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A Casino That Makes Sense for Ohio
MyOhioNow.com ^ | 04-05-08 | MyOhioNow.com

Posted on 04/05/2008 3:59:31 PM PDT by GOP_Lady



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: casino; gambling; nanny; ohio
Let's see if the Ohio nanny-staters will not allow this in our nanny-state. Gambling is against the State of Ohio's Constitution. That's why I go to Pennsylvania and Vegas (baby). Realize that adults will not be allowed to smoke because of Ohio's extreme non-smoking law, and private clubs are illegal in Ohio as well. What a great state! Hey, ho, way to go, Ohio!
1 posted on 04/05/2008 3:59:31 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
For you Ohio nanny-staters:


2 posted on 04/05/2008 4:00:36 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Gabz
Nanny-state ping, please, if you wish.
3 posted on 04/05/2008 4:01:00 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Eric Blair 2084

No, this is NOT a picture of me. While I enjoy the same style, I don’t do prints. LOL. :-) Nanny-state PING, please, for my fellow Ohio nanny-staters.


4 posted on 04/05/2008 4:34:48 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Las Vegas Dave
A little bit of Vegas in Ohio. :-) What say you? NE Ohio nanny-state PING, please!
5 posted on 04/05/2008 4:40:56 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: ADemocratNoMore; Akron Al; arbee4bush; Badeye; Bikers4Bush; BlindedByTruth; bonfire; boxerblues; ...

Ohio Ping!


6 posted on 04/05/2008 8:04:10 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, June 2004.)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Las Vegas Dave, I think it is very telling why you chose your screen name and are from Ohio. :-) Hope all is well.


7 posted on 04/05/2008 8:13:14 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Las Vegas Dave

Good evening, Las Vegas Dave! I can’t wait until hubby and I go to Vegas next month. Hubby will actually be ALLOWED to enjoy a cigar with his adult beverage with other like-minded adults. Since November 2006, hubby and I have been to Vegas 5 times — this coming May will make 6, and this coming July will make 7. Gee, I wonder why. Maybe because in this state there is not ONE SIGNLE PLACE where adults can be adults. Let’s defeat the NANNY STATERS this time. Enough of telling us how we should live our lives. We are adults, and the vast majority of us are responsible.


8 posted on 04/05/2008 8:14:11 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Las Vegas Dave

It is an IMPRESSIVE plan, and one that truly does make sense. While I will probably never (shouldn’t say never) go there (being from Cleveland, and with Erie, Pennsylvania being closer), I will still vote for it. I see way too much tax dollars going out of the state of Ohio.


9 posted on 04/05/2008 8:20:54 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

let me get this straight...is this an Indian casino?.....


10 posted on 04/05/2008 8:55:14 PM PDT by cherry
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To: GOP_Lady
you remind me of an older guy who I rode next to from Vegas to Albany, ny, via Southwest....he looked well to do and bragged the whole time how he and his wife have been on over 40 cruises, how they go to Vegas 8 times a year, get their trips and hotels paid for and even free dinners and limosine service...he told me he keeps $15,000 at one casino in the "bank" so he can use it when he goes....

I just imagined that he must be some hot shot retired Jewish Doctor from NYC or maybe a lawyer....some big wig anyway....

what he did?.....he was a union worker at GE , retired..his wife retired from the state..no children of course....

11 posted on 04/05/2008 9:00:10 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
No, it's commercial. Pics and background of the developers are on their site.
12 posted on 04/05/2008 9:23:11 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: cherry

LOL. I don’t mean to brag. I’m not a high-roller, just an ordinary person. I posted what I posted to make a point — the nanny state has to end. You have to allow places where adults can be adults. The vast majority of adults are responsible. That’s all. We should stop trying to tell each other what we can and cannot do (within reason, of course). :-)


13 posted on 04/05/2008 9:26:13 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: cherry

No, this is not an Indian run Casino. Two individual investors are behind this current proposal. One was behind the last issue that failed.
I’ll add an incentive. If the naysayers are worried about staffing the place, that is easily solved. Turn some of the entitlement takers into employees. And the best part is, the Casino doesn’t have to pay them, because WE already do. And they get health insurance to boot.

Imagine how much staxs in our pockets then.


14 posted on 04/05/2008 9:26:16 PM PDT by cleveland gop (FOX NEWS ALERT-Tiger Woods will win the Masters!)
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To: cleveland gop

I voted against Issue 3 because they had NO PLAN. I wanted to know exactly what I was voting for, which only makes sense.


15 posted on 04/05/2008 9:29:47 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

That’s not how I pictured you at all.

But this casino does not fit my agenda of justice....

I’ve said it a million times. Progressive liberal states need to become poor and beg the Native American casino owners and cultivators of the tobacco crop for money in 10 years.

That will prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there is a God.


16 posted on 04/05/2008 10:00:27 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Very pro gambling in Ohio here. Tired of the long drives to send my money to another state.


17 posted on 04/06/2008 8:46:04 AM PDT by Shyla
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To: Shyla

Shyla! So very nice to see you, again. Hope all is well. :-)


18 posted on 04/06/2008 9:35:20 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Doing well....remodeling the house..pain in the butt though it will be well worth it.

Nice to see you also!!!!

My friend STILL talks about the Landerhaven event!!!!!


19 posted on 04/06/2008 2:33:12 PM PDT by Shyla
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To: GOP_Lady

While I’m not a gambler myself, I have no problem with building a casino in Ohio. Let’s keep Ohio dollars in Ohio for once. God knows we’re losing enough dollars to out-of-state casinos. I also voted against the smoking ban, even though I’m a non-smoker. I’m sick of the nanny-staters trying to legislate morality.


20 posted on 04/07/2008 4:43:26 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: traviskicks

Libetarian PING to fight the Ohio nanny-staters.


21 posted on 04/08/2008 5:38:20 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ...


Libertarian ping! To be added or removed freepmail me or post a message here.
22 posted on 04/08/2008 9:06:29 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: Shyla; GOP_Lady
Very pro gambling in Ohio here. Tired of the long drives to send my money to another state.

You could have just invested in SkyBus.

23 posted on 04/08/2008 10:00:21 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring
FYI ... I have a part-time job that provides the means for this type of entertainment. I don't think there's a problem with that at all.
24 posted on 04/09/2008 3:14:52 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Very conservative Ohio Republican and ANTI-gambling. I intend to fight this. You folks need to take a closer look at the mess in Lawrenceburg Indiana. Crime is up. Traffic is awful and roads cannot handle it. And the taxpayers have to pay for the road improvments. Taxes are UP. Gambling like this is nothing more than a poor tax. A few benefit while the rest spend their rent, food and gas money. Gambling is available for those who want it within just a couple of hours drive. There is plenty of gambling in Indiana, and Pennsylvania. We don’t want it here.


25 posted on 04/09/2008 3:20:18 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid
Very conservative Ohio Republican (twice a delegate) here. Too many Ohioans are going out of state, and this state is losing an awful lot of tax dollars. It's as simple as that. The vast majority of people treat gambling as entertainment and are responsible. I, myself, have a part-time job for this type of entertainment. Unfortunately, my dollars end up going to the State of Nevada and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.
26 posted on 04/09/2008 3:32:01 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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Well I actully live in Ohio all year long and will have to put up with the problems that this casino will cause. If you don’t live in Ohio all the time, you should not be a part of this discussion. I’m wondering what kind of personal gain will you get if this casino is built. Are you a part time Gambling industry employee who has been tasked with promoting this casino?


27 posted on 04/09/2008 3:41:34 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid

I live in GEAUGA COUNTY. Every single county (all 88) in Ohio will receive revenue (proportionate to population). FYI ... I am in no way associated with the developers of this project (which is very impressive, by the way). I’m an Ohio citizen just like you. :-)


28 posted on 04/09/2008 3:44:19 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady
I don't think there's a problem with that at all.

I never said there was.

Read my comment again. I referred to a Columbus-based company, SkyBus, that just went under, illustrating that investment is also gambling.

See also, for example, my posts here and here.

29 posted on 04/09/2008 4:59:52 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: GOP_Lady

As you stated - You have “a part time job with this type of entertainment” - So that tells me that you are looking out for yourself here and not necessarily the state. Are you employed by or connected with this casino in any way? I have a feeling that you are or that you hope to be employed there. Not exactly an unbiased opinion.


30 posted on 04/09/2008 8:13:29 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid
My full-time job is a legal secretary; my part-time job is in a candle shop. I live in Geauga County (east of Cleveland), which would be an awfully long commute. I am not interested in a job in the proposed casino. I'm just a person who enjoys a little entertainment playing slots every now and then, and therefore tired of seeing my fellow Ohioans going out of state and giving their money to another state. Ohio has to get in the ballgame. I said I have a part-time job FOR (as in to pay for) this type of entertainment.
31 posted on 04/09/2008 8:22:28 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Martins kid

32 posted on 04/09/2008 9:01:58 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Martins kid

33 posted on 04/09/2008 9:03:23 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: GOP_Lady

Actually I think the gambling in Pennsylvania might be closer for you. There is only so much gambling money out there. If Ohio gets casinos, then the gambling money is divided up amoung even more states. Ohio will not get as much as the surrounding states are getting right now - because they will just be keeping their own gamblers and not attracting gamblers from other states because they already have their own casinos. It is just not worth it when one considers the real “cost” of having a casino in the state.

Anyone who thinks that casino profit is really going to help the state probably thinks the Ohio Lottery goes to pay for education and keeps our taxes low.... No - I’ll fight this. No good reason for a casino in Ohio.


34 posted on 04/10/2008 5:20:58 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid
You are correct. Erie is only 70 miles from me, and I will continue to go there as well as Vegas. Actually, there is a LIMITED amount of discretionary money for this type of market (as in any other type of product being marketed). Watch the news articles on the links, where an Ohio State Senator or Representative makes that case. If we don't act now, it will be too late because of this. Ohio needs to capture this money and not allow it to be lost. It's silly. Adults enjoy this type of entertainment on occassion, as do I. Crime is not a problem. The safest place to be is inside a casino where everything is videotaped continually. Erie has not a problem. You just don't approve of gambling, is all. Check the FACTS.
35 posted on 04/10/2008 6:12:00 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

You said - “If we don’t act now it will be too late” - That is why those of us who do NOT want more gambling in Ohio are fighting this from the beginning.

Ask yourself - who is paying for this extremely expensive PR campaign? Websites like that don’t grow on trees. Who is paying for all those expensive advertisements on the Television and Radio? Hmmmm? I’ll tell you who - the organization or business that will be getting the most money from this casino...and its not the taxpayers of the State of Ohio. Some government officials already know who because they got large campaign donations from the group or person. I don’t know who it is, but I know the best interests of the state are not the goal. Wake up, Lady.


36 posted on 04/10/2008 8:22:29 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid

I am indeed very awake, thank you. I’m awake enough to see many, many, many of my fellow Ohioans going out of our state and adding to the economies of other states instead of our own. I see it continually. I predict this will pass by a handy margin. Ohio is tired of being a “nanny state” where adults can’t do this and can’t do that as a result of being dictated to by some in our state. If you don’t want to go to a casino, that’s just fine. As far as the PR campaign for this project, it’s no different than any other type of business enterprise. Tell me, what information did you obtain by visiting the site for this project?


37 posted on 04/10/2008 9:52:38 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Last time I checked the so called “nanny state” line - no one has shut the borders - Ohioans are free to go to other states to gamble. And you, yourself, already said that Erie was very convenient for you. So what’s the issue? You can gamble all you want! TaDa Why force casinos on a state that has repeatly rejected it? I work in the information business and I know that this particular PR campaign is VERY - extremely - expensive. You have been so brainwashed by it. This is NOT a normal business enterprise. No - there is BIG - HUGE- money hoping to take BIG money out of the pockets of Ohioans. I’ve looked at your brainwashing site and I’ve also looked at a few other anti-casino sites run by citizens who cannot afford the expensive ads, website, and TV spots the casino business can. You might try getting a balanced view of this issue.


38 posted on 04/11/2008 7:57:57 AM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid

Care to join me in Vegas next month and in July where you will see a lot of your fellow Ohioans (including Freepers)? Ohio IS a nanny-state, and the majority of Ohio citizens think so. I am able to see both sides of this issue and have not been brainwashed. Just because you don’t agree with me is no reason for you to say something about me that you don’t even know is true or not. Ohio needs to capture some of this money, and keep Ohioans entertained in our own state. This issue will pass. Ohioans are tired of seeing all of their money go to other states. It’s just that simple.


39 posted on 04/11/2008 8:24:29 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Martins kid

You don’t even know the definition of “nanny state,” do you?


40 posted on 04/11/2008 8:47:46 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: GOP_Lady

Your “holier than thou” attitude makes this discussion a joke and a waste of time. Go gamble away your life savings “for entertainment”. Its a free country and gambling casinos are only a short drive from your house. Go have your own personal kind of fun. No one wants to stop you.

Luckily, most Ohioans are too smart to believe the self-serving propaganda and twisted logic found on that casino site. Any economics student can pick the pro-casino website apart on false economic logic. Someone is going to make lots of money and its not the state of OHio.

We will be fighting this casino and fighting the rich people/organization who want to get richer off the hard earned money of Ohioans. If you think the Ohio Lottery was designed to support education - I’ve got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn. This casino will be no different.


41 posted on 04/11/2008 2:08:58 PM PDT by Martins kid
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To: Martins kid

I don’t think that I have the attitude that you have said that I have. All I’ve done it state factual reasons why it’s time for Ohio to have a casino: (1) too much money is being lost to other states; (2) gambling is entertainment and the vast majority of people view it in that fashion; (3) revenue will be given to all 88 Ohio counties; and (4) Ohio is a nanny-state where people force their views on others, and it’s time for it to stop.

Let me assure you that the anti-gambling sites’ arguments are not showing both sides and are self-serving. Like I’ve said, the majority of adults who gamble view it as entertainment and do it responsibly (just as they do with drinking, driving, etc.).

Like I’ve also said REPEATEDLY, I have a part-time job for this type of entertainment, and I do it responsibly. For you to post that I gamble away my life savings suggests to me that you are not listening and your mind is closed. You might want to state some facts like I have.

Lastly, with your verbiage regarding “big gambling” and “rich people who want to get richer off hard earned money,” you sound like a dem. Oh, also, the only time I buy Ohio Lottery tickets is when the jackpot is double-digit-millions, and then I only spend $10. At least from the casinos, more times than not, I am entertained, win enough to keep playing, and get free beverages, rooms and meals. From the State of Ohio when I play the lottery, I get nothing.

I believe this issue will be on the ballot and will pass, because the majority of Ohioans think it is time.


42 posted on 04/11/2008 9:05:00 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Martins kid

By the way, who is “WE?”


43 posted on 04/12/2008 11:43:31 AM PDT by GOP_Lady
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