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61% of Historians Rate the Bush Presidency Worst
History News Network ^ | 4/1/08 | Robert S. McElvaine

Posted on 04/10/2008 12:00:34 PM PDT by steve-b

...In an informal survey of 109 professional historians conducted over a three-week period through the History News Network, 98.2 percent assessed the presidency of Mr. Bush to be a failure while 1.8 percent classified it as a success.

Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents, more than 61 percent of the historians concluded that the current presidency is the worst in the nation's history. Another 35 percent of the historians surveyed rated the Bush presidency in the 31st to 41st category, while only four of the 109 respondents ranked the current presidency as even among the top two-thirds of American administrations....

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TOPICS: History; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: academia; bush; gwbush; history

1 posted on 04/10/2008 12:00:34 PM PDT by steve-b
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To: steve-b

What a crock of shit.


2 posted on 04/10/2008 12:01:55 PM PDT by jdm (With coffee, all things are possible (just kidding, Father).)
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To: steve-b

92% of “Professional Historians” couldn’t hold down a job at Dairy Queen.


3 posted on 04/10/2008 12:02:02 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: steve-b

I would put him in the bottom five, but not worse than Carter.


4 posted on 04/10/2008 12:03:22 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: andy58-in-nh

They maybe historians but in no way are they professional.


5 posted on 04/10/2008 12:03:39 PM PDT by ladtx ( "Never miss a good chance to shut up." - - Will Rogers)
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To: steve-b

Reagan was considered a failure by the press and academics too. Years later, their opinions changed.

Hard to see how Bush is worse than Jimmy Carter.


6 posted on 04/10/2008 12:03:45 PM PDT by dashing doofus (Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber)
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To: steve-b

The survey assumes that people give a damn what ivory tower historians believe. They’ve systematically censored/distorted/ignored the history of Communist espionage in the U.S. so why should they be believed about anything?


7 posted on 04/10/2008 12:03:57 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: steve-b
109 professional historians

Not to be confused with historians.

8 posted on 04/10/2008 12:04:55 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: steve-b

This means 39% of historians will never attain tenure .


9 posted on 04/10/2008 12:06:17 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: ladtx

I’m assuming these are academic historians rather then the sort who actually need to produce marketable books and articles.


10 posted on 04/10/2008 12:07:47 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: steve-b
It's an "informal poll" of the 103 readers of the George Mason University liberal history website.

It would be the equivalent of asking this website to rank Bill Clinton's presidency.

Predictable, unscientific, and worthless. I'm sure Olberman will lead with it tonight. Maybe even Couric.

11 posted on 04/10/2008 12:09:37 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: dashing doofus
Reagan was considered a failure by the press and academics too. Years later, their opinions changed.

Actually, I doubt many of them changed their opinions. The facts just made them look like idiots.

12 posted on 04/10/2008 12:10:50 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: jdm

I rank GW in the top 1/3. He squandered away any higher rank with his border policy ( or lack thereof ) and weak domestic agenda.


13 posted on 04/10/2008 12:10:55 PM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: steve-b

Bunch of Ivory Tower mental midgets giving their 2 cents worth of opinion. I’d like to see any one of them actually have a real job.


14 posted on 04/10/2008 12:13:51 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Dad of a 2nd BCT 10th Mountain Soldier home after 15 months in the Triangle of death)
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To: andy58-in-nh
I’m assuming these are academic historians rather then the sort who actually need to produce marketable books and articles.

The only qualification for the 109 "professional historians" was that they send them their name and school affiliation. Then the second requirement was waived for "independent historians."

Basically, if "Heywood Jablomi of Jojo Gumshow Academy of Puppies" submitted his opinion, it was counted.

15 posted on 04/10/2008 12:13:54 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: steve-b

Any historian who thinks this presidency is the worst in American history doesn’t know American history.


16 posted on 04/10/2008 12:17:41 PM PDT by Cecily
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To: dead

LOL. I think I did my senior thesis for him.


17 posted on 04/10/2008 12:21:32 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Kill the terrorists, secure the borders, and give me back my freedom.)
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To: steve-b

Well, consider the source.


18 posted on 04/10/2008 12:29:35 PM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: steve-b
Asked to rank the presidency of George W. Bush in comparison to those of the other 41 American presidents

I don’t think the author of this story has much of a grasp on history (or math).

G. W. Bush is the 43 rd President so that would mean there are 42 other presidents.

19 posted on 04/10/2008 12:30:22 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: dashing doofus
Reagan was considered a failure by the press and academics too. Years later, their opinions changed.

Nah! The 'professionals' still hate Reagan today as much, or more than they did when he left office. The reason is frustration on their part over his increasing popularity with the masses.

20 posted on 04/10/2008 12:35:58 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: steve-b

Generally, professional historian = college professor = left wing socialist = hate any Republican and especially GW Bush.

That 1.9 percent are probably not professors.


21 posted on 04/10/2008 12:49:57 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Energy plan: Build refineries and nuke plants, drill for our oil, mine our coal.)
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To: steve-b

In related news, 94% plus of “professional” historians are tenured Democrats and have ZERO credibility.


22 posted on 04/10/2008 12:57:11 PM PDT by alwaysconservative (Whoever said you can't buy love, never owned a dog.)
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To: steve-b

The sample is 109 “historians”, statistically even more useless than historians.

Moreover, as anyone with a shred of civic awareness will know, a sample of any group of academics or professors will automatically be a sampling of a left to hard-left to marxist sample, no matter what size.

The story is vacuousness wrapped in emptiness based on nothingness.


23 posted on 04/10/2008 1:04:11 PM PDT by JewishRighter (Why, oh Why can't it be Hunter???)
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To: Moonman62
I would put him in the bottom five, but not worse than Carter.

I guess you fit right in with the academic idiots...anyone with any sense of history would not even begin to try and assess the greatness of a President while he is still in office.... A hundred years from now President Bush will probably be recognized as one of the Great Presidents along with Lincoln and Reagan.

24 posted on 04/10/2008 1:05:10 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: steve-b
We won't know for a few years how good BushII's presidency is.

But so far, I rank him as 3rd worst in my lifetime, behind Slick Willie and the worst president of the 20th century by far - James Earl Carter.

25 posted on 04/10/2008 1:32:14 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: Moonman62
I wouldn't go that far, but bottom half fits.

Worst: 1. Franklin Pierce
2. Jimmy Carter
3. James Buchanan
4. Woodrow Wilson
5. Lyndon Baines Johnson

26 posted on 04/10/2008 1:39:30 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: RVN Airplane Driver
A hundred years from now President Bush will probably be recognized as one of the Great Presidents along with Lincoln and Reagan.

LOL. W is a one term president near the end of his second term, and he barely got a first term.

27 posted on 04/10/2008 1:41:28 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: Pontiac
I don’t think the author of this story has much of a grasp on history (or math).

G. W. Bush is the 43 rd President so that would mean there are 42 other presidents.

Actually, Grover Cleveland was elected for two non-consecutive turns which are counted seperately, so there were only 41 other presidents.

28 posted on 04/10/2008 3:53:20 PM PDT by ConfusedAndLovingIt
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To: steve-b; Liberty Valance
It is pretty insignificant what 109 professional historians think. There are tens of thousands of them out there. The true history of this time won't be written until most of us are dust. I'm not afraid of what history will say about me, and neither are most of us on this site. I sure hope Bush isn't worrying about what historians say.

Now me... Bush should be listening to me. LOL

29 posted on 04/10/2008 8:03:17 PM PDT by Brucifer (G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
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