Angry programmers riot, shouting 'Death to India'

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[chordmaster]

SAN JOSE, CA (TDR) - Hundreds of angry programmers took to the streets burning Indian flags, and chanting anti-Indian slogans after Wednesday morning production meetings. The protesters - mostly young males - have reached a boiling point after years of technological imperialism and failed Indian programming policies. Busy midday traffic came to a halt as this once proud high-tech mecca was transformed into raging, socially-challenged powder keg of humanity...

[Perdogg]

[Zuben Elgenubi]

Heh heh.

Some experts fear this mock violence may soon escalate into actual bloodshed. "When it comes to deep seeded traditions and beliefs, emotion could overcome common sense." said Edward Cullhagy, professor of Inter-Cultural Technology at Howyflyl University.

[MNJohnnie]

You will love this one.

[Izzy Dunne]

BEHEAD those who say programming isn’t peaceful!

[Zuben Elgenubi]

The writing is particularly good.

The protest took an ugly turn when several young men paraded a life sized replica of Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh through the crowd. Angry programmers - some as young as 13 - proceeded to beat the mannequin mercilessly with C++ manuals, then set it ablaze as the throng cheered on.

[BGHater]

Careful, this is the net, someone might believe this. Somewhere.

[catbertz]

I’m surprised large groups of disaffected workers from some of America’s industrial base haven’t rioted already. Steel workers, auto workers, etc.

[AndrewC]

Oh the horrors!!!

NOT. I smell an onion.

[FoxInSocks]

Hee-hee.

[Hunble]

With my previous company, I and the only other U.S. citizen programmer were fired from our jobs because of this situation.

That company hired programmers from both India and Russia.

A year later, the company closed down because they could never get the software to work. They had fired the only two people that understood the problem!

[Resolute Conservative]

Microsoft tech support ?

[hosepipe]

The Stampede of the programmer Sheep..
(that are democrats)..

[AndrewC]

Careful, this is the net, someone might believe this. Somewhere.

That place is called democraticunderground.

[Zuben Elgenubi]

Michigan comes to mind. They actually were the only state with a net loss of population in the USA. Not to hijack this particularly good thread, I’m surprised the governor, senators and congressmen of Michigan get elected over and over again, all D’s.

[FUMETTI]

Sounds like Dell’s tech help. I would rather buy a new computer than call their technical support. Yet McCain loves NAFTA.

[Jedi Master Pikachu]

general/chat?

[Holicheese]

“burning their C++ manuals.”

Great stuff. You can only push a programmer so far before he tears off his wrist brace and takes it to the streets!

[Red Badger]

Frustrated Programmers ping!............

[ShadowAce]

[ari-freedom]

first people blame mexico for stealing jobs, then canada...nobody wants to blame themselves for not being able to compete with the rest of the world.

[The_Republican]

I am assuming this website is like ‘Onion’.

[martin_fierro]

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[cinives]

It’s tough to compete with someone who only charges $5 per hour and doesn’t have nearly the regulations and taxes of this country.

Sure, I blame myself for electing idiots to Congress who try to make it difficult for businesses in this country to compete.

[The Duke]

first people blame mexico for stealing jobs, then canada...nobody wants to blame themselves for not being able to compete with the rest of the world.

I work hard to compete with these people every day. It's disheartening, however, when I learn that my international (Indian) competitors are being subsidized by their government.

[chaos_5]

rofl, nice find!

[OpusatFR]

Just sent it to my engineer kids.

They will love it!

[T-Bird45]

Was that the Dell help desk staff in the photo? You know, John, Bob, and Mary?

[CORedneck]

As mentioned before, I worked for a major DoD contractor. I read one of their newsletters before I laid off and it mentioned they are sending a lot of work over to India now. I don't know how they get around the security clearance type of laws but I am concerned. I am sure with an across the board democrat gov't coming in November, it will happen much more. We are the only country in the world that will not defend our own workers and in fact, sell them out.

Last night, I was talking with some people and one of the things that come in mind is how customer service really sucks ! Go to any store, there is no one to help you on the floor, when you get ready to pay for the items and get out, there are one or two lines open and the checkout line is very long. Wal-Mart is a good example and one of the reasons I will not shop there. I have been to New Zealand and Japan and I found customer service at their stores (not Wal-Mart) were pretty good especially in Japan. I have been to the Tokyu Dept Store which is the same company that runs the trains and their service was pretty good. A lot of help and the prices were reasonable. In my opinion, until service improves, the executive salaries can be used to hire better help which will get better business, therefore better value for shareholders. These executives and their rubber stamp boards need to be run out of town.

[djf]

Lol!

Some truth to it, though. If you go out to the tech web site forums and read the questions, you see quite a few from people who are obviously not based in the USA, most likely based in India.

And many of the questions they ask are the most rudimentary type you can find.

[ari-freedom]

they also care about their education, unlike most fruits of our public school system

[Jack Black]

The current Gov. of Michigan is in her first term, I believe. The Republican who ran against her was part of the Amway family fortune, and a very religious conservative. I believe his beliefs were successfully made out to be “extreme”, and he lost. My mom lived there, so I used to have a bit of an in on it.

[familyop]

"It’s tough to compete with someone who only charges $5 per hour and doesn’t have nearly the regulations and taxes of this country."

Sincerely, show me a foreign contractor who charges $5 per hour for C++ code. The lowest I've seen is $20. ...assuming PHP and the like fall into another category (server hogs).

[ex-snook]

“In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;

And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;

And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;

And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.”

[BubbaBasher]

Sounds like Dell’s tech help. I would rather buy a new computer than call their technical support. Yet McCain loves NAFTA.

FYI, the NA in NAFTA stands for "North American". It has nothing to do with tech jobs being outsourced to India.

[ctdonath2]

A friend considers that among the most violent scenes ever depicted on film.

[Hunble]

Today, I we had a "dog an pony show" for some customers.

With our competitors, they send their images to India to be process. After a few months, the customer will receive the final product.

They were absolutely amazed today, as they watch my software process the images in only one minute! As they stood around my computer, they could see the results live, as the images were being processed.

Instead of months, their final product could be obtained within an hour.

This is the difference between Indian programmers and U.S. software engineers.

We know how to make it work!

[familyop]

"they also care about their education, unlike most fruits of our public school system"

The public school system that is sponsored by Our Kids Against Your Kids, the same people who sponsor media broadcasts and use third world slaves for labor.

Interviewer: Why is your company so involved in public education, even filing briefs in favor of affirmative action?

CEO: Because my sister is a school administrator, my cousin...well, she's a university instructor,...

[w1andsodidwe]

Gee, I was in downtown San Jose on Wednesday at a conference filled with young male programmers and the few odd old woman programmers like myself. It really was rather boring, with 3 and 4 letter acronyms being freely thrown around, accompanied by the sound of ohs and ahs by the male participants. I really with I could have found this protest, I would have gladly participated. Lol

[ari-freedom]

Amway... hmmm not such a good idea to run a candidate with such connections

[ari-freedom]

that’s the competition that will win in the market. You don’t need to be coddled like a baby by the govt.

[Hunble]

few odd old woman programmers like myself.

Women like you make me proud to be a member of your profession.

Giggle, although I personally argued with Bill Gates back in 1976, we respected each other and changed the world.

I dropped out of college because the teachers did not have a clue about this new technology.

When I was teaching the teachers, college became useless to me.

[FUMETTI]

It only seems that when that kicked in, American tech help seemed all of a sudden seemed to be replaced by the Indians with their lousy knowledge of English and computers.

[FUMETTI]

Compete at what...giving Indians pennies for giving lousy technical support to Dell customers?

[indcons]

BTTT - good point. Salaries and hourly rates in India are not as low as people here think they are. Additionally, with the falling $, the “potential” savings from outsourcing aren’t as rosy as before.

[MrB]

I’ve heard that a lot of companies have had to come back around to their American programmers after either outsourcing or hiring a bunch of foreign tech people.

I have had mixed experience with foreign programmers. The biggest thing that I can say is that they either won’t follow directions, or won’t do anything other than what you tell them to do, nothing in the middle like “use your own discretion and creativity within these criteria.”

[banjo joe]

It’s tough to compete with someone who only charges $5 per hour and doesn’t have nearly the regulations and taxes of this country.

Word.

Yep, it's a global economy now. If we want to live 20 to a two bedroom apartment or single-wide trailer, if we want to ride a dozen to a mini-van, then we will compete with the rest of the world.

The tax structure and regulatory burden are killing us.

Send your children to law school; maybe we can sue the third world to get our competitive edge back.

[MrB]

Money making opportunity:

Teach Indian tech support people to talk with a Texas accent.

[Eva]

A friend of mine’s brother-in-law, used to run the California call center for VISA, until they outsourced it to India. Less than a year later, they hired him back, along with his assistant with a very large pay increase. Actually, I think that he may be working as a consultant, naming his own pay.

[Hunble]

won’t do anything other than what you tell them to do

Foreign programmers have no choice but to do exactly what they are told to do.

I make the impossible become reality, because I refuse to follow directions and never allow anyone to tell me something can not be done.

I have been fighting the system for 35 years now, and I always win.