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Heath Ledger's role in 'Brokeback Mountain' miffed Mel Gibson
Rush and Molloy (NY Daily News) ^ | 01.25.08 | Rush and Molloy

Posted on 01/25/2008 9:51:57 AM PST by Perdogg

Mel Gibson has called Heath Ledger's death this week a "tragic loss." But in recent years, Gibson had distanced himself from the risk-taking actor, it's been claimed.

Gibson turned cold toward Ledger after the Aussie star ignored his advice not to play a gay cowboy in "Brokeback Mountain," according to private investigator Paul Barresi.

Ledger and Gibson had grown close while filming "The Patriot," in which Ledger played Gibson's son.

"Ledger asked Gibson whether he should take the role of Ennis Del Mar in 'Brokeback,'" Barresi says a "major Hollywood producer" told him. "Gibson strongly counseled against it. The role apparently ran counter to Gibson's morality. And he felt that it would ruin Heath's career."

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1 posted on 01/25/2008 9:51:59 AM PST by Perdogg
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To: MotleyGirl70; Tax-chick; jdm
Inquiring minds ping! ;)
2 posted on 01/25/2008 9:53:09 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences)
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To: Perdogg

What if Ledger wanted to play an anti-Semitic drunk?


3 posted on 01/25/2008 9:54:09 AM PST by brooklyn dave ("I'll take Manhattan, the Bronx and Staten Island Too" LALALALA)
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To: Perdogg
Role is the operative word here. After all R Lee Ermy played a gay football coach who married Jack Black.
4 posted on 01/25/2008 9:54:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: Perdogg
It is perhaps interesting that Heath Ledger got advice from Jack Nicholson and didn't take it (Jack said after the death "I told him so" -- whatever that really means).

And Heath got advice from Mel Gibson and didn't take it.

The whole thing is a shame, but if industry giants were giving me advice, I'd gratefully take it.

5 posted on 01/25/2008 9:56:04 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Oh, am I hijacking your rant?)
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To: brooklyn dave
What if Ledger wanted to play an anti-Semitic drunk?

Cold, man. But perfect!

-Joan

6 posted on 01/25/2008 9:59:06 AM PST by JoanVarga ("¿Por qué no te callas?")
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To: cripplecreek

This is why I could never be an actor. I would have no problem doing nudity, but I could never kiss man or pretend to have sex with a man. I guess the only benefit for Heath in Brokeback Mountain was Michelle Williams.


7 posted on 01/25/2008 9:59:44 AM PST by Perdogg (Elections have consequences)
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To: Perdogg

He had to be unstable to take that role.


8 posted on 01/25/2008 10:00:30 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Perdogg

It appears he felt he could handle his own career. Was doing well at it, too, from a business standpoint.

I was reading anti-Castro Cuban blog earlier, and there was an entry about Heath Ledger. The blogger thought he was a talented actor and was sorry he died.


9 posted on 01/25/2008 10:04:00 AM PST by Tax-chick ("Gently alluding to the indisputably obvious is not gloating." ~Richard John Neuhaus)
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To: Perdogg

Yeah I think I could play a gay man as long as it never involved more than a peck on the cheek.

What kills me are the guys who do gay porn and claim they aren’t gay. I’m sorry but if you stick your willywong in someone elses unloading dock, you’re gay.


10 posted on 01/25/2008 10:04:18 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: brooklyn dave

I shouldn’t laugh but that’s pretty funny.


11 posted on 01/25/2008 10:04:43 AM PST by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: cripplecreek

That was a comedy, Bareback was much different.

How can any man go through life being known for “I wish I could quit you?”


12 posted on 01/25/2008 10:05:29 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Vision
He had to be unstable to take that role.

I am not all that sure "actors" should consider the morality of the role they play in a film. If that were the case, moral people could not play the role of a murderer, adulterer, thief, drunken anti-semite or politician.

14 posted on 01/25/2008 10:06:57 AM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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To: Vision

I didn’t watch Bareback mountain so I remember him for his role in the patriot.


15 posted on 01/25/2008 10:07:09 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: trumandogz

That film was activist propaganda, not a run of the mill flick.


16 posted on 01/25/2008 10:11:35 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: cripplecreek

Me neither. He was great in the Patriot.


17 posted on 01/25/2008 10:12:20 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Vision

It was fiction, a movie and all the people in the movie were actors. The purpose of Brokeback Mountain was to make money and the goal of every actor in the film was not make money, not be an activist.


19 posted on 01/25/2008 10:17:20 AM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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To: Vision
He had to be unstable to take that role.

Why? He was brilliant in that role. I thought he deserved the Oscar for it. If it had not been for the movie Crash being out the same year, Brokeback Mountain should have taken the Oscar for best film as well. Amazing piece of film making. Ang Lee got some very good performances out of his actors. It's one of the better films I've seen in the past ten years.

20 posted on 01/25/2008 10:18:33 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: brooklyn dave

What if he wanted to play an anti-Semitic, chain-smoking, blue-streak-cursing, drunk-driving, police officer-abusing, gory violence-obsessed, nutcase drunk? Would that be okay with “moral” Mel?


21 posted on 01/25/2008 10:34:08 AM PST by Cecily
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To: Perdogg

This is not surprising.

It’s very disappointing to me, too.


22 posted on 01/25/2008 10:36:09 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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To: trumandogz

After looking into the writers and directer I have to agree with you.

But IMO it’s irresponsible to promote homosexuality as a healthy lifestyle, which(not having seen the movie) the film seems to do.


23 posted on 01/25/2008 10:37:37 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Prodigal Son

I didn’t see the movie but with all the vicious things that have been said I’m tempted—if nothing else just to see if all the hand flapping & hyperventilating is even remotely justified.

I’m guessing it’s not. And I’m pretty sure I’m right.


24 posted on 01/25/2008 10:39:27 AM PST by Sue Perkick (And I hope that what I’ve done here today doesn’t force you to have a negative opinion of me….)
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To: Prodigal Son; cripplecreek
1. Ang Lee is the most overrated director since Hitchcock.

2. Bareback Mountain was a ho hum drama in a year of bad films. I did think PSH (best actor working right now, IMHO) did deserve his award for Capote.

25 posted on 01/25/2008 10:40:42 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: Vision
I saw the film and it was very good, a bit graphic but good none the less.

Now, what about a film where a character does drugs, commits adultery, murders, has premarital sex, uses the Lord’s name in vain or commits a crime?

Are each of those films promoting such a lifestyle?

26 posted on 01/25/2008 10:41:50 AM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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To: Clemenza
Ang Lee’s "Ice Storm" is a depressing, perverted mess.
27 posted on 01/25/2008 10:43:11 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: propol
(if you can get past the soundtrack clashing with the period setting)

What?? That was part of the fun!
28 posted on 01/25/2008 10:43:33 AM PST by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: Vision

For all of its faults, the Ice Storm was still far superior to the similar (but overpraised) American Beauty.


29 posted on 01/25/2008 10:44:21 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: trumandogz

Does the movie you’re talking about promote those behaviors? If so, my answer is yes.


30 posted on 01/25/2008 10:45:35 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Vision
I saw the movie and it in no way promotes homosexuality nor does it promote adultery.

Simply because a behavior takes place in a movie does not mean that the behavior is being promoted.

31 posted on 01/25/2008 10:49:33 AM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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To: Clemenza

American Beauty was the first movie to show me how twisted Hollywood is. THAT movie was propaganda IMO.

Written by Alan Ball, an attack and ridicule on the country from what I suppose is an angry homosexual.


32 posted on 01/25/2008 10:50:18 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Vision

Find me a person who saw Brokeback Mountain and decided to leave his wife for a gay cowboy.


33 posted on 01/25/2008 10:50:48 AM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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To: cripplecreek
What kills me are the guys who do gay porn and claim they aren’t gay. I’m sorry but if you stick your willywong in someone elses unloading dock, you’re gay.

Or as Andrew Dice Clay put it, 'you either suck d, or you do not suck d, there is no in between.'

34 posted on 01/25/2008 10:50:58 AM PST by dfwgator (11+7+15=3 Heismans)
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To: Vision

I especially loved the not-so-subtle attack on both heterosexuality and the military in Chris Cooper’s closeted Marine.


35 posted on 01/25/2008 10:52:01 AM PST by Clemenza (Ronald Reagan was a "Free Traitor", Like Me ;-))
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To: trumandogz
Is that a joke?

There was and should be responsibility in what is shown. Every movie effects people’s behavior to some degree. Whether it be drugs, violence, etc.

36 posted on 01/25/2008 10:53:49 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: trumandogz

I’m more concerned about a person who is having a rough time in life and decides to try out a homosexual lifestyle because movies like this make it seem mainstream.


37 posted on 01/25/2008 10:55:13 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Vision

We used to enjoy him in the tv series ‘Roar’, but it only lasted one season.


38 posted on 01/25/2008 10:55:32 AM PST by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: Clemenza
There were too many attacks to list. The title of the film is symbolic of the entire mess.

The reason Hollywood has to make sequels and recreate older franchises is because they’re too twisted to be genuinely creative on a high level anymore.

39 posted on 01/25/2008 10:58:01 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Perdogg

I wonder why people are taking this movie as reason why he died. If he committed suicide during the filming of Brokeback Mountain or died of an overdose shortly after the film came out I could maybe see a connection. The movie was out years ago (at least 3) and he has done plenty of movies since. Jake Gellehaul (spell?) seems to be fine so I don’t see any possible way that this movie had anything whatsoever to do with his death which from what has been in the news is going to be an accident.


40 posted on 01/25/2008 10:58:09 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Vision
The movie was Rated R meaning that it was to be seen by adults.

As adults we are responsible for our behavior and have no need for movie directors or actors to take responsibility for our behavior.

Perhaps, you would prefer that the government assume the role of morale hygiene and approve films to be shown in the United States?

41 posted on 01/25/2008 10:58:39 AM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The whole thing is a shame, but if industry giants were giving me advice, I’d gratefully take it.

I don’t think he would have gotten Batman if he did not do that movie. It put him on the map. Plus Tom Hanks did Philadelphia...when he passes away are we going to hear about Philadelphia for days after? Are we even going to discuss it on FREEPERS....I somehow doubt it.


42 posted on 01/25/2008 10:59:40 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator
I wonder why people are taking this movie as reason why he died.

One word: agenda.

43 posted on 01/25/2008 11:00:51 AM PST by ShadowDancer (Alcoholism is a disease, but it’s the only disease that you can get yelled at for having.)
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To: trumandogz

American society is full of responsible adults? That’s news to me. I wish the industry would be self policing with a fraction of the passion the MSM uses to edit the news to fit their agenda.


44 posted on 01/25/2008 11:01:42 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: Vision
Again we, not the movies we see, are responsible for out actions.

However, if you can find a married man who saw Brokeback mountain and then ran out of the movieplex as soon as the credits began to role, to have an affair with a gay cowboy you may have a point.

45 posted on 01/25/2008 11:03:30 AM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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To: ShadowDancer

Very good point. I forgot it works both ways. I just didn’t think FREEPERS fell into that. I thought FREEPERS hated people with agendas...guess I was wrong.


46 posted on 01/25/2008 11:03:41 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: trumandogz

It may have been rated R, but the film and its lame, over the top dialog has become household humor.


47 posted on 01/25/2008 11:04:35 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: trumandogz

Why are you going out of your way to miss my point about those with gender issues?


48 posted on 01/25/2008 11:05:55 AM PST by Vision ("The Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom." 2 Corinthians 3:1)
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To: trumandogz

I thought most straight men wouldn’t go to see men kissing.


49 posted on 01/25/2008 11:06:01 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Vision

Who exactly is it you would like to set standards that the movie industry should follow in order to make movies that meet your morale framework?


50 posted on 01/25/2008 11:06:42 AM PST by trumandogz (Whichever Way the Wind Blows Willard 2008)
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