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Buckeyhes and BCS: Third Times the Harm
ESPN ^ | 1.8.08 | By Pat Forde

Posted on 01/08/2008 7:50:51 AM PST by meandog

NEW ORLEANS -- With the 2007 football season complete, here's the game plan for 2008:

Jim Tressel's Ohio State team has lost back-to-back games for the BCS national championship.

We need border patrols along Interstate 10, from Jacksonville to Pensacola. A Coast Guard blockade at Biscayne Bay. And the FAA should redirect all inbound flights to South Florida from Ohio.

If you see a silver helmet and a sweater vest coming, contact authorities.

Because next year's BCS National Championship Game will be played in Miami, and the Ohio State Buckeyes aren't invited. Especially if the Southeastern Conference champion is invited.

If you've ever seen lions maul a water buffalo, you've seen the last two title games. You've seen a fierce pair of SEC teams -- Florida last year, LSU this year -- blow the vulnerable Buckeyes back to the Bratwurst Belt by a combined 41 points. You've seen the best of one league flex, and the best of an inferior league collapse

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"She" Ohio State University!
1 posted on 01/08/2008 7:50:52 AM PST by meandog
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To: meandog

How ‘bout that SEC football


2 posted on 01/08/2008 7:51:53 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: meandog

The “O” stands for OVER rated. The record of Big 10 teams against SEC is what? 0 for 9 tries since the BCS inception?


3 posted on 01/08/2008 7:52:16 AM PST by MoMagic
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To: meandog

LMAO! Ohio State - The Bitches of the SEC!


4 posted on 01/08/2008 7:53:43 AM PST by cweese (Hook 'em Horns!!!)
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To: meandog

USC would have beaten both teams.

Fight On.


5 posted on 01/08/2008 7:54:23 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: meandog

What IS it with the BCS poobahs that they simple HAVE to have Ohio State in the championship game if at all possible?


6 posted on 01/08/2008 7:54:41 AM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: stainlessbanner
How ‘bout that SEC football

Under appreciated to say the least. These boys know how to play football. I wonder when the pundits are going to get it? The SEC as been whoopin' a$$ for a long time.

7 posted on 01/08/2008 7:55:58 AM PST by Banjoguy (The stench that surrounds us, emanates from Washington, D.C.)
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To: meandog
Mississippi State could've beaten Ohio State last night.

P.S. My "Mutt the Hoople" is a play on words because I'm a Mississippi State fan.

8 posted on 01/08/2008 7:56:06 AM PST by MuttTheHoople
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To: meandog; Constitution Day

Buckeyhes????

This is hugh and series. Scarmable.


9 posted on 01/08/2008 7:56:33 AM PST by NeoCaveman (She's Ed Muskie in a pantsuit - Mike Murphy on Missus Clinton)
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To: stainlessbanner

The reason Ohio State keeps getting into the Championship game is they play in the Big 10. Their Non-Conference schedule are usually cup cakes and the Big 10 is the most overrated conference in the country. LSU cleaned Ohio States clock and USC creamed the only team to have beat them in conference play (Illinois). It’s true Michigan beat FL, but that was an emotional game saying goodbye to Coach Carr when they played over their head.


10 posted on 01/08/2008 7:56:48 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: NeoCaveman
Hammer time

11 posted on 01/08/2008 7:57:05 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: edcoil

If USC had not lost their QB for a few games they would have run the table. Their D was great and their running backs are friggen scary.


12 posted on 01/08/2008 7:58:03 AM PST by misterrob
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To: edcoil

You’re on crack.


13 posted on 01/08/2008 7:58:33 AM PST by Montana4Jesus
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To: meandog

Hey, at least they’re good at proving who the real national champion is. Be careful of what you wish for. If you don’t have a Big 10 team around to schedule as a Designated Victory in a bowl game, you might actually have to play somebody who could beat you.


14 posted on 01/08/2008 7:58:37 AM PST by chimera
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To: edcoil

I beg to differ. I believe USC would not even have done as well as OSU last night. LSU is not Stanford or Illinois.


16 posted on 01/08/2008 7:59:35 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: NeoCaveman

17 posted on 01/08/2008 7:59:48 AM PST by Constitution Day (Get over yourselves!)
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To: misterrob

I believe you are correct. They have by far the deepest talent of any team in the country. Expect them to be right there again next year.


18 posted on 01/08/2008 8:02:02 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: meandog
As an Ohio State fan, I can say we don’t care about your comments. As long as we beat Michigan, we have had a good season. Playing in the title game or Rose Bowl is just gravy—win or lose. So bite me.
19 posted on 01/08/2008 8:02:30 AM PST by johnandrhonda (have you hugged your banjo today?)
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To: Ingtar

I think Pete should call the LSU coach and have a scrimmage at a local high school to show you how wrong you are.

When SC is healthy, they beat everyone.


20 posted on 01/08/2008 8:03:25 AM PST by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

USC would not have beaten LSU, but would have beaten OSU.

Keep in mind that USC lost to Standford (the biggest lost against the point spread in NCAA history). USC beat Ill in the bowl BUT Ill was not ranked in the top twenty until they beat OSU, and had three loses prior to that.

USC beat Arizona State, but TEXAS beat Arizona State worse that USC did...Ball State had more total offensive yards against Nebraska than USC (as did six other teams agaisnt Nebraska).

In the end, we need a playoff system.


21 posted on 01/08/2008 8:03:30 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: edcoil

I agree there!


22 posted on 01/08/2008 8:03:45 AM PST by engrpat
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To: MoMagic
The “O” stands for OVER rated. The record of Big 10 teams against SEC is what? 0 for 9 tries since the BCS inception?

No the Big 10 is 8-8 in BCS bowl games, with at least one victory over an SEC team. I think the record is more like 1-3 in BSC bowl games.

23 posted on 01/08/2008 8:04:15 AM PST by Always Right
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To: johnandrhonda

Thats the attitude why you guys always lose the BIG ONE! So BITE THE BIG ONE BUCKEYE BOY! I am sick as a dog about the BCS now and this should make them take more concern on how this ends up... 4 team playoff is simple to do. It would eliminate a farce and give two top winners a final chance to go at it....

USC was the best team at years end... no doubt about it.


24 posted on 01/08/2008 8:05:54 AM PST by Republic Rocker
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To: Right Cal Gal

Well,
USC couldn’t beat those Nerds from Stanford.
WVU couldn’t beat the “I wish I was at Penn State” Pitt Panthers.
Missouri couldn’t beat OU going to lose in a BCS bowl again?
OU couldn’t beat some other glorified tech school who’s name escapes me.

And LSU is lucky all of the above happened as well.


25 posted on 01/08/2008 8:06:40 AM PST by Philly Nomad
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To: meandog
Buckeyes fans are fond of breaking into impromptu group spelling bees, shouting out "O-H-I-O." When an SEC team shows up on the other sideline it should be "O-H-N-O."

That's The OHNO State University!

26 posted on 01/08/2008 8:07:16 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: Republic Rocker
USC was the best team at years end... no doubt about it.

If you mean best, that would be reserved for LSU for doing what it needed to do. If you mean hottest, I think you'll find Georgia was playing the best ball over the last half of the season.

27 posted on 01/08/2008 8:08:15 AM PST by Ingtar (The LDS problem that Romney is facing is not his religion, but his recent Liberal Definitive Stands.)
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To: meandog

I bet clothing stores are going to have a run on the sweater vests worn by Jim Tressel. NOT!


28 posted on 01/08/2008 8:08:38 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: meandog

LSU vs. USC, now THAT would have been a game!


29 posted on 01/08/2008 8:08:39 AM PST by montag813
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To: stainlessbanner

How ‘bout them Hogs!


30 posted on 01/08/2008 8:08:57 AM PST by steve8714 (Build the fence, ship 'em out, legalize teen workers.)
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To: meandog

They should be lamenting that Missouri was the better choice for the BCS Championship. But big money runs the BCS. Mizzou never gets any credit, even on a record season..


31 posted on 01/08/2008 8:09:17 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: meandog

I almost fell out of my chair when the announcers were saying that this was a young Ohio State team and could be back in the title game next year. Please stop this insanity and implement a playoff system.


32 posted on 01/08/2008 8:09:31 AM PST by Armando Guerra
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To: stainlessbanner

Buckeye fan here, grats on the game last night.

The result is just about what I expected. Big-10 football has softened in the last few years. I get sick of watching the buckeyes play 3-4 easy cake teams a year to pump up the record. A lot of teams do this also but I don’t think a better record makes you a better team. I would much rather see the big games during the season to make the bucks better in the long run. They collapsed last night under the pressure.

See ya next year, even I hope it’s not in the championship game, big 10 wont be ready by then. I want to get back to the prestige of beating Mich to go to the Rose Bowl like it was meant to be.


33 posted on 01/08/2008 8:09:47 AM PST by Rezod21
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To: stainlessbanner

Perhaps they should just make the SEC championship the national championship. :-)


34 posted on 01/08/2008 8:09:47 AM PST by rattrap
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To: misterrob
If USC had not lost their QB for a few games they would have run the table

Amen to that. Sanchez looked clueless against Oregon. Booty would have given them the boot for sure.

35 posted on 01/08/2008 8:11:02 AM PST by montag813
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To: steve8714

How about a bowl game every 46 years!


36 posted on 01/08/2008 8:11:20 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Shame on Freepers who use the MSM to attack any Republican)
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To: meandog
If any other team won enough games, they too could play in the BCS title game like the Buckeyes and the Tigers.

But they didn't, did they?

Buckeyes were picked 3rd in the Big 10 this year, btw.

WVA and Missouri could have played in the title game, but they folded. Have to win games to get the title game, right?

AP's final rankings has OSU #5 in a rebuilding year. Not bad.

37 posted on 01/08/2008 8:11:31 AM PST by Bosco (Remember how you felt on September 11?)
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To: MoMagic
The record of Big 10 teams against SEC is what? 0 for 9 tries since the BCS inception?

You're thinking of the record of Ohio State against SEC teams in postseason play. The overall record of the Big 10 conference is poor but not a shutout. The 0-9 record of Ohio State goes back to the Woody-Bear matchup in the '78 Sugar Bowl (another blowout). Most of those losses came during the long, dreary John Cooper era. They'd lose to Michigan and wind up in a second-tier bowl like the Citrus against an SEC also-ran, and lose.

That said, because of these two consecutive championship losses, IMO the BCS is going to be disinclined to invite Ohio State to any BCS Bowl no matter what their record is next year.

38 posted on 01/08/2008 8:11:39 AM PST by chimera
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To: johnandrhonda

Denial is not just a river in Africa...

This sounds like the Chicago Bears, who seem to think beating the Green Bay Packers makes a season, or the Chicago Cubs versus the St. Louis Cardinals.

Given OSU’s nearly $30 million annual investment in the football program, certainly more should be expected...


39 posted on 01/08/2008 8:13:11 AM PST by astounded (The Democrat Party is a Clear and Present Danger to the USA)
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To: edcoil

My Jayhawks would have put up a better fight, or at least scored more points.


40 posted on 01/08/2008 8:13:13 AM PST by KC_Conspirator
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To: edcoil; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

I so wanted UGA to play the Calif USC. It would have done my heart good to see GA smoke USC’s butts.

Then the SEC would have blistered all corners of the rest of the NCAA.


41 posted on 01/08/2008 8:13:22 AM PST by SeeRushToldU_So (Tebow for Heisman! The SEC rules college football! Go Dawgs!)
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To: Philly Nomad

Heck, honey, I can’t talk - I went to Cal.
I’m starting to think the only way we’ll ever go to the Rose Bowl is to charter a bus and buy tickets....


42 posted on 01/08/2008 8:13:45 AM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: stainlessbanner

Man, this Gator was rootin’ for dem coonasses!


43 posted on 01/08/2008 8:14:23 AM PST by ExpatGator (Extending logic since 1961.)
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To: Armando Guerra

maybe they will pre-season rank us like 50th so by the end of the year we can work up to a Hawaii type ranking. My goal is back to the Rose Bowl :-). Easier to beat up on the Pac-10 haha.


44 posted on 01/08/2008 8:14:42 AM PST by Rezod21
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To: Ingtar
I beg to differ. I believe USC would not even have done as well as OSU last night. LSU is not Stanford or Illinois.

The loss to Stanford was a coaching problem, allowing your Quarterback to continue to play with a broken hand, and calling pass plays. As brilliant a Carroll is, he must have taken stupid pills that morning.

45 posted on 01/08/2008 8:15:08 AM PST by D Rider
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To: stainlessbanner
I am sick and tired of hearing about OSU and how the sun shines out of their butt, so I am happy that they lost for once....

Then again I am a die hard University of Wisconsin-Badger fan and we couldn't win our bowl game ;-{

46 posted on 01/08/2008 8:15:21 AM PST by Poetgal26 (God bless the US Military and our allies!)
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To: Banjoguy

Exactly, the SEC and Big 12 have a competitive level that can’t be touched by the Big-10 or the Pac-10. The ACC is on its way up. But for now, the SEC owns college football.


47 posted on 01/08/2008 8:16:11 AM PST by ChinaThreat (s)
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To: edcoil
Yeah,unhuh! My high school team would beat them all. Nothing wrong with having a fantasy. USC would have lost at least three games if they played in the SEC.
48 posted on 01/08/2008 8:16:15 AM PST by gunnedah
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To: Right Cal Gal
What IS it with the BCS poobahs that they simple HAVE to have Ohio State in the championship game if at all possible?

No, the rule is to have Notre Dame if at all possible. Given their recent record, they have to settle for the best available midwest team.

Of course, Ohio State is the only northern team to have won a BCS championship. (4 SEC wins, 2 (former) Southwest Conference wins, 2 (current) ACC wins, 1 PAC 10, and Ohio State)

Or, to put it another way, Confederates 8, Yankees 2.

49 posted on 01/08/2008 8:16:15 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Armando Guerra
I almost fell out of my chair when the announcers were saying that this was a young Ohio State team and could be back in the title game next year.

They are dead wrong. No matter what the record is for the Buckeyes next year, the BCS selection committee would have to have their collective heads examined to consider them for a title game slot. They're going to avoid them like the plague.

50 posted on 01/08/2008 8:16:15 AM PST by chimera
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