Posted on 01/30/2008 7:16:09 AM PST by brownsfan
Ok, total vanity here. I don't do this often, but Chat should be the place for this?
I read about the tirade Dana Jacobson of ESPN's First Take had at the Mike & Mike roast. She was trying to be clever, while loaded up with Vodka and came up with, something on the order of: f* Notre Dame, f* touchdown Jesus, and f* Jesus.
I emailed ESPN expressed my disgust and my belief that Ms. Jacobson should be removed from on air, not just suspended for a week. ESPN replied with drivel about "context". I told them I will never watch a program with Ms. Jacobson as a contributor. I just saw the beginning of "First Take" and there she was, on air. I noted that Direct TV was the major sponsor. I changed the channel, and immediately emailed Direct TV.
I know ESPN is a nest of liberals and that they probably find humor in Ms. Jacobson's outburst. But they also are in business to have people watch their programs. I think it would be useful to have some sports minded freepers join me in letting ESPN know we don't find her outburst funny, and we will boycott programs that feature this hateful woman.
Thanks.
A roast is something unique. It’s where people are supposed to say outrageous and offensive things.
Sure, she said some really dumb stuff. Worse yet, it wasn’t funny. But we shouldn’t be offended that a roast got really obnoxious - that’s the whole point.
this was a private party and although her words were worse than ludicrous, they should not have been for public dissemination.
“A roast is something unique. It’s where people are supposed to say outrageous and offensive things.”
I’ve seen roasts. I realize that they tend to be bawdy. Generally the insults are aimed at the roastees. I know Golic went to Notre Dame, but what she said is going way too far. If Golic were a muslim, and she had said that stuff about mo-ham-head, she’d be gone.
A roast for Mike & Mike is a public event. There are boundries for behavior. If I’m out to dinner with my boss, and it’s not a work function, I can still say things that would end my career at my current employer.
What she said is so far out of bounds, I feel a week suspension isn’t enough. Just my opinion.
“this was a private party and although her words were worse than ludicrous, they should not have been for public dissemination.”
I disagree. Given the people involved, it wasn’t like a party at their home.
That was the point I was trying to make - at a roast, there are no boundaries. They're supposed to be crude, peurile, un-PC and offensive.
Unless ESPN warned participants ahead of time that the network had limits, there shouldn't be any punishment at all. Anyone attending or watching a roast should expect to be offended on a primal level. You have to just laugh it off, even if it offends you.
Did you see the roast of William Shatner? The things said about George Takei being gay would have ended careers in any other context. But as part of the roast, gay groups and Takei himself just laughed along with the joke.
We don't need to start sanitizing the one traditional forum for deliberately offending people. A roast is free speech in action, taken to its crudest and basest levels.
The only thing wrong I see is that her comments weren't funny. But only professional comedians should be suspended or fired for not being funny.
I seriously believe that the people at ESPN dislike covering sports, and play a game to see how much they can annoy the crap out of people before the pain and stupidity of their commentary makes people go, "Dude, I love football, but not enough to listen to this sh*t."
I understand that some people are less interested in sports than I am and that ESPN is trying to bring in some entertainment to attract the casual viewer, but I want see the committee that thought having Tom Arnold talk about his raw nipples would increase ratings.
The point will be whether she becomes a repeat offender. Punishment will certainly escalate then.
First, I agree that I didn’t find her outburst funny. But, I will not stoop to the level of the fascist leftist who continually call on the firing of every person that utters a word with which they disagree.
People are simply too sensitive to mere words. Too quik to be offended. Too quick to destroy the life of someone for an “offensive” sentence or two.
Butch up, and lighten up. She was wrong, and should certainly apologize ... but this nonsensical hypersensitivity is simply ridiculous.
This Christian will not urge her firing — and I will not boycott ESPN. Forgiveness is a Christian virtue many should learn.
H
“Butch up, and lighten up.”
Those who cared to reply agree with you. That’s ok. We disagree. The sentiment behind what was said is beyond my tolerence level, even in jest. I won’t watch the woman, and I do call for her firing.
The other posters who responded were thoughtful, and reasonable in their replies. Note I said the “other” posters, you aren’t included in that group.
>> The other posters who responded were thoughtful, and reasonable in their replies. Note I said the “other” posters, you aren’t included in that group.
Over-sensitivity strikes again. I wasn’t talking about you specifically — I don’t know you.
I was talking generally about people to whom the destruction of someones livelihood is a reasonable response to an offhanded obnoxious remark.
If that’s you, then fine ... my statement was directed at the general sentiment however, not a specific individual.
H
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