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Maltese claims extraordinary discovery in Sahara desert
Independent Online ^ | Saturday, December 29, 2007 | unattributed

Posted on 12/29/2007 8:01:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv

Mark Borda and Mahmoud Marai, from Malta and Egypt respectively, were surveying a field of boulders on the flanks of a hill deep in the Libyan desert some 700 kilometres west of the Nile Valley when engravings on a large rock consisting of hieroglyphic writing, Pharaonic cartouche, an image of the king and other Pharaonic iconography came into view. Mr Borda would not reveal the precise location in order to protect the site... "The consensus among Egyptologists is that the Egyptians did not penetrate this desert any further than the area around Djedefre's Water Mountain. This is a sandstone hill about 80 kilometres south west of the Dakhla Oasis that contains hieroglyphic inscriptions. Its discovery in 2003 by the German explorer Carlo Bergmann caused a sensation as it extended the activities of the Pharaonic administrations an unprecedented 80 kilometres further out into the unknown and waterless Western Desert. The find we just made is some 650 kilometres further on!! Egyptologists will be dumbstruck by this news." ...Maltese Egyptologist Aloisia De Trafford from the Institute of Archaeology (University College London)... facilitated a preliminary decipherment of the text via Joe Clayton, an ancient languages specialist who lectures on hieroglyphic writing at Birkbeck College at the same university... "It turns out that the script we found states the name of the region where it was carved, which is none other than the fabled land of Yam, one of the most famous and mysterious nations that the Egyptians had traded with in Old Kingdom times; a source of precious tropical woods and ivory. Its location has been debated by Egyptologists for over 150 years but it was never imagined it could be 700 kilometres west of the Nile in the middle of the Sahara desert."

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1 posted on 12/29/2007 8:01:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

le kewl!


2 posted on 12/29/2007 8:03:24 PM PST by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Interesting, thanks for the post!


3 posted on 12/29/2007 8:03:42 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Falcon, perhaps?


4 posted on 12/29/2007 8:06:34 PM PST by doc1019 (Rabbit and the Hare … Fred ‘08)
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Posted on 12/10/2007 12:55:02 AM EST by SunkenCiv
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and probably of interest, though not very related:

http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a9cbf7f2a98.htm#11


5 posted on 12/29/2007 8:10:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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To: doc1019

Couldn’t be a snowman, so... ;’)


6 posted on 12/29/2007 8:10:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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To: ken21; Inyo-Mono

thanks!


7 posted on 12/29/2007 8:11:33 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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8 posted on 12/29/2007 8:12:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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To: SunkenCiv

LOL! Another Bogart aficionado. ;-)


9 posted on 12/29/2007 8:14:17 PM PST by doc1019 (Rabbit and the Hare … Fred ‘08)
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To: doc1019

BUMP!


10 posted on 12/29/2007 10:52:13 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wow, neat !!!


11 posted on 12/30/2007 7:32:13 AM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Dustbunny

It’ll be interesting to see what the age of the inscription turns out to be. Seems to me that “Yam” must have been quite a while ago, but of course, Herodotus fl. about 2500 years ago, and fragments of Lake Tritonis were still around then.


12 posted on 12/30/2007 9:08:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 23, 2007)
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To: SunkenCiv

It sure will be interesting. Thanks for posting.


13 posted on 12/30/2007 9:35:30 PM PST by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: SunkenCiv

bttt


14 posted on 12/30/2007 9:37:25 PM PST by southland (Fred Thompson/ John Bolton /08)
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To: SunkenCiv

FRom Omar (Popeye) Khayam: I yam where I yam.


15 posted on 12/31/2007 10:01:29 AM PST by wildbill
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To: wildbill; The Spirit Of Allegiance

[eye roll]

Okay, let’s get a ruling on this...


16 posted on 12/31/2007 1:05:16 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: SunkenCiv

What are the climate change implications? Surely this was a habitable place with water and vegetation several millenniums ago if it was a major trade center.

Did the Egyptians drive SUV chariots?


17 posted on 12/31/2007 1:14:49 PM PST by Rb ver. 2.0 (Global warming is the new Marxism.)
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To: SunkenCiv; Rennes Templar; LexBaird; mikrofon; martin_fierro; lowbridge; trooprally; ...
This narrative started out with me thinking it was the set-up for a groaner...a shaggy dog...a Sister Rosetta Stoner.

"Egyptologists will be dumbstruck"

Stuned? Runed? Duned? Not a word yet from the ancient Egyptians either, guess they're keeping Mum my my.

Dude, there is no Sandy Claus.






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18 posted on 12/31/2007 1:21:56 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Happy New Year my friend.


19 posted on 12/31/2007 1:24:51 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: SunkenCiv
the fabled land of Yam


20 posted on 12/31/2007 1:25:15 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: SunkenCiv
National costume


21 posted on 12/31/2007 1:26:45 PM PST by Revolting cat! (We all need someone we can bleed on...)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

The Sahara took a while to dry out. Years ago, National Geographic visited the geographic center (figures) of the desert, way west of this Yam thing, and took (and published) a photo of *an olive tree* that was still living there, and probably thousands of years old. :’)


22 posted on 12/31/2007 1:27:51 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
which is none other than the fabled land of Yam

Lost to the sands of time?

23 posted on 12/31/2007 1:27:57 PM PST by SIDENET (Hubba Hubba...)
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To: Revolting cat!

I can’t say that it’s a half-baked idea...


24 posted on 12/31/2007 1:28:36 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: doc1019
Falcon, perhaps?

Well, that didn't take long.

I wanted to add "Help me, Rick!!", but that's that other Bogart movie.

TS



(x, why?)

25 posted on 12/31/2007 1:29:05 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose panda hippo gnu deer)
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To: Enterprise

Ditto that, my FRiend!


26 posted on 12/31/2007 1:30:37 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: SunkenCiv
which is none other than the fabled land of Yam, one of the most famous and mysterious nations that the Egyptians had traded with in Old Kingdom times;

And once a year they celebrate Yad Yam, which I guess would be the last day of the fifth month, instead of the first.

27 posted on 12/31/2007 1:30:57 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose panda hippo gnu deer)
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To: Tanniker Smith

“that other Bogart movie”

You’re referring to the Shakey’s Falcon?


28 posted on 12/31/2007 1:32:58 PM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: Rb ver. 2.0
Did the Egyptians drive SUV chariots?

No, they walked ... like Egyptians [did]

29 posted on 12/31/2007 1:37:05 PM PST by mikrofon (New Year's Greetings)
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To: SunkenCiv
In related news. Archaeologist discover the legendary home of Popeye...

The Sailor's cryptic remarks are finally understood. "I Yam what I Yam and that’s all that I Yam"...

30 posted on 12/31/2007 1:38:13 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: Revolting cat!

That’s no yam, it’s a sweet tater.


31 posted on 12/31/2007 1:39:46 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: mikrofon

The Egyptian Ministry of Funny Walks skipped the opportunity to remark on the find.


32 posted on 12/31/2007 1:41:50 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: TASMANIANRED

:’)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1945804/posts?page=15#15


33 posted on 12/31/2007 1:44:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: Dustbunny; doc1019; Enterprise; Inyo-Mono; ken21; mikrofon; Publius6961; Rb ver. 2.0; ...

Happy New Year Dustbunny, doc1019, Enterprise, Inyo-Mono, ken21, mikrofon, Publius6961, Rb ver. 2.0, Revolting cat!, SIDENET, southland, TASMANIANRED;Tanniker Smith, The Spirit Of Allegiance, and wildbill. I hope 2008 is great for all of you and yours.


34 posted on 12/31/2007 1:47:43 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thank you. Happy New Year and God bless you and your family and friends.


35 posted on 12/31/2007 1:57:47 PM PST by Enterprise (Those who "betray us" also "Betray U.S." They're called DEMOCRATS!)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Heh - those have me so twisted up, I’ll have to see my Cairo-practor...


36 posted on 12/31/2007 2:00:46 PM PST by Hegemony Cricket (Although most dead people vote democrat, aborted babies, if given the choice, would vote Republican.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks for the post. Very interesting.


37 posted on 12/31/2007 2:01:23 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SunkenCiv
Stories like this need PHOTOS
38 posted on 12/31/2007 2:37:43 PM PST by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: SunkenCiv

I saw that after I posted. You beat me to it.


39 posted on 12/31/2007 3:11:45 PM PST by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: devolve; The Spirit Of Allegiance; SunkenCiv; ntnychik; dixiechick2000; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP
I    YAM   HENRY    THE    8TH   I    YAM



40 posted on 12/31/2007 3:21:22 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

Yam straight this is hugh. I think they deciphered some of the letters and they made out Corriganankhamun who was notorious for never asking for directions.


41 posted on 12/31/2007 3:39:30 PM PST by I Drive Too Fast
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance

I think we could start a pyramid scheme for punners. I know the pharoah, having a terrible nightmare, woke up, screaming, “I want my mummy!” When the Sahara dried up, they were getting their just deserts. Of course, the Egyptians were prone to gambling, they liked to play pharoah. They may have been in a state of de nile, about their gambling. Then again, they could have taken a river cruise, a senile tour. They actually had a form of radio, and the news commentator was a talking dog, who was a star. An that is really sirius.


42 posted on 12/31/2007 3:55:57 PM PST by punster
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To: potlatch

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Thanks for the Egyptian Pingeroo!

“M” will get a kick out of this

I guess they clearcut the forests like John Edwards (private 18-hole golf course and tennis courts, indoor swimming pool, indoor full basketball court, and the rest of his 30,000 square foot moansion on hundreds of formally “pristine” C woodlands), burned energy at a rate of 30 average homes (algore’s Tennessee mansion), and used water and fuel like John Kerry (9 mansions [with 7 “tax-exempt foundation” vehicles each!] here and abroad plus 2 exec jets, 3 luxury yachts/boats, and a “NIMBY” wind power free Cape Cod view!)

Good graphic potlatch!


43 posted on 12/31/2007 4:08:52 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve

No pictures at the site. I’ve never heard of ‘the fabled land of Yam’ before.

Strangely - to me - sandstone sounds somewhat like limestone. I would think of it as being soft and amazed that it would preserve hieroglyphics after all this time.


44 posted on 12/31/2007 4:18:31 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: potlatch

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Shifting desert sands cover and protect many remains of huge dinosaurs in the African deserts

They may have discovered the fabled ancient Land Of Sweet Potato Pie

Tut Tut Tut!


45 posted on 12/31/2007 4:25:32 PM PST by devolve (---- - Hey Boone! - My bonus check is late again! -)
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To: devolve

Yes I know dry sand can preserve things, look at all that has been buried in the sands of Iraq.

But we talk of ‘shifting sands’ and I’m still amazed they are preserved.

et tu tut tut, heh.


46 posted on 12/31/2007 4:32:16 PM PST by potlatch ("Life may not be the party we hoped for, but while we're here we might as well dance!")
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To: SunkenCiv

Happy New year to you too! Put me on your ping list if you have one.


47 posted on 12/31/2007 6:10:39 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Tanniker Smith
I wanted to add "Help me, Rick!!", but that's that other Bogart movie.

Perhaps this quote:

Captain Renault: What in heaven's name brought you to Yam?
Rick: My health. I came to Yam for the waters.
Captain Renault: The waters? What waters? We're in the desert.
Rick: I was misinformed.

48 posted on 12/31/2007 6:32:22 PM PST by LexBaird (Behold, thou hast drinken of the Aide of Kool, and are lost unto Men.)
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To: LexBaird
Desert would be "I yam who yam" . . .

nah.... that might be going a little too far . . .

49 posted on 12/31/2007 6:49:04 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (wee fish ewe a mare egrets moose panda hippo gnu deer)
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To: Inyo-Mono

I had been thinking of starting one... yeah, a ping list... I’ll make that my New Year’s resolution.


50 posted on 12/31/2007 10:02:09 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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