Posted on 01/13/2008 6:35:14 PM PST by normy
I have noticed various people going from thread to thread telling people why not to vote for certain candidates. While thats fine I would like to know why Republicans should support thier candidate.
I think this thread would be usefull and please feel free to refute lies and distortions posted by various supporters.
Electability is a weak argument for your candidate so please give some reasons other than that.
As a Fred supporter myself it seems Huck and McCain supporters can only tell everyone why they shouldn't vote for Mitt or Fred but I would like to know why I should support your candidate instead of mine.
There is no such thing as the perfect candidate, but there has to be someone with a consistent underling philosophy that I can accept.
That’s why I am supporting Fred. I support his view on American Federalism, not socialism or nanny-statism, or Rockefeller Republicanism.
Mine likes cheese!
This is really, really, really complicated so pay attention...
You need to have a degree in nuclear physics to understand it...
Rudy, Mitt, McCain and especially Huckabee are liberals.
Fred is a conservative.
Any questions?
The GOP is composed of multiple factions, each with its own priorities. Unforntunately this election cycle, too many members of the various factions in our coalition are seeking their own faction's ideal candidate, without regard to the opinions of other factions. The only result of such an attitude will be the destruction of the coalition that is the GOP.
We must unite behind a candidate that is at least acceptable to all the major factions, and who also has a reasonable chance to run an effective, winning campaign in the general election.
United we stand, divided we fall. Thompson may not be your ideal candidate, but he can unite the GOP coalition better than any other candidate. A united coalition is a strong coaltion, whose members will be energized to work towards the election of their consensus candidate, and go to the polls to vote for him on election day.
1) He is the most conservative candidate in the race. He has a 92% lifetime rating, American Conservative Union.
2) He is the “National Security” candidate. He served with the 173rd Airborne and the 75th Army Rangers in Vietnam, and was, most recently, the Chairman of the Armed Services Committee in the House of Representatives. Duncan Hunter knows defense.
3) He is a strong supporter of missile defense.
4) He’s a strong supporter of Israel.
5) He was responsible for building the fence along the Mexico-U.S. border in San Diego. That double fence cut smuggling (people and drugs) over 90%.
6) He opposes the McCain-Kennedy Amnesty bill in the Senate.
7) He is a co-sponsor of the Fair Tax.
8) He was the co-sponsor of a bill that would require a 2/3 majority in Congress to raise taxes.
9) He is a strong proponent of fair trade and will fix some of the bad trade deals that have been made by previous administrations in order to keep high paying jobs in America.
10) He pledges to appoint originalist judges like Antonin Scalia.
11) He has a 100% Pro-Life rating from National Right to Life.
12) He believes that marriage is between a man and a woman. He supports a Constitutional Amendment to protect marriage.
13) He is a strong defender of the 2nd Amendment who has an A+ National Rifle Association rating.
14) He supports school choice.
The position of POTUS is the biggest executive position in the world. A candidate should have large-scale executive experience. The only three who have ANY executive experience are Mitt, Rudy and Huck. Mitt and Rudy are good candidates except for their liberal social positions. Huck is the only long-time social conservative who has also says that he will be a fiscal conservative as President even though he wasn’t always as a Republican Gov in a Dem state.
Pro-life
Pro 2nd Amendment
Flat tax or cut tax
anti-gay marriage
Anti amnesty, would punish sanctuary cities, build the fence
Supports the troops and their mission
Well, I think I understand that, Eric, and they are all liberals if you “recenter” the GOP base. I think Romney IS an ecomonic conservative, and Huckabee is a social conservative, Rudy is neither, and McCain is a proven RINO.
Which would leave Thompson.
Okay, get him to win South Carolina.
There is no perfect guy out there. Fred Thompson is however the most consistently conservative candidate in the running.
Name your issue and you won’t find a candidate with a chance at the nomnination that is more conservative on it. Pro-Life? National Right to Life has endorsed Fred.
Thats what I am talking about. Thanks for your simple response concerning Hunter.
And that was just for starters!
Rudy is an economic supply side conservative and a foreign policy conservative on steroids. He’s just unacceptable to the social conservatives.
To the socons credit, at least here on FR, they have rejected Huck. For the same reasons that libertarians like myself turned their back on Rudy....Simply out of respect for the other members of the party base.
Only one man can unite the party’s base...FRED THOMPSON.
I’m hoping for a brokered convention where wiser and cooler heads will prevail. Judging by Iowa, people are just too f’ing stupid to vote.
I have decided to support Mitt Romney.
1. He understands economic principles. I think we have some rough sledding ahead in terms of our economy, and he has expertise in turning around losing propositions (businesses, Olympics, state of MA economy).
2. His economic principles are basically conservative.
3. I believe that his change from pro-choice to pro-life is real and permanent.
4. I think that he will take a reasonably strong stance against granting amnesty (or otherwise known as “not amnesty because they have to pay a fine”).
5. He is mature, even-tempered, and very intelligent —important qualities for handling international affairs
Don’t judge ANYTHING by Iowa.
8) He was the co-sponsor of a bill that would require a 2/3 majority in Congress to raise taxes.
Are you sure about #7? I thought he said he doesn't support Fair Tax?
Did the 2/3 tax bill ever pass? If not, does Fred intend to push it as President?
Fred Thompson has a strong but stable temperament, strong on courage, highly intelligent and has deep insight. Thompson is minimally self-serving, which helps him to choose right over wrong. Conservative with conservative background.
I think this was a post supporting Huckabee, not Thompson.
We are both wrong. It was a post about Duncan. I'm tired... time to turn in... :)
d’oh. I stand corrected.
Hunter is the most conservative candidate on the issues.
FRED THOMPSON is the best person to lead this country. He is a true conservative and has been his entire life. All one has to do is check his record to see this.
During my time in the Army as an Intelligence Analyst, I personally served under both Presidents Carter and Reagan. Without argument, President Reagan was the best commander-in-chief a military person could ever have served under. Fred Thompson possesses the same qualities and vision as President Reagan in that he is strong on national defense and sees a dire need to secure our borders and control immigration.
I can think of no better person to lead this country and fix the problems we have. He is the only candidate from either party who has specific and detailed plans on border security and immigration reform; revitalization of America’s armed forces; saving and protecting Social Security; and tax relief and economic growth. These are detailed on his Web site at www.fred08.com . I challenge you to find any other candidate who has laid out specific plans to fix anything.
Fred Thompson has published his first principles, some of which are mentioned above. In addition to those, he strongly believes in individual liberty, personal responsibility, limited government, federalism, traditional American values, the rule of law and is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment — all concepts established during the birth of our country and documented in our Constitution.
Again, try to find any candidate who has laid out their plans to “fix” this country. You will find they all speak in vague and abstract terms on their plans.
For those who have heard Fred Thompson speak, you will usually hear him say that the Fred Thompson you see today is the same Fred Thompson you saw yesterday and is the same Fred Thompson you will see tomorrow. He stands by his principles and values and doesn’t shift his positions based on polls or public opinion; in other words, he doesn’t say what the voters want to hear just to get elected, but remains steadfast on his views and convictions.
During his time in the Senate he focused on three areas: to lower taxes, strengthen national security and expose waste in the federal government. Fred Thompson has foreign policy experience, having served as member of the Senate Foreign Relations and Senate Intelligence committees.
As chairman of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, he opened the investigation in 1997 on the Chinese government’s attempt to influence American policies and elections, and this investigation identified connections with the Clinton administration (documented in the committee’s report).
As a member of the Finance Committee, he worked tirelessly to enact three major tax-cut bills. Fred Thompson remains steadfast and even though a person may not agree with all his views and he understands some may disagree with him, you can count on him to be consistent and unwavering.
Don’t be fooled by his laid back approach and what critics call his “laziness.” As a former assistant U.S. attorney, he earned a reputation as a tough prosecutor and he possesses the toughness this country needs in order to tackle today’s and tomorrow’s issues.
I ask that you take a hard look at what this country needs, then take a hard look at all the other candidates’ views, policies, their records and their track record on consistency. Fred Thompson possesses integrity, loyalty, commitment, energy and decisiveness, all traits of an effective leader, and will emerge as the best person to take this country boldly forward.
Please help Fred win in South Carolina:
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This is a great point.
He supported it, and co-sponsored a bill a good while back, before it was fashionable.
Did the 2/3 tax bill ever pass? If not, does Fred intend to push it as President?
Of course it didn't pass. Congress would never put sensible spending constraints on itself! As for Thompson supporting it (should he become CIC) I would certainly hope so.
My post #17 is taken directly from the Duncan Hunter web site.
http://www.gohunter08.com/
As is becoming apparent, money is king in Presidential politics.
You’re either filthy rich or you have to get filthy rich special interest groups to fund you.
Since conservatives sat on their hands (and wallets) early on, complaining about all the RINO’s in the race, while doing nothing to help, Hunter hasn’t gotten the support he needs and deserves from thos same grass roots conservatives.
The same ones who still complain about the RINO’s in the race.
You’re right. I corrected myself.
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