Skip to comments.Are You an Alcoholic?
Posted on 01/08/2008 7:59:30 AM PST by shrinkermd
More than 30% of Americans engage in risky drinking at some point in their lives...
...Researchers have made up dozens of screening tests over the years. According to one developed for Johns Hopkins University Hospital years ago that still pops up on the Web, I'm "definitely an alcoholic" because I answered yes to at least three of 20 questions...
But Alcoholscreening.org3 says I'm "below the range usually associated with harmful drinking or alcoholism" since I have only a glass or two of wine when I drink.
The authoritative American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, or DSM-IV, separates alcohol abuse from alcohol dependence, based partly on the problems the drinking causes. You qualify for a diagnosis of "abuse" if you've done any one of these in the past year: drunk alcohol in hazardous situations, like driving; kept drinking despite social or interpersonal problems; had legal problems related to alcohol or failed to fulfill major obligations at work, school or home because of drinking.
You've moved on to "dependence" if you've done any three of these seven: drunk more or longer than you intended; been unable to cut down or stop; needed more alcohol to get the same effect; had withdrawal symptoms without it; spent more time drinking or recovering; neglected other activities or continued to drink despite psychological or physical problems.
...Too much, too fast means consuming more than four drinks in two hours for men, and more than three in two hours for women. That's a level that, on average, makes people legally drunk and impairs brain function. (A standard U.S. drink, by the way, is 12 oz. of beer, 5 oz. of wine or a 1.5 oz. shot of 80 proof spirits, according to government agencies.)
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I do note something I dislike. That is, taking the adjective "alcoholic" and making it a noun. A person suffers from "alcoholism." A person is not a diagnosis. More than anything else, imprecise use of language perpetuates pejorative stereotypes that are not only not helpful but detrimental to the understanding and early recognition of alcohol dependence.
Drink a couple Scotches and repeat as needed. :-)
Its a question of degree....
No, but I will be after this election is over...
Nothing like a little rationalization to keep one going.
I remember taking a similar test in college (MIT) with various members of the house I was living in.
One of the questions was “do you sometimes hang around with that drinks too much.” We responded “we ARE the crowd that drinks too much. . . “
I think there is a college dispensation or something, though. Drink wine on Friday nights and holidays . . . Scotch on special occassions.
Only when I’ve got toothache...
Only when I’ve got toothache...
Or, yanked this babe outta the bar at 2am
"I feel sorry for people who don't drink, because when they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they're going to feel for the rest of the day.."
I better have a drink and think about this.
What I was thinking -
most alcoholics don’t think it’s much of a problem.
Madd members think that all non-teatotallers are alcoholics.
Since before I was involved in politics and became accustomed to this kind of thing, I’ve alway been skeptical of this rush to make everyone an alcoholic.
I suppose if podiatrists thought they could get away with it they’d try to convince us all that we have a grave and serious toe fungus whether we believe it or not. Denial would be the first indication.
We meet at the local bar a lot.....
A wise man once told me:
Rationalizations are more important than sex ... think about it, when was the last ime you went a week without a good rationalization.
Here’s the simple rule of thumb: If you’ve ever wondered if you’re an alocohlic...you probably are.
We need to get rid of the term. There are no alcoholics. If the problem gets to be that bad you are a drunk. Face up to it.
Eventually, everyone who has been drunk ever will be declared an alcoholic. There aren’t enough smokers left to demonize, so it’s drinkers and fat people next.
I read once that if you could not give up alcohol (go dry) you were an alcoholic.
If I never had another drink I would not care so I guess I’m not an alcoholic.
AA is for quitters......
It is really no laughing matter. I know!
"The encouraging news from the NIAAA's recent research is that many people do cut down or quit on their own. "That's the real mind blower," says Dr. Willenbring. "Only about 15% of the people who develop alcohol dependence in their lifetime have the severe, relapsing form. Most people -- 72% -- have a single episode [of addiction] lasting on average three or four years and then they go into remission and stay there. A lot of them are abstaining." For many people, that spate of heavy drinking happens in college -- the peak years are 18 to 24, says Dr. Willenbring. "Then they mature out of it and get on with their lives.""
alcoholism is a sham.. its not a disease..if its a disease then so is crack and heroin.
so we need to start diagnosing crackheads with crackism. let the mknow that it isnt their fault and then get them help.
Here’s the deal..if you’re suspected of being an alcoholic, even if you haven’t crossed that line...chances are you will. And if you stop before you cross that line...your life will be infinitely better. There’s really no down side.
God help me! I guilty on both fronts!
Is a person who murders a murderer? Who golfs a golfer? Who works on cars a mechanic?
We are defined by what we do. Tough world.
After this election all all the Live threads of debates, I may be:)
I love booze, but it’s fattening.
alcoholics are merely the drunks that goto meetings.
and the majority of the alcoholics will go back to being just drunks after their court ordered meeting attendance is fulfilled.
Whiskey has calories?
A person affected with alcoholism is an alcoholic. I looked up the word in my Oxford dictionary, and Merriam-Webster's Online states it has been in use as a noun for over a hundred years.
I “did” the Dewar’s Distillery tour at 10 a.m. Can’t drink their stuff anymore.
By that same logic, you could become the lost heir of Czar Nicholas II by merely wondering it.
Does FRinking count?
I resemble that remark!
I thought Alcoholics are the ones who quit drinking and go to meetings.
I had some exposure to the alcoholism “business” a few years back. The trouble with the alcohol assessment and treatment industry is that it’s defined and managed by alcoholics. Alcoholics have defined what constitutes alcoholism. And many of those alcohol counselors do believe that everyone who drinks is just like them and on the road to becoming ‘dependent’... Don’t try to deny it! -that’s one of the symptoms.
Your drinking pattern appears to fall within the ranges considered safe for most people your age and gender, and your results do not suggest that alcohol is harming your health.
It was a woman that drove me to drink and I never had the decency to writh and Thank Her.
Oxford dictionary or no, a medical diagnosis is a noun. “Alcoholism” is a major mental disorder found in people of varying temperaments, ability, ages and backgrounds. To use the adjective “alcoholic” as a noun falsely leads one to false assumptions about that person. Turning the adjective “alcoholic” into a noun hinders both understanding and early treatment.
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