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Defensive Thoughts for the Day (advice on being armed)
via email | 1-25-08 | Greg Parry

Posted on 01/31/2008 2:28:54 PM PST by dynachrome

Defensive Thoughts for the Day

Get Good With Gun Gab by Greg Perry

Always practice your response when asked why you carry a gun or what you think of gun control. Through the years several writers and enthusiasts have written great sound bites you can use. Gun people love to exchange gun-related effective statements that are funny, cut to the heart of gun controls evil, promote freedom & defense, or all of the above.

Being armed emotionally and conversationally is almost as important as being armed with bullets that fly out your guns muzzle. The left thinks it owns the arguments. To be honest, many times it does because those who believe in freedom are often so caught up in day-to-day productivity and trying to make ends meet for their families that they don't take time to hone arguments well. Hence, they don't defend their faith and ideals well. The left, often with no families or real jobs and no prospects or dreams for either have more time to master debate skills.

Arm Yourself With These Lines

(If I don't cite a source, either it's a statement I wrote or one that was passed to me and I could not locate an original source.) It used to be John Birch Society's motto that "Truth is our only weapon!" Such a statement, while understandable, has problems. The truth is decisive and is a good weapon but it's a passive weapon. You must be able to fight for your defense, your freedom, and ultimately perhaps fight to maintain control of your guns. Have you noticed that lone gunmen never attack police stations or Israeli schools? (You might want to review, No Guns Allowed Signs Increase Murder .)

Every time our military has been in involved in any conflict, some of our own have been shot and killed. If trained military cannot 100% always successfully protect each other, how can we expect school security to protect us? How can we expect TSA workers (I use the term "workers" loosely...) to protect us? How can we expect typically bad shooters known as BATF or police officers to protect us?

Caliber-Related (Here's Where Some Furious Emails Will Begin!) Paraphrased and Modified from Coopers description of the .25: "If you must own a 9mm, keep it in a box so you don't accidentally load it. If you do load it, don't shoot it. If you do shoot it don't hit someone. Because if you do hit someone and if he ever realizes he's shot, he's going to be angry!"

Nine-millimeters are all well and good until someone loses an eye.

As long as one doesn't get into a gunfight, a 9mm is just fine. ~ Mark Moritz

Do not attend a gunfight with a handgun whose caliber does not start with a "4."

Rules of Gunfighting The absolute First Rule of a Gunfight, in Mark Moritz' brilliantly enunciated aphorism, is "Have a gun!" The subsequent lines below help supplement that first rule: 1. Have a gun. a. Preferably, have at least two guns. b. Bring all of your friends who have guns. c. Pack extra ammo 2. If you can choose what to bring to a gunfight, bring a long gun... and a friend with a long gun.

When You Have to Shoot Anything worth shooting is worth shooting two times, more if necessary. Ammo is cheap. Life is expensive. ~ Gabe Suarez

(Revisited) Ammo is cheap and (your) life is precious so be generous. And shoot your adversary to the ground. ~ Gabe Suarez

"Why didn't I shoot only once? There's no additional paperwork for shooting someone twice!" ~ Firearms Instructor P.O.J.D., MOS debriefing after a shooting.

"Why did I shoot him 7 times? Because 6 times wouldn't have been enough and 8 would have been too many." ~ Massad Ayoob

When asked, "Why do you need a gun with 17 rounds?" you should gently reply, "In case I get attacked by 17 bad guys."

Only hits count. The only thing worse than a miss is a slow miss. (I believe the following all may have been said by Gabe Suarez.) If your shooting stance is good, you're probably not moving fast enough or using cover correctly. Proximity negates skill. Distance is your friend. (Lateral and diagonal movement are preferred.) In ten years nobody will remember the details of caliber, stance or tactics. They will only remember who lived.

If you are not shooting, you should be communicating, reloading and running.

Someday someone may kill you with your own gun but they should have to beat you to death with it because it is empty.

Winning the Fight Always cheat, always win. The only unfair fight is the one you lose. ~ Colonel Jeff Cooper

If you find yourself equally matched in a fight, you didn't plan your mission properly. ~ Paraphrased from Cooper

The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental. ~ John Steinbeck

Have a plan. Have a back-up plan, because the first one won't work. Watch their hands. Hands kill. (In God we trust. Everybody else keep your hands where I can see them.) The faster you finish the fight, the less shot you will get. ~ Cooper

A good general rule of thumb: Be polite. Be professional. But... have a plan to kill everyone you meet. Be courteous to everyone. Friendly to no one. Nothing handheld is a reliable stopper. Carry the same gun in the same place all the time. ~ Cooper

Freedom Related
An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a victim.


A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.


Smith & Wesson: The original point and click interface .
Gun control is not about guns; it's about control


If guns are outlawed, can we use swords?


If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words


Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.


If you don't know your rights you don't have any.


Those who trade liberty for security have neither.


The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.


What part of "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?


The Second Amendment is in place in case they ignore the others.


64,999,987 firearms owners killed no one yesterday.


Guns only have two enemies: Rust and Politicians. ~ Cooper


You don't shoot to kill; you shoot to stay alive.


Dialing 911- government sponsored Dial a Prayer.


Assault is a behavior, not a device .
Criminals love gun control - it makes their jobs safer.


If guns cause crime, why do we want policemen to have them?


Enforce the "gun control laws" in place, don't make more.


If you remove the people's right to bear arms, you create slaves.


The American Revolution wouldn't have happened with Gun Control.


If you know how many guns you own, you don't own enough guns. (My Motto-LR)


You can't make an appointment to have an emergency so always have your firearm. ~ Cooper


Gun Inscription: Be not afraid of any man, no matter what his size.


When danger threatens call on me, and I will equalize.


Always fire two warning shots into your attackers chest area before putting a bullet between his eyes. Paraphrased from Louis Awerbuck


Should be a required warning on every handgun: This handgun should only be used to enable you to get to your rifle which you should have had in hand before this firefight broke out.

Proper Responses to Why Do You Carry a Gun?


Q: Why do you carry a gun?
A: In case I have to shoot somebody.
Q: Why do you carry a gun?
A: For the same reason a policeman carries a gun.
Q: Why do you carry a gun?
A: Don't you?
Q: Why do you carry a gun? A: I'd rather be a gun owner than a crime victim.
Q: Why do you carry a gun?
A: For the same reason I would never get on a boat without a life jacket.

Miscellany
Brandishing is a crime, and it's dangerous (to you) and foolish. The threat you face should catch at least two rounds before he realizes you have a firearm. Never brandish your weapon. ~ Cooper

The Pacifist and the Gun:
When the Quaker found the burglar in his living room filling the sack with the family silver, the Quaker declaimed with calm, respectful dignity, "Friend, not for the world would I harm a hair on thy head, but thee is standing exactly where I am about to shoot." (From Gunsite Gossip)


Bumper Sticker: Fight Crime - Shoot Back (From Gunsite Gossip)

Quote from Blackjack Pershing:
"If you know how to shoot, and are quite ready to shoot, the chances are that you won't have to shoot." This is why trained, gun carriers are often the most calm people in a group.

Engraved on Sir Walter Scotts blunderbuss muzzle:
"When rogues appear, my voice you'll hear!" (with folding spring bayonet no less!)


Waste enemies, not ammunition. ~ Mark Moritz


Good shooting is 90% of killing power. ~ Finn Agaard


Big brother is now here and look, he is retarded. ~ Bob Bude


Judging by Waco and the Weavers, the feds are almost one hundred times more likely to kill an innocent person than a guilty one. ~ Jack Buchnmiller


The pen is mightier than the sword except in a sword fight. ~ Eric Ching


The stars and stripes have no place to fly over a country where you have no right to bear arms. ~ Matt Egloff


A golf course is the willful and deliberate misuse of a perfectly good rifle range. ~ Paul Kirchner


Hits vary inversely in proportion to the number of rounds in the magazine. ~ Ronin Coleman


If no one is shooting at you, you have nothing to complain about. If someone is then shoot back. ~ Curt Rich


A free man is never unarmed. ~ Cooper


Interesting how liberals "compassionate conservatives" prompt for safety devices to be installed on cars, but are against safety devices on weapons (e.g. silencers, pistol grips, flash hiders).

They say "violence begets violence" as if that's a bad thing in half the cases. In the words of Jeff Cooper, I would certainly hope that it does.
Self-defense means meeting violence with an immediate, direct, and more violent response.
This also holds true for nations, such as America, who attacked back and with the greatest force in WWII. The proper response for unprovoked and unjustified violence is harsher violence.
Such a response neutralizes the threat (see Germany and Japan today) whereas a meek response to violence (Vietnam, Afghanistan, Ir aq) produces a continued violent disrespect. (No matter your stance on the current Iraq war, this still holds true.)


If guns were the problem, then the military should not have guns.
January 25, 2008


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Humor; Society
KEYWORDS: armed; armedcitizen; banglist; defense; guns
Some good advice here.
1 posted on 01/31/2008 2:28:56 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: EarthBound

Bang Ping!


2 posted on 01/31/2008 2:48:07 PM PST by MacDorcha (Do you feel that you can place full trust in your obsevations of the physical world?)
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To: dynachrome
Q. Why do you carry a gun?

A. Because a Cop is too heavy.

I always liked that one.

3 posted on 01/31/2008 3:39:20 PM PST by PeteB570 (NRA - Life member and Black Rifle owner)
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To: PeteB570

One of my favorites that isn’t on the list.

“Gun control: The theory that a woman found dead in an alley, raped and strangled with her panty hose, is somehow morally superior to a woman explaining to police how her attacker got that fatal bullet wound.” — L. Neil Smith


4 posted on 01/31/2008 3:45:06 PM PST by dynachrome (Immigration without assimilation means the death of this nation~Captainpaintball)
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To: dynachrome

Carrying a gun is like having 4 wheel drive....you don’t really need it until you need it very badly !!!


5 posted on 01/31/2008 3:52:02 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: dynachrome
Another one I like...

Until you have your weapon in your hand, you are not armed...you are merely packing.

6 posted on 01/31/2008 3:55:22 PM PST by GoldenPup
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To: PeteB570
Q. Why do you carry a gun?
A. Because a Cop is too heavy.

I always liked that one.

The late Barry Sadler was fond of the following:

Q. Why do you carry a gun?

Because hand grenades are heavy, and they hurt my ears.

And then he would take an M26 fragmentation grenade out from under his jacket and roll it around on the table. But it was in addition to his M1911A1 .45 autopistol, not instead of.

7 posted on 01/31/2008 4:18:55 PM PST by archy (Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
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To: g'nad; Ramius; 300winmag; Squantos; ExGeeEye; Sam Cree; HairOfTheDog

For your consideration.


8 posted on 01/31/2008 4:21:54 PM PST by osagebowman
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To: dynachrome

9 posted on 01/31/2008 4:57:59 PM PST by Lady Jag (I dreamed I surfed all day in my monthly donor wonder bra - https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate)
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To: osagebowman

Thank you, Osage.

I always point out to those who think that only authorities should be armed, that in America, the people themselves are armed because the people reserve power for themselves. Once only bureaucrats are armed, that power is fast disappearing. Of course it is anyway, but still.

But theoretically our government does not “rule” us, it instead preserves our liberty. At this point in America’s ever leftward drift, that sounds kind of laughable, but if you have the point of view that we are not “ruled,” and our founding fathers had that point of view, then it makes no sense to arm the state and disarm the people.

As to those who ask what reason there is to own an assault rifle, the reason is that in a free country, members of the citizenry are not obliged to give reasons to the state for their actions, it is quite the opposite - the state must justify its actions to the citizenry. But the answer is that we own assault rifles because we want to, that’s all, and because some day the state might wish to take away our freedom. The day the state starts disarming us is that day.


10 posted on 01/31/2008 5:53:14 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: archy

I knew Barry from around some of the Music Row beer joints in Nashville years ago. Not well, mind you, but enough to know what you’re saying is true.
Personally, I carry a gun because I’m too young to die and too old to take an ass kickin’.


11 posted on 01/31/2008 6:07:17 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: osagebowman; hiredhand

I no more own a gun so I can shoot someone than I own a first kit so I can injure myself .........

Peace & Grace used to rule this place and angels guarded the door. Now Peace is dead and the angels have fled and Grace has turned into a whore. Thus I carry a .44 !


12 posted on 01/31/2008 6:37:14 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. )
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To: dynachrome

I don’t carry a gun…

… to kill people. I carry a gun to keep from being killed.

I don’t carry a gun to scare people. I carry a gun
because sometimes this world can be a scary place.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m paranoid. I carry a gun
because there are real threats in the world.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m evil. I carry a gun
because I have lived long enough to see the evil in the world.

I don’t carry a gun because I hate the government. I carry a gun
because I understand the limitations of government.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m angry. I carry a gun so that I don’t have to
spend the rest of my life hating myself for failing to be prepared.

I don’t carry a gun because I want to shoot someone. I carry a gun because I want to
die at a ripe old age in my bed, and not on a sidewalk somewhere tomorrow afternoon.

I don’t carry a gun because I’m a cowboy. I carry a gun
because, when I die and go to heaven, I want to be a cowboy.

I don’t carry a gun to make me feel like a man. I carry a gun
because men know how to take care of themselves and the ones they love.

I don’t carry a gun because I feel inadequate. I carry a gun
because unarmed and facing three armed thugs, I am inadequate.

I don’t carry a gun because I love it. I carry a gun
because I love life and the people who make it meaningful to me.

“Police Protection” is an oxymoron. Free citizens must protect themselves.

Police do not protect you from crime, they usually just investigate
the crime after it happens and then call someone in to clean up the mess.


13 posted on 01/31/2008 6:43:30 PM PST by B4Ranch ((Don't forget to say a prayer for our soldiers out there in harm's way. ))
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To: Emmett McCarthy

That one was just added to the list.


14 posted on 01/31/2008 7:00:58 PM PST by B4Ranch ((Don't forget to say a prayer for our soldiers out there in harm's way. ))
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To: B4Ranch

Happy to contribute


15 posted on 01/31/2008 7:05:44 PM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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To: Squantos

That’s a good way of putting it! :-)


16 posted on 01/31/2008 8:00:44 PM PST by hiredhand (My kitty disappeared. NOT the rifle!)
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To: dynachrome

Bookmarked for leisure reading.


17 posted on 01/31/2008 8:05:59 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: dynachrome
Excellent post dynachrome, thanks.

Please see my tagline and home page for more firearmisms.

18 posted on 01/31/2008 8:07:37 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Oorang

What’s the map of on your home page?


19 posted on 01/31/2008 8:12:07 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: dynachrome
My latest acquistion is a Taurus PT-1911,.45ACP with Crimson Trace laser grips.Bought it last week and have fired about 50 rounds through it so far.

The laser took some getting used to and some tweaking to line it up with the Henie iron sights,but now it's right on and sighted in perfectly for me.

Sweeeet.

20 posted on 01/31/2008 8:29:12 PM PST by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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To: wastedyears

Guess I need to edit that. It’s just states I’ve visited.


21 posted on 01/31/2008 8:31:05 PM PST by Oorang (Tyranny thrives best where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Oorang

Ah, cool


22 posted on 01/31/2008 8:35:22 PM PST by wastedyears (This is my BOOMSTICK)
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To: oldsalt

I’m looking for one in stainless steel. I was quoted 615 dollars. The only thing I’m a little worried about is whether they used MIM parts. That injected molding doesn’t hold up.


23 posted on 02/01/2008 5:01:32 AM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Hunter '08)
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To: dynachrome

Stealing my new tag line.


24 posted on 02/01/2008 8:35:39 AM PST by Looking4Truth (If you don't know your rights you don't have any.)
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To: dynachrome

ping for later


25 posted on 02/02/2008 7:27:00 AM PST by dfwddr
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To: B4Ranch
B4Ranch, What is the source of your posting? I would like to share and give credit where credit is due. Thanks!
26 posted on 02/03/2008 9:04:22 AM PST by hydrology_joe
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To: hydrology_joe

I actually don’t know if I got it from an email or off the Internet. There’s a couple of different versions but none claiming authorship. I can’t find any versions from before 2007 on Google.


27 posted on 02/03/2008 11:05:17 AM PST by B4Ranch ((Just remember...if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off. ))
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