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Posted on 02/02/2008 6:25:06 PM PST by freedom44
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To: Ciexyz
Because I’m mocking him and his “great” empire? :D
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:12:04 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Ciexyz
Er, the person I’m mocking is freedom44, not Alexander. Thought I’d clear that up.
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:12:43 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
Ever occur to you that maybe they didn’t want to surrender? And if anyone should get the punishment for cutting off the guy’s head it should be the guy who did it. There’s no need to bring in your entire army and slaughter innocent civilians.
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:12:58 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: G8 Diplomat
It was the local Persian caliph that did it, with the specific endorsement of *his* Caliph.
What’s the only way to get to the leader of an empire?
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:16:31 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
Whats the only way to get to the leader of an empire?
Uh, kill him? If they killed the caliph, so what, he deserved it for murdering the ambassador. It's the killing of everyone that I have a problem with. I'm not Persian or Mongol, btw, in case anyone was wondering....
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:17:43 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: G8 Diplomat
By the way, it’s nothing that the Persians themselves didn’t do. See 2nd Naxos.
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:18:48 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: G8 Diplomat
Well, great, kill the caliph. But he’s hiding in a city and he keeps sending his army out to protect him.
What do *you* think is going to happen? :P
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:19:45 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
Well then fight the army. Just not innocent civilians. Can we agree on that?
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:21:03 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: freedom44
The Persians only one - Ahura Mazda. Zoroastranism a faith which led to Judaism, Christianity and Islam.The rise of the Persian empire was way after the time of Abraham.....where do people dig up this garbage.
To: G8 Diplomat
What you’re forgetting is that in that era, there was no such thing as “innocent civilians” in a city siege. All the men would be pressed into the defense of the city; once the opposing forces got inside, all the women would also attack.
“Innocent civilians” is an invention of the post-Renaissance era.
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:22:39 PM PST
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Spktyr
All the men would be pressed into the defense of the city; once the opposing forces got inside, all the women would also attack.
Ohh...I see. Well I guess that would be different then, since they'd have no way of knowing who was forced to fight and who wanted to.
Ok, that's settled. Back to chemistry homework (blah)
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posted on
02/02/2008 7:25:27 PM PST
by
G8 Diplomat
(Creatures are divided into 6 kingdoms: Animalia, Plantae, Fungi, Monera, Protista, & Saudi Arabia)
To: freedom44
Zoroastranism a faith which led to Judaism, Christianity and Islam. WRONG!!!!!
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posted on
02/02/2008 8:23:53 PM PST
by
LiteKeeper
(Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
To: freedom44
Zoroastranism a faith which led to Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
Uh, no. Judaism pre-dates Zoroastranism by quite a bit. Christianity has strong connections to Judaism, though it did come after Zoroastranism. I think Islam was spawned by a bad acid trip. ;-)
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posted on
02/02/2008 9:34:45 PM PST
by
kb2614
(Hell hath no fury than a bureaucrat scorned)
To: freedom44
“accommodate the Hebrews return to their Palestinean homeland.”
The land that we now refer to as Israel, was not called Palestine until the Roman occupation, and that was LONG after the Jews returned from the Babylonian captivity. It seems that there’s a serious deficit of facts in this article.
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posted on
02/02/2008 9:42:14 PM PST
by
BruceysMom
(taking my half out of the middle.)
To: freedom44
That’s all fine and well, but he’s not the “only figure in the Bible to be called the anointed”.
Do you know that Christ means ‘anointed’? Beyond that, if anyone is in Christ, they are also anointed.
So there you go. You’re talking to someone who’s more anointed than Cyrus. Further, any anointing bestowed by God is a shadow of the One True Anointing, the Holy Spirit Himself, Who dwelt in His fullness within the Person of Jesus the Anointed.
As for Cyrus’s alliance with YHWH, Nebuchadnezar (and a list of others) also recognized the Lord’s greatness and preeminence over the kingdoms of world, and Nebuchadnezzar was pretty much demonized. Cyrus’s place in history is due to his humility before the God of Israel.
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posted on
02/03/2008 2:04:56 AM PST
by
ovrtaxt
(No Rudy McRombee for me! I voted for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
To: freedom44
In today's "modern media" the Spartans will more likely be remembered as
the inventors of the "Lazuh" than for anything within an accurate historical context.
An interesting debate. I think the question with regard to the overall impact of Sparta's contribution via resistance to the Persian conquest of Greece is "did they truly protect and preserve the birth of democracy" or is that just a romantic allusion attributed to them because of the courage of the 300 at Thermopylae?
SPARTA!!!!
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posted on
02/03/2008 2:31:08 AM PST
by
Caipirabob
(Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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