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Secrets of the Great Seal of the United States Revealed
Fox News ^ | Tuesday, February 12, 2008 | AP

Posted on 02/12/2008 7:18:25 AM PST by Smelly_Fed

WASHINGTON — Conspiracy theorists take note: The myths surrounding one of America's oldest and most enduring national symbols are about to be debunked ... if you believe the government, that is. The keepers of the Great Seal of the United States, the emblem on the back of the US$1 bill, want you to know what it is not. It is not a sign that Freemasons run the country, it has nothing to do with the occult, and it does not contain clues to a fabulous hidden treasure. It is rather the nation's stamp of authority, sovereignty and power, gracing cash and embossing the most important of documents from its home at the State Department, which has held it since the days of Thomas Jefferson, the first secretary of state. Not that the Seal's symbols — the all-seeing eye, the unfinished pyramid, the Latin phrases, the bald eagle clutching an olive branch and arrows and the number 13 — aren't powerful. They are, historians say. Yet their meanings have been misidentified, misunderstood and misrepresented almost since the Continental Congress first commissioned the Seal in 1776. It would be another six years before the original design was approved and another 128 before it evolved into its current form. Along the way, a movement to decipher the Seal's meaning with ancient Egyptian, mystical and otherwise other worldly explanations has gained currency. The Internet age has seen an explosion in such conspiracy theories, many which have now been ingrained in public consciousness through the popular "National Treasure" movie franchise that serves up a combination of Masonic lore and historical myths in blockbuster Hollywood fashion.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; freemasonry; greatseal; marines; masonic; origins; statedept; symbol; symbols; thomasjefferson; treasury
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Nice of them to let freemasons off the hook after 225 years. What are the conspiracy theorists going to do with themselves now?
1 posted on 02/12/2008 7:18:35 AM PST by Smelly_Fed
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To: Smelly_Fed; uglybiker

Ping for Freemasonry.


2 posted on 02/12/2008 7:19:28 AM PST by Smelly_Fed
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To: Smelly_Fed

Deny


3 posted on 02/12/2008 7:19:58 AM PST by G.Mason (And what is intelligence if not the craft of out-thinking our adversaries?)
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To: Smelly_Fed

That’s just what THEY want you to believe, man. ;-)


4 posted on 02/12/2008 7:20:12 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: uglybiker

ping


5 posted on 02/12/2008 7:20:25 AM PST by mnehring (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: Smelly_Fed

Yeah, that’s what THEY want you to think. :-)


6 posted on 02/12/2008 7:20:42 AM PST by LambSlave
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To: Smelly_Fed

7 posted on 02/12/2008 7:21:53 AM PST by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff”—Ronald Reagan)
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To: Smelly_Fed

Dan Brown is doing his latest novel using some of this stuff. The symbols are interesting, and still hold occult data (the all-seeing eye, for example, symbolizes the “unity” of all consciousness), but to me a dollar is still worth the paper it’s printed on, about 12 cents.


8 posted on 02/12/2008 7:22:09 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: Smelly_Fed
What are the conspiracy theorists going to do with themselves now?

Not to worry. Their latest project is to find clues predicting 9-11 in the Great Seal.

9 posted on 02/12/2008 7:23:37 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Scrape the bottom, vote for Rodham!)
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To: Smelly_Fed

Who are you going to believe? Priscilla Linn or Nicolas Cage?


10 posted on 02/12/2008 7:25:13 AM PST by SittinYonder (Ic t gehate, t ic heonon nelle fleon fotes trym, ac wille furor gan)
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To: Fresh Wind

“Not to worry. Their latest project is to find clues predicting 9-11 in the Great Seal.”

Haven’t you seen that trick where you fold a $20 bill a certain way and it reveals the twin towers buring?


11 posted on 02/12/2008 7:26:03 AM PST by wilco200 (I'm starting the think the entire Republican Party has jumped the shark)
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To: Smelly_Fed

The rendition of the seal at the link is not well executed. They Feds need to hire a decent illustrator to reproduce the excellent engraving found on our currency in a modern color version, if they’re going to do it all at!


12 posted on 02/12/2008 7:26:33 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: wilco200

Here it is...

http://www.foldmoney.com/


13 posted on 02/12/2008 7:27:00 AM PST by wilco200 (I'm starting the think the entire Republican Party has jumped the shark)
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To: BlueStateBlues
The symbols are interesting, and still hold occult data

Symbols are what you want them to be. During the 18th century and prior, when it was rare for the masses to be literate, symbols were used to convey meanings- and few of the meanings were 'occult' (hidden). In some cases, they were used by occultists and the like, but more often than not, they predated the occultic use. The pentagram, for example, is commonly seen as an occultic symbol, but is also used as a symbol of time (8 year cycle), spring, the direction East, etc..

Imagine a time when few were literate, yet messages had to be passed.

14 posted on 02/12/2008 7:27:16 AM PST by mnehring (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: Smelly_Fed

Just another distraction that takes our watchful eye off of the big ball.

Unless you are following the HUGE Congressional Committee hearings on baseball and steroids. Then the distraction is the LITTLE ball.

Stay focused on Congress!!
Their actions speak louder than any words, printed or MSM repeated.


15 posted on 02/12/2008 7:29:04 AM PST by o_zarkman44 (No Bull in 08!)
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To: Smelly_Fed

bookmark


16 posted on 02/12/2008 7:29:33 AM PST by uddaudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The most beautiful is the famous "Signing of The Declaration of Independence" on the back of the $2 bill.

I keep one just to stare at every now and then.

17 posted on 02/12/2008 7:30:14 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Smelly_Fed

I, for one, welcome our new Overlord.

18 posted on 02/12/2008 7:30:26 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Quix
ROSWELL DUMMIES!!!

19 posted on 02/12/2008 7:31:38 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: Smelly_Fed

OK—and while we’re at it, I’d like to hear their explanation for the upside-down stars in HillBillary’s flag, too....

Dick G

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20 posted on 02/12/2008 7:32:53 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: mnehrling

“Imagine a time when few were literate. . .”

Right now, of course. I like your pentagram symbol list, haven’t seen that before.

And look at some the common symbols used today, an elephant for GOP and an ass for the Democrats. They convey perfect descriptions.


21 posted on 02/12/2008 7:33:43 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: BlueStateBlues
The very interesting things about the Pentagram, and probably more important, was the mathematical implications- especially at a time when people didn’t have math class, but were expected to build castles and cathedrals.
22 posted on 02/12/2008 7:39:10 AM PST by mnehring (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

“The rendition of the seal at the link is not well executed.”

“The RENDITION”??!! RENDITION!!

See, it’s all about evil Bush snatching innocent civilians off the streets. I saw it in that movie.


23 posted on 02/12/2008 7:39:17 AM PST by ProfessorGage
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To: Smelly_Fed

Durn! I thought we were speshul.


24 posted on 02/12/2008 7:39:32 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: mnehrling

Walt Disney produced a half hour show on the pentagram in the ‘50s (it’s now sold to teachers) with Donald Duck giving its history and math properties. Actually a great mathematical symbol now stolen by occultists and discredited in people’s minds.


25 posted on 02/12/2008 7:42:41 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: Smelly_Fed

“What are the conspiracy theorists going to do with themselves now?”

I am sure that the 9-11 truthers have some tinfoil hats they could share.


26 posted on 02/12/2008 7:43:11 AM PST by Holicheese (1-21-09 Hillary starts to destroy America!)
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To: Smelly_Fed
It is not a sign that Freemasons run the country,

Shows how little the author knows.

27 posted on 02/12/2008 7:44:12 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Maybe tonight he'll be gone.)
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To: BlueStateBlues
Walt Disney was just indoctrinating our kids into the occult. //sarc

(actually, I remember when I was a kid in the 80s a lot of conspiracies like this)

28 posted on 02/12/2008 7:44:30 AM PST by mnehring (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: mnehrling

Conspiracies will never leave us. The most recent, who was the moron, or conspiracy genius, who put up the Che flag in Obama’s Houston office?


29 posted on 02/12/2008 7:48:36 AM PST by BlueStateBlues (Blue State for business, Red State at heart..)
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To: Smelly_Fed

30 posted on 02/12/2008 7:50:00 AM PST by SuperSonic (Bush "lied", people dyed.......their fingers purple.)
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To: Smelly_Fed

They’ll find something to do. Campaign for Ron Paul, most likely.


31 posted on 02/12/2008 7:50:31 AM PST by Understated
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To: Smelly_Fed

Uhhh claim this is as much a sham as any of the other Gov’t coverups - Kennedy assassination, Project Bluebook, Roswell, etc...


32 posted on 02/12/2008 7:50:42 AM PST by SengirV
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To: CholeraJoe
Well if so, I'm still waiting for the keys to the super duper locked cabinet of world domination and predicted bingo numbers. Except there is no cabinet, although I could surely use a better bingo card.
33 posted on 02/12/2008 7:50:58 AM PST by Smelly_Fed
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To: SuperSonic

Nice parlor trick. I could do the same and make a Mickey Mouse head.


34 posted on 02/12/2008 7:52:00 AM PST by Smelly_Fed
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To: SuperSonic
The funny thing about that is that if you follow the correct path of the word Mason, it doesn’t follow the star pattern. Just another Rorschach test.
35 posted on 02/12/2008 7:52:23 AM PST by mnehring (Make your plans to fit the circumstances. - General George S. Patton, Jr)
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To: Smelly_Fed

Or the Powerball winning number predictor.


36 posted on 02/12/2008 7:55:03 AM PST by CholeraJoe (Maybe tonight he'll be gone.)
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To: Smelly_Fed
Two conspiracy theorists die and go to Heaven.

After they'd been wandering around the gold paved streets for a few weeks, who should they bump into but God, Himself?

So they get to chatting with God, and finally one of them screws up enough courage to ask Him, "So God? Would you tell us what is the real truth behind the JFK assassination?"

God looks at him for a moment and says, "OK, but you really won't like it. Lee Harvey Oswald, acting alone, shot JFK. Jack Ruby, acting alone, shot Lee Harvey Oswald."

Dead silence.

Finally one conspiracy theorist turns to the other and whispers. "The conspiracy is deeper than we thought."...

37 posted on 02/12/2008 7:56:34 AM PST by null and void (President Hillary! Clinton? Time to invest in body bags. Again...)
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To: gunnyg
for the upside-down stars in HillBillary’s flag, too....

Ok, now that is a little weard.

38 posted on 02/12/2008 8:01:12 AM PST by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: ClearCase_guy

39 posted on 02/12/2008 8:02:43 AM PST by naturalized ("The time has come," He said. "The kingdom of God is near. Repent and believe the good news!")
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To: null and void
VIsit the Library of Congress. I believe Franklin gives a dissertation on the symbols of the Great Seal.

But over and over again, GW is referred to as presented at affairs "Of Masonic Style"....even after his death.

There is no way you can dissasociate GW and Masonry.

40 posted on 02/12/2008 8:03:07 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: G.Mason; Smelly_Fed

“Deny”

Exactly.

Conspiracy theorists are people of faith. They believe their pet theory, they have invested an awful lot of time and energy and sense of personal worth into that theory. Cold hard facts are not going to change any of that. Sorry, but that is Human nature. Faith trumps fact :)


41 posted on 02/12/2008 8:07:15 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: Sacajaweau
There is no way you can dissasociate GW and Masonry.

I don't think the article is trying to disassociate George Washington and Freemasonry. It only suggests that GW had little if anything to do with the design of the Great Seal.
42 posted on 02/12/2008 8:08:40 AM PST by Smelly_Fed
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To: null and void

LOL! Nice one!


43 posted on 02/12/2008 8:09:42 AM PST by Vanders9
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To: TLI

Weird it is...

I have wondered why this photo has not stirred some interest on the part of some of the writers who would usually have something to say about this; and, did into it for an explanation from the Hillary...people?

Matter of fact, I have e-mailed a couple dozen writers whose articles are often seen posted here in cyberspace—no takers.
Wondering why there is a hands off on this topic.


44 posted on 02/12/2008 8:12:53 AM PST by gunnyg
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To: wilco200
Haven’t you seen that trick where you fold a $20 bill a certain way and it reveals the twin towers buring?

I personally like the "T!ts of America" trick.

45 posted on 02/12/2008 8:26:13 AM PST by jmc813 (Ron Paul is the only pro-lifer/non-gun grabber left running for President)
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To: Smelly_Fed; Chode; TheLion; AxelPaulsenJr; jimt; Eric in the Ozarks; oldtimer; pt17; ...
Smelly_Fed,mnehrling. Thanks for the PINGS!

Nice of them to let freemasons off the hook after 225 years.

The ruse worked!

Silly humans. ;-)


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46 posted on 02/12/2008 8:45:11 AM PST by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. In fact, I'm enjoying every minute of it.)
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To: evets

Which did

NOT BEGIN

to be used until about 5 years AFTER the Roswell incident.

The AirForce made itself look very stupid with their contention about the dummies.


47 posted on 02/12/2008 9:05:22 AM PST by Quix (GOD ALONE IS GOD; WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS COMING AGAIN; KNOWS ALL; IS LOVING; IS ALTOGETHER GOOD)
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To: Smelly_Fed

I’m waiting for a call to boycott money.


48 posted on 02/12/2008 9:08:26 AM PST by purpleraine
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To: Smelly_Fed
Unfortunately, we foreigners cannot be so naive:

Mexico

Italy

Interesting the Howard Hunt's testimony.
49 posted on 02/12/2008 9:30:20 AM PST by J Aguilar (Veritas vos liberabit)
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To: uglybiker

I told you they would sucker for it! :-)


50 posted on 02/12/2008 9:37:14 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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