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Home gardening offers ways to trim grocery costs [Survival Today, an on going thread]
Dallas News.com ^ | March 14th, 2008 | DEAN FOSDICK

Posted on 03/23/2008 11:36:40 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

Americans finding soaring food prices hard to stomach can battle back by growing their own food. [Click image for a larger version] Dean Fosdick Dean Fosdick

Home vegetable gardens appear to be booming as a result of the twin movements to eat local and pinch pennies.

At the Southeastern Flower Show in Atlanta this winter, D. Landreth Seed Co. of New Freedom, Pa., sold three to four times more seed packets than last year, says Barb Melera, president. "This is the first time I've ever heard people say, 'I can grow this more cheaply than I can buy it in the supermarket.' That's a 180-degree turn from the norm."

Roger Doiron, a gardener and fresh-food advocate from Scarborough, Maine, said he turned $85 worth of seeds into more than six months of vegetables for his family of five.

A year later, he says, the family still had "several quarts of tomato sauce, bags of mixed vegetables and ice-cube trays of pesto in the freezer; 20 heads of garlic, a five-gallon crock of sauerkraut, more homegrown hot-pepper sauce than one family could comfortably eat in a year and three sorts of squash, which we make into soups, stews and bread."

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She compares the current period of market uncertainty with that of the early- to mid-20th century when the concept of victory gardens became popular.

"A lot of companies during the world wars and the Great Depression era encouraged vegetable gardening as a way of addressing layoffs, reduced wages and such," she says. "Some companies, like U.S. Steel, made gardens available at the workplace. Railroads provided easements they'd rent to employees and others for gardening."

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To: Wneighbor

And I have a select few friends who are either fellow planners or close enough friends that I would take them in because I know they work and do their part.<<<

That says it all and you are lucky that you have friends who will pull their own weight.

Dr. Bill has said several times to use laundry soap, most of the girl type products have extra oils in them, which will bind the nuclear particles to you, rather than washing them away.


9,851 posted on 02/06/2009 8:21:13 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor

I don’t know about later planting for the malabar, I always planted it when I thought of it and it will need to be started in the summer warmth, to have over winter months.


9,852 posted on 02/06/2009 8:23:15 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor

Good grief! And it just dawned on me that I forgot to mention the pennies again! DOH!!!! <<<

Well there is an excuse for another visit.

Thank you for being so special and helping folks, they are blessed for knowing you.

Glad the dinner went well, it sounded so good, in your other post.

Have you thought of making pickles out of the veggies that are extra, maybe with a hot pepper in them?


9,853 posted on 02/06/2009 8:30:00 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor

I am still taking jars of the sweet green tomato pickles and chow chow to my friend every time she runs out, so she’s still eating a bit of produce from her husband’s efforts. <<<

I am smiling.

There is so much to learn about people and we never know it all.

If a man is not from the south, he would have no idea of all the recipes that we make from green tomatoes, I even like them cooked like fried squash, dipped in corn meal or flour first.


9,854 posted on 02/06/2009 8:35:16 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: metmom; Wneighbor

LOL, how well I remember.

Bill had few requirements for his food, but he did not like to eat a sandwich and for dinner, it was rare that I served them.

He never understood, how I could be in the kitchen all day, canning or stocking the freezer, and not have something for him to eat.

Once when I was pretty sick, my mother came to help.

She was a pie baker, so fine we liked pies, but Bill really was needing real food and he was a hard worker and his body wanted it.

He had been doing the best that he could for a couple weeks and the kids were not really old enough to cook.

Mom cooked all day.....several kind of pies and then fed him hot dogs for dinner.


9,855 posted on 02/06/2009 8:40:18 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor

When I bought my first 10 cent packs of seeds at the dollar store, I did some digging in my old books and the current lists, as a friend and I had agreed that if we were to have a garden in this valley, it had to be the old varieties, maybe not the heirloom seeds, but at least a type that they saved seeds from and had grown enough years to survive.

I found many of the 10 cent seeds listed as ‘old varieties’, even read on one forum a person’s advice to not buy the old varieties at the dollar store, as there were so many wonderful hybrids out now.....LOL

To me new is not better, except, my bread machine pleases me, LOL, it is 10 years old.


9,856 posted on 02/06/2009 8:45:50 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor

I moved my radios to a high shelf, just below the ceiling. <<<

You are right, it won’t work for me.

I will consider any advise that you get.


9,857 posted on 02/06/2009 8:52:44 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: metmom

http://www.territorialseed.com/

I had one of their catalogs and used it as a reference book, it is amazing the information in it.

I don’t think that I ever ordered from them.


9,858 posted on 02/06/2009 8:55:06 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Another use for diamotaceous earth is to kill intestinal worms. I give it to my cats mixed in their food, cured one fellow of a big ole worm that was making him very sick. Took about two weeks of giving him the DE. Now I mix it in their food most every day. It can be eaten by people as well, for worms. The place I learned it from - http://www.wolfcreekranch.net/ - is an animal rescue place, and the people who work there take DE since they’re working around and cleaning up animals all the time, sick and well.

I took it for a few months “just in case” when we purchased it. No change in my health, so I must not have had any worms!

It can also be rubbed into the animals’ coats to kill fleas, my cats have no fleas now, and also put in their bedding. It’s not good to breathe the dust, that’s all.


9,859 posted on 02/06/2009 9:00:28 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: All

Philippines Executive Order! Rolling Out The Backyard Food Production Programs In The Urban Areas

Friday, February 6, 2009 7:00 AM
From:
“Michael Levenston”

I, Gloria M. Arroyo, President of the Philippines, by the power vested in me by
law, do hereby order - Rolling Out The Backyard Food Production Programs In The
Urban Areas - January 16, 2009
Malacañang, Manila

By The President Of The Philippines

Executive Order No. 776

Rolling Out The Backyard Food Production Programs In The Urban Areas
WHEREAS, two-thirds of the world is in recession, though the Philippines is not;

WHEREAS, it is not business as usual; government agencies must hit the round running;

WHEREAS, the government should take advantage of the window of opportunity, i.e.

declining inflation and interest rates and good weather;
WHEREAS, the government has committed Three Hundred Billion Pesos (P300,000,000,000.00)

to economic stimulus programs, including comprehensive livelihood and emergency
employment program (CLEEP), that will save or create millions of new jobs.

WHEREAS, part of CLEEP consists of backyard food production programs like Gulayan
ng Masa and the Integrated Services for Livelihood Advancement (ISLA) for subsistence
fisherfolk.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, GLORIA M. ARROYO,
President of the Philippines, by the power
vested in me by law, do hereby order:

See the complete document on our web site.
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9,860 posted on 02/06/2009 11:46:48 PM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: Wneighbor
Hmmm that is one I have not tried (yet).

This is one recipe I found - Cantaloupe Jam

Cantaloupe (very ripe) Chunk, cook and mash

3/4 pound (1.8 cups) granulated sugar per pound of cantaloupe

1/2 teaspoon each ginger, mace and cinnamon

If I were making it, I would increase the cinnamon (good blood sugar regulator - and I like the taste) and I would add either 1 teaspoon of lemon juice or one crushed 1000 mg of vitamin C (ascorbic acid) which does 3 things - improves color - acidifies the jam for safer storage - good anti-oxidant.

I would cook it to the jelling temperature using a thermometer (that is water boiling point plus 8 degrees F. to altitude/barometric pressure adjust, bring a pot of water to boiling and check the temp. then add 8 degrees to that. This is kind of a handy rule of thumb that has worked well for me without adding the SureJell - pectin - which is not only expensive, but I don't keep a stock of it on hand and never seem to have any when I need it. Also, I don't have to make a lot of small batches - seems to work in larger batches of jam/jelly.)

Pour it hot into the sterile jars, wipe top edge of jars and put lids on (bring lids to about a low boil in water first)tighten bands and waterbath them for 10 minutes. (note: remove them from the water - don't take the shortcut of just leaving them to cool in the water - kills some of the seals - same thing in pressure cooker too.)

9,861 posted on 02/07/2009 3:35:44 AM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Granny, that plant was owned by Conagra a mega conglomerate corporation into just about anything to make the bucks.


9,862 posted on 02/07/2009 3:41:27 AM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: nw_arizona_granny
Wouldn't it be great if the White House planted a garden in the South Lawn like Eleanor Roosevelt did.

But, somehow I can't see Michelle 0bama doing that.

Ok, regarding the cheap pkts. of seed - They are the way that inventories are balanced in the seed industry - note that they say 'Packed for 2009 season' does not say produced in 2008 for 2009 season, as long as they meet the State required germination percentage, they can be sold that way. Many are varieties that just didn't sell well enough - therefore the older varieties show up.

Producing those hybrid seeds is a very labor intensive industry, so guess where many of them are produced... India has a huge hybrid seed production industry.

9,863 posted on 02/07/2009 4:07:15 AM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: little jeremiah

I had a friend sprinkle DE into her bluebird house nests because the blowflies were killing the hatchlings and she said she had a much better survival rate.


9,864 posted on 02/07/2009 4:33:28 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I found this on FOXNews.com today.

List of Recalled Peanut Products

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,489015,00.html


9,865 posted on 02/07/2009 4:34:55 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All
Seeds may not be the only thing in short supply.

Over the last decade or two, such companies as Ball Kerr Mason Golden Harvest, etc. (all canning jars) have been bought up by Jarden Corporation. They have been selling way more jars than normal.

For the quarter ended March 31, 2008, net sales increased 48% to $1.2 billion

"While the first quarter is traditionally Jarden's seasonally smallest quarter, our performance was in line with our expectations and a good start to achieving our full year outlook," said Martin E. Franklin, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Jarden Corporation.

Full year revenue for 2008 is expected to be approximately $5.35 billion.

I'm not trying to say that we should be 'panic buying' of canning jars, but a goodly supply would surely be reassuring.

9,866 posted on 02/07/2009 4:42:56 AM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: metmom

Scary to think one processing plant has that broad of an impact!


9,867 posted on 02/07/2009 4:51:51 AM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: DelaWhere

I can’t wait to get to Jackie’s site, one could be there for weeks I imagine. :)

I think if I cleaned out some of the cupboards I have in other rooms with non-essential stuff I would have room for jars.

That’s a good way to watch the longer races, lol as they tend to be somewhat boring at times. At least the 1 1/2 milers are with the new car. The Shootout tonight will be a different story. Short and wild.


9,868 posted on 02/07/2009 5:04:16 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: Wneighbor

Computers definitely can be frustrating. Mine loves to freeze up when I have the screen capture on for races. But, that little number with the keyboard was very strange. I guess I won’t buy anymore at the thrift shop. :)


9,869 posted on 02/07/2009 5:06:00 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: nw_arizona_granny; NYTexan

Pinging NYT - Do you have a solution to granny’s problem. You are the computer whiz after all. :D


9,870 posted on 02/07/2009 5:06:58 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: DelaWhere

Mr. mm complains about the number of canning jars I have.

A good source for someone wanting to add more is garage sales or an older neighbor or relative who no longer cans.


9,871 posted on 02/07/2009 5:13:21 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DelaWhere; nw_arizona_granny; All

Investing in a good pressure canner is also worthwhile.

It’s very worthwhile for vegetables and meat and soup.

I know a lot of people are hesitant to use them and I actually never stay in the kitchen while it’s going. I check the gauge periodically once it’s up to pressure, but don’t STAY in the kitchen.

The one I got was through Lehman Non-Electric Catalog, another place that sells stuff for do-it-yourselfers. It’s an Amish place.

http://www.lehmans.com/


9,872 posted on 02/07/2009 5:19:47 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Considering that Monsanto article I posted above, things are really looking scary.

If things got very bad people would have to hide their gardens as though they were pot.


9,873 posted on 02/07/2009 5:25:13 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

There was a map at that site that shows the states that already have the law.

I’m off to work in a few - BB about 3:30.

My thrift shopping was fruitful the other day. I got a $180.00 Brighton handbag for $15.00 and a pair of shoes that still had the price of $80.00 for $3.00. :D

However, I am still looking for the food dehydrator that will be much more useful in the future. I have other thrift shoppers looking for me.


9,874 posted on 02/07/2009 5:28:58 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: DelaWhere
I'm not trying to say that we should be 'panic buying' of canning jars, but a goodly supply would surely be reassuring.

We've been finding used ones here and there for a couple of years now. My sister beat me to my moms jars last fall. Mom is just not able to can anymore. I may have to resort to canning in the old blue and green mason jars we've been able to get. We also invested in a cavernous freezer last fall. Now I have to get a generator, just in case.

9,875 posted on 02/07/2009 5:41:44 AM PST by TnGOP (Petey the dog is my foriegn policy advisor. He's really quite good!)
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To: WestCoastGal
" Amendment struck down - ACORN will get their 4.1 Billion.

11:03 - David Vitter (R-LA) Proposed amendment to strip the 4.1 Billion designed for ACORN."

Things are going to get very bad sooner rather than later I'm afraid.

9,876 posted on 02/07/2009 5:45:56 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: DelaWhere; nw_arizona_granny

I bought my seeds from Baker Creek Seeds last year. They are all heirloom seeds, open pollinated, and most are rare. One variety, the “Old Tennessee Muskmelon”, yielded me over a dozen muskmelons, each weighing in at 12 - 14 pounds, and a taste to remember. Baker Creek can be found at www.rareseeds.com. Warning: Highly addictive - too many good choices - Hard to make a decision.


9,877 posted on 02/07/2009 5:50:41 AM PST by TnGOP (Petey the dog is my foriegn policy advisor. He's really quite good!)
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To: WestCoastGal
Methinks you are absolutely right!

Did you hear the latest from our Delaware 'Loose Cannon'?

He was soooo reassuring when he said that if 0bama and he do everything right there was still a 30% chance that the economy would go down the drain. Now what do you think the chances are that they will do 'everything right'? Based on their record so far, my calculator says 99.99999% chance.

9,878 posted on 02/07/2009 6:09:49 AM PST by DelaWhere (I'm a Klingon - Clinging to guns and Bible - Putting Country First - Preparing for the Worst!!!)
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To: TnGOP

Oh Oh - saving for later.........:D Loving these seed catalogs.


9,879 posted on 02/07/2009 6:19:07 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: All

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
February 5, 2009
Release #09-119

Firm’s Recall Hotline: (800) 704-3595
CPSC Recall Hotline: (800) 638-2772
CPSC Media Contact: (301) 504-7908

Intermatic Recalls Digital Timers Due to Shock Hazard

WASHINGTON, D.C. - The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, in cooperation with the firm named below, today announced a voluntary recall of the following consumer product. Consumers should stop using recalled products immediately unless otherwise instructed.

Name of Product: Intermatic DT17 Heavy Duty Digital Timers

Units: About 200,000

Importer: Intermatic Inc., of Spring Grove, Ill.

Manufacturer: Computime Ltd., of China

Hazard: The recalled timers can have a faulty ground connection, posing a shock hazard to consumers.

Incidents/Injuries: None reported.

Description: The recalled Intermatic DT17 heavy-duty digital timers are lamp and appliance timers. They were packaged as the “DT17C Heavy Duty Digital Timer” and the “DT17C8 Heavy Duty Digital Timer.” The timer is white-colored and measures 3 3/8” tall x 2 5/8” wide x 1 5/8” deep. Only products with date codes of “40Z” through “52Z” or date codes ending in “A,” “B” or “C” are included in the recall. The brand name “Intermatic” is molded on the front of the timer, and the model number (”DT17”) and date code are printed on the back of the timer.

Sold at: Retailers and electrical distributors nationwide from September 2005 through December 2008 for between $15 and $25.

Manufactured in: China

Remedy: Consumers should unplug the timer immediately and contact Intermatic to obtain a free replacement including shipping.

Consumer Contact: For additional information, call Intermatic at (800) 704-3585 anytime, or visit the firm’s Web site at www.intermatic.com

To see this recall on CPSC’s web site, including pictures of the recall product, please go to: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml09/09119.html


9,880 posted on 02/07/2009 6:20:28 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

I’m not sure which is a bigger idiot.

Also, I just read they are trying to give DC statehood - I guess they’ve trashed the Constitution so much that they think they can do anything at this point.


9,881 posted on 02/07/2009 6:22:01 AM PST by WestCoastGal (If we will hold the course, God in Heaven will raise up friends to help fight these battles.P Henry)
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To: WestCoastGal; nw_arizona_granny

If the radio is pluged into an elictrical outlet this may help:

http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic.php?topic=24349&forum=65&keyword2=electronics

Your confuser may have a noisey power supply. In that case distance is yer friend!


9,882 posted on 02/07/2009 6:36:23 AM PST by NYTexan
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To: All

FUNGAL DISEASES, TREE CROPS - USA
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A ProMED-mail post
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International Society for Infectious Diseases
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[1] Laurel wilt, avocado - Florida
[2] Thousand cankers disease, walnut - Idaho
[3] Septoria leaf spot, pistachio - New Mexico

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[1] Laurel wilt, avocado - Florida
Date: Mon 26 Jan 2009
Source: University of Florida News [edited]
http://news.ufl.edu/2009/01/26/avocado/

New disease may cost Florida’s avocado industry millions


Florida’s avocado industry could lose millions of dollars if a new
disease reaches the state’s southern tip, according to University of
Florida [UF] experts. Laurel wilt disease [LW], caused by a fungus
transmitted by the invasive redbay ambrosia beetle [RAB], kills
avocado and several native trees including redbay, said Jonathan Crane, UF.

UF researchers are scrambling to develop damage estimates and
management strategies. They have evaluated about 30 percent of the 28
avocado varieties grown in Florida; all have been susceptible to the
disease, though not all have died, said Jorge Pena, an entomologist
at UF. For controlling the fungus or the beetle, researchers are
testing pesticides and repellents, Pena said.

Some redbay trees may be resistant to the disease, said UF forest
pathologist Jason Smith. Researchers will investigate factors
associated with resistance, in the hope that tolerant varieties can
be identified.

The disease was unknown until 2004. The beetle, first found in the US
in 2002, is native to Asia and may have arrived in wood products.
Laurel wilt is in South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida. “The disease
is moving fairly rapidly, so it will arrive in Miami sooner or
later,” said Randy Ploetz, a UF plant pathologist.

LW apparently spreads at least 2 ways, Crane said. One is via the
beetle, which expands its range 20 or 30 miles [32-48 km] per year.
Also, because the disease has leapfrogged around the state,
researchers believe beetle-infested firewood has been sold, he said.

LW symptoms include wilted stems and leaves, black streaking in the
wood, and strings of compacted sawdust protruding from tree trunks.
Department of Agriculture & Consumer Services [DOACS] are monitoring
several counties for RAB, said DPI [DOACS Division of Plant Industry].

There’s more at stake than the avocado industry. LW has killed 99
percent of infected redbay trees in many areas, said Smith. Other
species are also at risk. Smith developed a test that identifies
diseased trees in less than an hour, even if the fungus is present in
small amounts. The test will be available to diagnostic labs.

[Byline: Tom Nordlie]


Communicated by:
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promed@promedmail.org

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[2] Thousand cankers disease, walnut - Idaho
Date: Thu 15 Jan 2009
Source: Idaho Statesman [edited]
http://www.idahostatesman.com/life/story/633149.html

Deadly walnut disease hits Treasure Valley


A disease called “thousand cankers” has been detected in walnut trees
in Boise, according to Debbie Cook, community forestry arborist.

The disease is a circulation-blocking fungus spread by walnut twig
beetles native to the American Southwest. No effective cure has been
found. This disease can kill a mature tree in a year or less. It has
wiped out walnut trees on the eastern slope of the Rocky Mountains.
It mainly affects black walnut trees, but English walnut trees also
are vulnerable.

Symptoms of the disease are yellowing, wilting, and browning of
foliage, as if the tree were drought-stressed. These symptoms usually
show up first at the top of the tree and progress downward rapidly.
Leaves that turn brown often remain attached to the twig or branch
after it dies. Trees that showed symptoms in fall may leaf out in
spring, then quickly exhibit symptoms of the fungus infection and
die, or they may not leaf out at all.

The beetles could have spread northward naturally, or they may have
been transported in firewood. Avoiding damaging the bark will help
maintain tree health. Some experts say pesticides applied
systemically can help by killing the beetles, but it must be applied
before the tree is infected.

[Byline: Margaret Lauterbach]


Communicated by:
ProMED-mail
promed@promedmail.org

******
[3] Septoria leaf spot, pistachio - New Mexico
Date: Wed 14 Jan 2009
Source: New Mexico State University News Release [edited]
http://www.nmsu.edu/~ucomm/Releases/2009/january/pistachio_leafspot.htm

NMSU finds first-ever leaf spot in New Mexico pistachios


Scientists at New Mexico State University [NMSU] have identified
septoria leaf spot, a fungal disease, in Otero, Hidalgo, Luna, and
Dona Ana counties’ pistachio trees. The disease is common in other
states where pistachios are grown but has never before been
documented in New Mexico. NMSU will hold a workshop about minimizing
its effects.

The septoria fungus creates small, brown lesions on the leaves. If
enough lesions are present, the tree will have difficulty
photosynthesizing. The fungus does not directly affect the fruit, but
can have a negative effect on yield. Each of the 20 southern New
Mexico pistachio orchards tested by NMSU has been positive for
septoria. Natalie Goldberg, NMSU plant pathologist, believes the
fungus has been present in the state for years.

“It’s of concern,” said Richard Heerema, an NMSU extension
specialist. “The fungal disease is very much weather driven. With our
dry climate we typically don’t see these sorts of things.” He said
the fungus thrives in wet weather. He believes a string of wet
summers have increased its severity in the region, perhaps explaining
why it had gone undetected.

“Because of the level of infection, we need to pay attention to it,”
Goldberg said. “There are some low-risk fungicides available, but
that’s an added input for growers.” She said a relatively dry growing
season could significantly reduce the amount of septoria.

“One of the most important aspects is good sanitation, such as raking
and destroying fallen leaves,” said Elizabeth Gordon, Otero County
extension agent. “Those leaves contain the fungus and will produce
spores that will re-infect the new leaves.” She said many growers
incorporate old leaves into the soil, which ordinarily is a good
practice but not with septoria present.

If [infected] trees are left untreated, they become weakened and more
susceptible to other diseases and could eventually die. This strain
of septoria is pistachio-specific and will not affect other types of
trees. Previously, septoria has been found in Texas and Arizona.

[Byline: Justin Bannister]


Communicated by:
ProMED-mail
promed@promedmail.org

[Laurel wilt (LW) is a vascular disease affecting species in the
family _Lauraceae_. It is caused by a new fungus, _Raffaelea
lauricola_, described in 2008. LW is spread by the redbay ambrosia
beetle (_Xyleborus glabratus_), which is native to India, Japan,
Myanmar, and Taiwan. Since 2003, LW has caused widespread mortality
of redbay (_Persea borbonia_) in Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida
and has recently also been found on avocado (_Persea americana_).

Thousand cankers is considered a disease complex involving fungal
species of genus _Geosmithia_ and possibly also _Fusarium_. It is
spread by the walnut twig beetle (_Pityophthorus juglandis_) with
subsequent canker development around beetle galleries. This beetle is
native to North America and belongs to the same family
(_Curculionidae_, snout and bark beetles) as the LW vector. This
insect-fungus association is considered to represent a new and
significant threat to walnut species (genus _Juglans_).

Septoria leaf spot on pistachio can be caused by _Mycosphaerella_
(synonym _Septoria_) _pistacina_, _Mycosphaerella_ (synonym
_Septoria_) _pistaciarum_, or _Septoria pistaciae_. These fungi
affect only species in the genus _Pistacia_. _S. pistaciae_ has been
reported to be associated with leaf spot in California, and _M.
pistaciarum_ in Arizona, but item 3 above does not state which
species has been found in New Mexico.

For more information on these diseases please see links below.

Maps
USA:
http://www.mapsofworld.com/usa/usa-road-map-enlarge-view.html
and
http://healthmap.org/promed/en?g=4155751&g=5596512&g=5481136&v=40,-97.6,4
US states:
http://www.census.gov/geo/www/us_regdiv.pdf

Pictures
Laurel wilt symptoms on redbay:
http://www.barkbeetles.org/browse/getimage.cfm?imgnum=2110021

Redbay ambrosia beetle:
http://www.barkbeetles.org/browse/getimage.cfm?imgnum=1413003
and
http://www.forestryimages.org/images/768x512/5383206.jpg

Thousand cankers disease on black walnut:
http://artistictreeworks.com/pagegrafx/pa-img2.jpg
and
http://artistictreeworks.com/pagegrafx/pa-img1.jpg

Walnut twig beetle:
http://artistictreeworks.com/pagegrafx/pa-img4.jpg

Septoria spot on pistachio leaf:
http://www.apsnet.org/online/Archive/PDCoverImages/2004v88/apr_1.asp

Links
Additional news stories:
http://www.alligator.org/articles/2009/01/30/news/local/090130_avocado.txt
and
http://wenatcheeworld.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081201/NEWS04/712016122

Information on laurel wilt:
http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/foresthealth/laurelwilt/resources/pubs/399harrington8-53.pdf
http://apsjournals.apsnet.org/doi/abs/10.1094/PDIS-93-2-0198B
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/HS379
and
http://www.fs.fed.us/r8/foresthealth/laurelwilt/index.shtml

Redbay ambrosia beetle information, with pictures:
http://www.invasive.org/browse/subject.cfm?sub=10998 and
http://wiki.bugwood.org/Xyleborus_glabratus

Thousand cankers and walnut twig beetle information:
http://www.ppdl.purdue.edu/PPDL/pubs/walnutthousandcankersdisease.pdf
http://artistictreeworks.com/pestalert.html
http://www.pestalert.org/viewNewsAlert.cfm?naid=65>, and
http://www.wvagriculture.org/market_bulletin/Past_Issues/PDF_Pages/2008/11-08-pg-3.pdf

_Curculionidae_ taxonomy and genera:
http://bugguide.net/node/view/139

Septoria leaf spot of pistachio:
http://www.apsnet.org/pd/searchnotes/2006/PD-90-1553C.asp
and
http://ag.arizona.edu/pubs/crops/az1178/az1178-14.pdf

List of pistachio pathogens:
http://www.apsnet.org/online/common/names/pistachio.asp

All fungal taxonomy via:
http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/Names.asp

Florida DPI:
http://www.doacs.state.fl.us/pi/
- Mod.DHA]
...................................dha/mj/mpp


9,883 posted on 02/07/2009 6:37:19 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: NYTexan; WestCoastGal; nw_arizona_granny

Also, you might want to flip the breaker and see if both are on the same circuit. That can cause problems. My computer responds nastily if I get the cell phone near it. It has to do with the speakers. When I turn off the speakers, it goes away. Might try that - turning the volume down doesn’t work.


9,884 posted on 02/07/2009 6:40:11 AM PST by TnGOP (Petey the dog is my foriegn policy advisor. He's really quite good!)
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To: little jeremiah

Another use for diamotaceous earth is to kill intestinal worms. <<<

I have forgotten all the uses that I had for it, but animal feed and even bug control I know that I used it for.

I haven’t taken it myself.


9,885 posted on 02/07/2009 6:52:10 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere; Calpernia

Granny, that plant was owned by Conagra a mega conglomerate corporation into just about anything to make the bucks.<<<

If the bad peanut butter plant was owned by Conagra, who now stands as the owner of the company?

Is some of this deliberate?


9,886 posted on 02/07/2009 6:54:35 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

Producing those hybrid seeds is a very labor intensive industry, so guess where many of them are produced... India has a huge hybrid seed production industry. <<<

So once again, we will need to rely on a foreign country to supply our basic needs....scary as all get out.

In war time, shipping seeds will not be at the top of the list and all your saved seeds will be all that saves lives.

Americans need to wake up and face the fact that we are no longer a country, but are indeed only a bedroom community of the world.

My area, an 18 mile wide valley, between Laughlin and Bullhead City/Laughlin, Nevada, is considered by the planners as a “bedroom community” for the Laughlin workers.

No money is spent here by the gov, except the 4 lane highway 68 to Laughlin.

We grow like crazy and have for 20 years, a guess would be from 200 to 400 homes 20 years ago to 10,000 homes today and it could be many more.

all serviced by private water companies, trash pick up companies, no sewer or gas lines, it is all septic and butane tanks.

Guess we are lucky to have phone and electric and wouldn’t have that, except the phone company got a big gov grant about 40 years ago and ran phone lines to areas that still do not have homes.

Save seeds, or you will be sorry, should be in all the ads and garden information sites.


9,887 posted on 02/07/2009 7:04:46 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: metmom

List of Recalled Peanut Products

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,489015,00.html
<<<

Thanks for posting this link, I had one from ProMed that was from several links we aren’t to post and couldn’t see how to cut it and make it work.

It has gone international on the recall.


9,888 posted on 02/07/2009 7:07:29 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: DelaWhere

I’m not trying to say that we should be ‘panic buying’ of canning jars, but a goodly supply would surely be reassuring.<<<

You are so correct, buying jars now is wise and you will have them.

I save all glass jars, my sister comes each year and wants to clean out my junk, sorry, my glass stays...

When I made a bulk supply order a few years ago, the salt came in a 20 pound bag, it went into all the odd jars that were not salable, so what if I have a bunch of them, you don’t want to pick up a 5# jar of salt for the daily cooking.

Your post fits what I see in a couple Yahoo canning groups, all last year, almost daily, a new person, who had never canned before.

I learned that all my canning methods were out of date.

Watch the Free Cycle groups, even in Kingman area, which has almost no fruit, I see jars being offered on it.


9,889 posted on 02/07/2009 7:13:44 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: metmom

LOL, I have worn out about 4 pressure cookers and have a big one for canning.

And I used them almost daily, the only one that ever blew the safety, was too full of beef barley soup.

There is still proof of it on the ceiling by the stove.


9,890 posted on 02/07/2009 7:17:10 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: WestCoastGal

If things got very bad people would have to hide their gardens as though they were pot.<<<

That is why so many people are planting the wild gardens in the forests and any place they can tuck them in.

When I think of all the pot gardens they hide and grow for years, it makes me think that we should be smart enough to hide vegetable gardens too.

I have long thought that we would need to hide the goats and chickens as well.

People get all upset over the fighting cocks, but few know that if they are allowed to go wild, they will do just that go wild and roost in the trees.

In Wellton, a man told us he was leaving Wellton and to go and get his chickens.....

We later learned they were fighting cocks and maybe crossed with banties, but we got them out of the trees in the Gila River bottom, they did quite well on the bugs, etc that they found there.

Ducks on a pond? Goats in a woods at a spring?

Except here, the Gov. will shoot your goat, if it gets near where the Big Horn Sheep areas.

I talked to the Gov about it and was told that they did not have proof that goats give disease to the Big Horn Sheep, but just in case, death to the goats.

LOL, and of course the goats that I had would take off every day and head for the sheep area/spring.

An attached but out of site greenhouse would be a good idea.

Food is going to be important, even more important than many can imagine.

Your dishpan of spinach or chard, will mean a lot, if you are living on beans and rice.

Think of how much better beans and rice is with a few herbs.


9,891 posted on 02/07/2009 7:30:14 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: WestCoastGal

However, I am still looking for the food dehydrator that will be much more useful in the future. I have other thrift shoppers looking for me.<<<

Nothing like a bargain to put a smile on your face.

And then I think of a yellow fine cotton, like silk, dress that I once bought, maybe from India, it never did fit me, but I loved looking at it and always planned to use it, maybe for doll dresses.

Join your local Free Cycle group, give away something and then you can ask for what you need, and might get it....free.


9,892 posted on 02/07/2009 7:33:28 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: WestCoastGal

Amendment struck down - ACORN will get their 4.1 Billion.<<<

There are so many news items, that almost scream out,
“Get prepared, you ain’t seen nothing yet”

I can’t get through my emails on a daily basis, without all the thousands from/covering the election, when the computer was down.

Yes, get prepared as never before, with Soros as an adviser to our president, there has to be big trouble ahead.

Plus a faction, of folks are looking at another war with Russia and there is always China and the other communists lurking and ready to do us harm.

Be prepared.


9,893 posted on 02/07/2009 7:39:25 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TnGOP; JDoutrider

One variety, the “Old Tennessee Muskmelon”, yielded me over a dozen muskmelons, each weighing in at 12 - 14 pounds, and a taste to remember. Baker Creek can be found at www.rareseeds.com. Warning: Highly addictive - too many good choices - Hard to make a decision.<<<

They are a company that many use, the muskmelons sound tempting.

I think they may be what my uncle grew in Texas, when I was a kid, had far more taste than the cantaloupe of today.


9,894 posted on 02/07/2009 7:41:50 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: NYTexan

If the radio is pluged into an elictrical outlet this may help:

http://www.agoraquest.com/viewtopic.php?topic=24349&forum=65&keyword2=electronics

Your confuser may have a noisey power supply. In that case distance is yer friend!<<<

Thank you for your help, interesting reading at the link.

Yes, the computer has had a new power pack installed last week and more than likely the radios and computer are on the same breaker switch and there is no way I can change that, as I have limited lines to use.


9,895 posted on 02/07/2009 7:56:14 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I only use mine only for canning so not much chance of the vent getting clogged from that. I do check it every time I can, though.


9,896 posted on 02/07/2009 7:58:18 AM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

If you put a couple of teaspoons or so in a glass of water, it just tastes like dirty water, or water with some clay in it. I just mix it in the cats’ food and they pay it no mind. Worm free cats - no poisons needed! Supposedly it adds useful minerals as well.


9,897 posted on 02/07/2009 7:58:56 AM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: TnGOP

I fear the radio and computer are on the same circuit.

No, I can’t change them and am at the limit of how to plug into these old wires in an old mobile.

Thanks for the information, you are more than likely correct.


9,898 posted on 02/07/2009 7:59:46 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

What is the recommended method for storing seed? Freezer seems too harsh. Just a cool, dry place?


9,899 posted on 02/07/2009 8:02:17 AM PST by TnGOP (Petey the dog is my foriegn policy advisor. He's really quite good!)
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To: metmom

Using a pressure cooker for stews and beans is handy in a hurry, or try a pork roast with a can of pineapple dumped on it.

I can have a pressure pot of beans on the table in 1 & 1/2 hours, I put my spices, onion, garlic, etc in before cooking and add salt later, as I recall they only cook 45 minutes.

Takes just long enough to make a pan of cornbread.


9,900 posted on 02/07/2009 8:05:37 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1990507/posts?page=7451 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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