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Police Find Hiker's Blood-Stained Clothes, IDs
WSBTV.com, Action News 2, Atlanta ^ | 1/05/2008 | WSBTV

Posted on 01/06/2008 6:32:45 AM PST by Scoutmaster

Police believe missing hiker Meredith Emerson is dead after finding her blood-soaked clothing Saturday in a dumpster.

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The police also found Meredith Emerson's wallet, driver's license, college ID, and part of a blood-stained seat belt in a dumpster outside a QuikTrip convenience store in Cumming, Georgia. When police found Hilton and his van, part of one of the seat belts was missing.

Surveillance video and additional evidence puts Hilton at that QuikTrip.

According to the arrest warrant, Hilton was washing out his van with a bleach and water solution when taken into custody.

Sadly, it appears that Meredith Emerson is dead.

Wonder if the police also found the yellow coat Hilton was wearing when seen with Emerson? And, if so, if they can tie the coat to the missing hiker from last October, or the video of a man using the hiker's ATM card.

1 posted on 01/06/2008 6:32:49 AM PST by Scoutmaster
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To: Scoutmaster

The AT is one refuge for solitude i look forward to...and now crazies are running loose there....it’s hard to keep your spirits up in this world....this really gets me down....i seel so sorry for her family....i need to get the thoughts out of my head of what i would do to Mr. Hilton...it’s not healthy.


2 posted on 01/06/2008 6:40:20 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Scoutmaster

Horrible.


3 posted on 01/06/2008 6:40:33 AM PST by forkinsocket
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To: chasio649

Hilton is also now a person of interest in the death of an elderly woman and the disappearance of her husband in a wilderness hiking area in Upstate South Carolina last fall.

The AT has had it’s share of ghastly crimes over the years.
I guess solitude also draws the deranged.


4 posted on 01/06/2008 7:01:24 AM PST by buckalfa
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To: buckalfa

I think it was North Carolina....Pisgah National Forest....i admit to meeting some strange folks on the trail but i never thought they were dangerous...i’m sure this girl also thought this man was harmless.


5 posted on 01/06/2008 7:03:56 AM PST by chasio649
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To: chasio649

If he looks his age(61,) then I can definitely see someone not thinking a man is as dangerous.

Sadly, this is what happens when serial killers get old. They don’t get better (and I feel this guy is a serial killer) they just keep killing. If they get older and less strong and stand out in a crowd more, they will simply go for the weakest possible targets—kids.

This kind of thing happening will not stop. The ones who feel most compelled to act on these evil impulses or hate are the ones least likely to stop killing. The only thing we can do is manage our risk and be prepared. That means being armed at almost all times, ESPECIALLY, as a hiker on your own.

Better that we all become armed and aware, rather than unarmed and paranoid about every person who approaches you.


6 posted on 01/06/2008 7:15:16 AM PST by Skywalk (Transdimensional Jihad!)
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To: chasio649
I think it was North Carolina....Pisgah National Forest....i admit to meeting some strange folks on the trail but i never thought they were dangerous...i’m sure this girl also thought this man was harmless.

People on vacation let down their guard.

7 posted on 01/06/2008 7:17:04 AM PST by Paleo Conservative (I'm not celebrating Kwanza!)
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To: chasio649
The AT is one refuge for solitude i look forward to.

If Meredith was, indeed, murdered, I think this would be murder number ten on the AT since 1974 (three double slayings and four individuals). To my knowledge, no AT murders from 1923 through 1973.

I think the AT is particularly vulnerable because of how often it passes through or comes close to civilization. Access to the trail is relatively easy for those who intend to do wrong. The shelters are known places to find hikers. Also, so many through-hikers have a few places where they hike or hitchhike into town for a shower, mail, fresh food, and other luxuries. A hiker seen in town may be followed back to the trail.

As to your thoughts about Hilton, I understand them completely. My thoughts about what should be done to him aren't healthy either.

8 posted on 01/06/2008 7:19:00 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Skywalk

A nice little S&W Model 60 in .38 Special works for me.


9 posted on 01/06/2008 7:19:26 AM PST by Flintlock
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To: Skywalk

Sad to think that in these beautiful places - where we go to get away to nature - we can be in danger from such a freak. I used to feel the only danger was a misunderstanding with a bear.

We hike armed now, have for some time. Where we can my dog comes with us also. I guess we’ve come full circle. Our forefathers hiked armed too - for entirely different reasons.

I used to let my kids loose in the woods for backpacking trips and camping trips on their own. My grandchildren will not have that experience until they are old enough to have good judgment with weapons. Not a change I am happy to see.


10 posted on 01/06/2008 7:21:30 AM PST by Roses0508
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To: Skywalk

I can’t think of a park I’ve ever been to that I would want my daughter or son to be in by themselves.
Long record for the perp, no doubt he should have been incarcerated. You can probably thank ACLU/liberal judges for that one. In our county the largest expense, after public schools, is jailing criminals and only a small percentage of them actually have to do time.


11 posted on 01/06/2008 7:30:31 AM PST by blueheron2 (Hoist the colors!)
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To: Scoutmaster

Most thru-hikers will tell you to don’t camp close to roads...may sound strange to some but i agree with it.


12 posted on 01/06/2008 7:39:28 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Roses0508

Ger dog was a lab mix, I’m assuming from this labs aren’t very protective.


13 posted on 01/06/2008 7:39:46 AM PST by blueheron2 (Hoist the colors!)
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To: blueheron2

I think Hilton had a dog too.


14 posted on 01/06/2008 7:40:25 AM PST by chasio649
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To: blueheron2

Ger=Her


15 posted on 01/06/2008 7:40:30 AM PST by blueheron2 (Hoist the colors!)
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To: Scoutmaster

One look at the alleged perp, and you say to yourself, “Why do these micreants all bear such an uncanny resembleance to each other?” The answer, of course, is, “Because they are almost invaribly drunks, derelicts, or druggies” (almost invariably with a list of arrests a mile long).

Then — unless you’re a bleeding heart liberal — the inevitable next question is, “Well, if that’s the case, why don’t the authorities do something to keep closer tabs on these drunks, derelicts, and druggies?” And the horrifying answer to that question is that thanks to folks like the ACLU, drunks, derelicts, and druggies in the United States are now a protected class.

Should you have any trouble believing that, check out the appalling number of programs especially designed to provide your tax money to these upstanding members of the Welfare Vulture Culture.

By the way, did you know that your government now has a program to provide drunks with $600 cash a month — if they come in each month and prove they’re still stewed to the gills? You can’t make this stuff up.


16 posted on 01/06/2008 7:44:44 AM PST by lapster
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To: Scoutmaster

That miserable scumbag. Give him to her Dad. This is playing out uncomfortably close to my home. I know that gas station and car wash. My daughter drives in that area as well.


17 posted on 01/06/2008 7:47:40 AM PST by doodad
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To: lapster

all bear such an uncanny resembleance


I don’t disagree with anything you say...but most thru- hikers look like derelicts after 6 months on the trail...it’s a running joke...it’s amazing to see the difference when they finish the trail and get cleaned up.


18 posted on 01/06/2008 7:48:05 AM PST by chasio649
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To: Scoutmaster

How very sad. Shoot the perp then hang him.


19 posted on 01/06/2008 7:53:38 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Scoutmaster

I’m so sorry to hear this. The poor young lady.


20 posted on 01/06/2008 7:54:21 AM PST by Tax-chick ("The keys to life are running and reading." ~ Will Smith)
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To: Roses0508
Our forefathers hiked armed too - for entirely different reasons.

Wackos like this are just as dangerous as any Indian that Daniel Boone might have encountered while passing through the Cumberland Gap or Jedidiah Smith might have run into while exploring the Rockies. Unfortunately, most of these wackos look like the guy next door, making it a might bit difficult to discern friend from foe.

I like to go hiking, but I have started carrying a pistol with me whenever possible. There are too many meth labs popping up out in the woods in my area and too many cases of rabid animals for me to go traipsing through the woods without adequate protection.

21 posted on 01/06/2008 7:55:02 AM PST by Stonewall Jackson (The Hunt for FRed November. 11/04/08)
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To: blueheron2
Ger dog was a lab mix, I’m assuming from this labs aren’t very protective.

?

Maybe a better assumption would be that labs aren't omnipotent.

22 posted on 01/06/2008 7:58:38 AM PST by pax_et_bonum (That midget hates it when I do that.)
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To: blueheron2
Ger dog was a lab mix, I’m assuming from this labs aren’t very protective.

Most Labs are almost as worthless for defense as Golden Retrievers. They are friendly, indiscriminately affectionate, and not very brave.

23 posted on 01/06/2008 7:59:37 AM PST by hellbender
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To: chasio649
Most thru-hikers will tell you to don’t camp close to roads...may sound strange to some but i agree with it.

I've heard the same -- both because of the danger and the desire for solitude. Thru-hikers may not want to handle all of the questions and bonhomie from weekend hikers who are in the shelters.

However, aren't you allegedly 'required' to sleep in shelters rather than along the trail?

24 posted on 01/06/2008 8:00:45 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: chasio649
I think Hilton had a dog too.

Hilton did indeed. Meredith and Hilton were observed letting their dogs play together -- it may be how he approached her, like Ted Bundy and his fake cast.

The dog also played a role in Hilton's identification. At least one of the hikers who saw Meredith and Hilton together described the dogs and remembered the name of Hilton's dog. Once the description of the man and dog, and the dog's name, were announced, tipsters quickly gave police Hilton's name.

25 posted on 01/06/2008 8:04:08 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Scoutmaster
Have any of the AT murder victims not been female? I think it is very dangerous for a woman to be on the trail alone. Another factor is that a hiker inside a sleeping bag in a small tent , esp. when actually asleep, is extremely vulnerable. It's almost like already being tied up inside a cage.
26 posted on 01/06/2008 8:04:42 AM PST by hellbender
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However, aren't you allegedly 'required' to sleep in shelters rather than along the trail?

No not at all. I have never stayed in them except one time when they built the new loft models. Many reasons, but mice being one of them. Also, we always liked to get off the trail and have a sense of solitude and/or better views. I have met some real wierdos out in the woods. Another reason to stay off trail and out of sight.

27 posted on 01/06/2008 8:08:05 AM PST by doodad
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To: chasio649

“The AT is one refuge for solitude i look forward to...and now crazies are running loose there....it’s hard to keep your spirits up in this world....this really gets me down....i seel so sorry for her family....i need to get the thoughts out of my head of what i would do to Mr. Hilton...it’s not healthy.”

Back in the 80’s and 90’s my friends and I used to hike a portion of the trail every month. Hikers were being killed, raped and robbed even back then. I always carried a Charter Arms .38 in my pocket just in case.

Another factor is stupidity. I used to hike with some Sierra Club people and they were totally clueless about the back woods of Tennessee and Georgia being mostly from NYC and LA but they thought they knew everything. I had a hell of a time one day convincing them that they didn’t want to go down a certain trail in the Cherokee National Forest that was being guarded by a “Deputy Sheriff” with a .357 on his hip. The lawyers in the group wanted to argue with him and I just couldn’t come out and tell them that he was guarding a pot crop. Dumbasses.


28 posted on 01/06/2008 8:12:49 AM PST by dljordan
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No...you don’t have to sleep in shelters...except for the Smokey Mountain part of the trail....I don’t like to sleep in shelters myself...too many mice and it’s warmer in a tent anyways...the best advice i have is be aware of your surroundings but it is hard to do when you have been hiking all day and negotiating rocks and roots....really the best advice is don’t go alone...always hike with a partner for many good reasons.


29 posted on 01/06/2008 8:13:51 AM PST by chasio649
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To: chasio649; buckalfa
I think it was North Carolina....Pisgah National Forest.

If you are thinking of John and Irene Bryant, the elderly Colorado couple who disappeared in late October, then you're correct. It was the Pisgah National Forest in North Carolina, about 150-170 miles north of Vogel State Park. Vogel is the area of the AT where Meredith disappeared.

The body of Irene Bryant was found three weeks later. She had been beaten to death. John Bryant is still missing.

From Pisgah, the story headed to Ducktown, Tennessee, about an hour from Vogel. A surveillance tape captured images of a man in a yellow coat using the Bryant's ATM card. The yellow coat is thought to have belonged to John Bryant.

At the beginning of the search for Meredith, it was reported she was last seen with a man and a second dog - and the man was wearing a yellow coat.

The Bryants:

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Meredith Emerson:

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30 posted on 01/06/2008 8:16:14 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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OH NO!!

This is my territory down here and when they found that guy cleaning out his van I knew it wasn’t good. He had rolls and rolls of paper towels in his windshield area as if he were washing out with paper towels. And her dog was found 50 miles from where she went missing. I bet the guy didn’t expect the dog to have a microchip implant.

So sad, but I was afraid of this from the start. Her friends said she was a bluebelt in martial arts and she probably felt a false sense of security hiking alone on BLOOD MOUNTAIN.


31 posted on 01/06/2008 8:19:15 AM PST by Southerngl
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To: Scoutmaster

Honestly...i hope he did both murders.


32 posted on 01/06/2008 8:19:24 AM PST by chasio649
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To: chasio649
I learned an interesting lesson as a young adult when I was out camping in the woods with a couple of friends and came across someone on the trail who just "wasn't right" (without knowing exactly what his story was). He turned out to be a very nice guy, but we never felt safe around him and were glad to see him go off on his way.

When we talked about later one of my friends asked me why the guy seemed so excessively nice to us.

"Just look at us," I said (we had been in the woods for three days without a shower, shave, or anything of the sort -- and some of us include various and sundry military equipment in our hiking/camping gear) . . . "That strange dude is probably a serial killer, but one look at us and he could barely keep from crapping in his pants."

My rule of thumb in the outdoors is to make sure the group I'm with looks almost like something out of a Mad Max movie. The best defense in a situation like that is an aura of borderline derangement.

33 posted on 01/06/2008 8:24:11 AM PST by Alberta's Child (I'm out on the outskirts of nowhere . . . with ghosts on my trail, chasing me there.)
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To: Scoutmaster

I also wonder about the missing teacher from south Georgia. I can’t recall her name, but she was from Ocilla, or the Tifton area. Went missing about a year ago without a trace.


34 posted on 01/06/2008 8:26:36 AM PST by devane617 (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.)
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To: blueheron2
...dog was a lab mix, I’m assuming from this labs aren’t very protective.

My labs will bark & growl at strangers, but have never bitten.

If I interact peacefully with the stranger, they calm down.

I suspect this guy interacted with her long enough for her dog to treat him as a "friend", since they were seen talking together. Then, when there were no witnesses he did her in.

She should have been carrying...

35 posted on 01/06/2008 8:28:15 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: Scoutmaster

Meredith Emerson should have taken an NRA Refuse to be a Victim course.

One is taught to carry OC Pepper Spray.


36 posted on 01/06/2008 8:29:07 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (you shall know that I, YHvH, your Savior, and your Redeemer, am the Elohim of Ya'aqob. Isaiah 60:16)
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To: Scoutmaster

Thank you for the clarification.


37 posted on 01/06/2008 8:29:59 AM PST by buckalfa
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To: hellbender
Have any of the AT murder victims not been female?

Yes. Three men. The murders:


38 posted on 01/06/2008 8:32:59 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: CurlyDave

She should have been carrying and she should have had a dog like my last two German Shepherds. They thought they invented “trust but verify.”
I told my daughter’s boyfriend not to move but he thought he knew more about dogs than he did.


39 posted on 01/06/2008 8:35:50 AM PST by blueheron2 (Hoist the colors!)
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To: lapster

It seems to me that there have been other missing persons or deaths in that area associated with the stranger in the yellow coat.

Wonder what the take would be if they began finding those drunks, druggies and derelicts along the AT? Human nature being what it is, I’m surprised that there isnt a citizen uprising in that area.


40 posted on 01/06/2008 8:41:57 AM PST by Concho (IRS--Americas real terrorist organization.)
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To: chasio649; doodad

Thanks for the clarification.


41 posted on 01/06/2008 8:43:53 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: blueheron2

We had a lab who lived to the ripe old age of 15.
If he was on the deck and someone came into the front door..so long, farewell.

If someone came thru the garage (his domain) he’d show teeth.

He grew more protective as he aged At the age of 1 the world was his friend.


42 posted on 01/06/2008 8:46:24 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights (Durham, where bottom feeders go to die.)
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To: Alberta's Child
Sad news about Ms Emerson but...

Your post really described me and my friends. Any nut case that runs into us would be standing straight, eyeballs spinning and looking for an escape route.

Same mixed military gear and boots, look like a bunch of pirates when we don’t shave and by the looks of us - somebody, if not all, have some type of weapon. And about half are Good ‘ol Boys so we have that problem covered also.

43 posted on 01/06/2008 8:56:43 AM PST by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: devane617
"I also wonder about the missing teacher from south Georgia. I can’t recall her name, but she was from Ocilla, or the Tifton area. Went missing about a year ago without a trace."

Tara Grinstead of Ocilla. Missing since October 2005. More here, here, and here.

44 posted on 01/06/2008 9:04:19 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Concho

Unfortunately, in American society today, drunks, derelicts, and druggies have become the citizens of choice for many, many state and local governments. They bring in federal funds (food, housing, medical care, and they employ lots of fat-butted social workers. All at taxpayer expense, of course. So, the local governments make believe there’s nothing they can do about them (even to the point of refusing to enforce loitering laws). And the politicians and their protected vermin live happily ever after. While we foot the bills and suffer the crimes and degradation of our homes. Pretty sich, huh?


45 posted on 01/06/2008 9:12:03 AM PST by lapster
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To: Scoutmaster

In Tara Grinstead’s case, she had a tumultuous relationship with a former boyfriend, and a former student from her school who was essentially stalking her. The 20-year old former student was arrested for banging repeatedly on her door about six months before she disappeared. The relationship with her former boyfriend had her taking long drives and calling in sick because of the emotional stress.


46 posted on 01/06/2008 9:15:46 AM PST by Scoutmaster (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.)
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To: Scoutmaster
My wife and I hike a lot in the area where the Bryants were murdered. There are an awfully lot of remote places out there where skulduggery would be extremely easy. Also, there are Wiccans, Satanists and druggies who hang around in these woods for their own various reasons - none of them wholesome. We completely avoid the area in the days around Halloween (we have seen clear evidence of rites).

I am always "visibly" armed and careful of anybody I meet out there. There is no sense calling 911 when out there (just ask the Bryants, who tried). Most people you run into are good people but one never knows when or where you will meet a bad one and they may not appear "threatening" (although the one time my alarm bells got working really overtime, they certainly were).

The woods may be a place for solitude but it is not a place where you want to let your guard down, either.

47 posted on 01/06/2008 9:18:21 AM PST by Gritty (It's never a good idea to put reality up for grabs. There may come a time when you need it.-Mk Steyn)
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To: Scoutmaster

Yep, that’s her...I read you post below, but you never know. I am certain it is being looked at...


48 posted on 01/06/2008 10:04:12 AM PST by devane617 (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.)
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To: lapster

“By the way, did you know that your government now has a program to provide drunks with $600 cash a month — if they come in each month and prove they’re still stewed to the gills?”

What are you talking about? Please fill me in.


49 posted on 01/06/2008 10:06:27 AM PST by EEDUDE
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To: Southerngl

Speaking of “my territory”, it creeps me out that they found her clothes and wallet at the Quiktrip that is practically across the street from me.


50 posted on 01/06/2008 10:11:01 AM PST by Sender (Feel like, I feel like a poke chop san'wich)
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