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Parents Fight Over Which Gang Toddler Should Join
the Denver Channel ^
| April 10, 2008
Posted on 04/11/2008 7:52:00 AM PDT by proud_yank
Police: Mother A Crip, Father A Westside Baller
COMMERCE CITY, Colo. -- A couple fighting about which gang their 4-year-old toddler should join caused a public disturbance that resulted in the father's arrest, Commerce City police said Thursday.
On Saturday, Joseph Manzanares stormed into the Hollywood Video store where his girlfriend worked, threatened to kill her and knocked over several video displays and even a computer, Commerce City police Sgt. Joe Sandoval said.
After he ran out of the store, police were called and the 19-year-old was arrested at his home.
His girlfriend told police that they had been arguing about the upbringing of their son and which gang he should belong to. The teen mother, who is black, is a member of the Crips. Manzanares is Hispanic and belongs to the Westside Ballers gang, the woman said.
"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said.
Manzanares was charged with disorderly conduct, harassment, and domestic violence. He was transported to the Adams County Detention Facility.
On Tuesday, he pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct and was sentenced to a year of probation. The misdemeanor harassment charge was dropped.
TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: co; crime; crips; diversity; gang; manzanares; youths
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Daddy.
To: proud_yank
Is this the result of intergang dating?
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posted on
04/11/2008 7:54:34 AM PDT
by
Former Proud Canadian
(How do I change my screen name after Harper's election?)
To: proud_yank
To: proud_yank
and we were afraid of the mafia, these guys target other races, the mafia targeted their enemies.
To: proud_yank
Is there a “there’s no hope for this poor kid” gang?
5
posted on
04/11/2008 7:55:56 AM PDT
by
cjshapi
(Proudly posting without a tagline since 2001)
To: Former Proud Canadian
Sadly, not a shred of hope in this kid’s life.
6
posted on
04/11/2008 7:57:41 AM PDT
by
ZX12R
To: proud_yank
This is sick.
Both parents should be thrown in stupid jail for life.
7
posted on
04/11/2008 8:06:23 AM PDT
by
svcw
(I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
To: proud_yank
Remember when parents used to argue over which college their child should attend? I wonder if any still do?
8
posted on
04/11/2008 8:08:46 AM PDT
by
theDentist
(Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
To: proud_yank
Young couples used to argue about which church or day care they’d put their kids in. My, times have changed.....
9
posted on
04/11/2008 8:08:50 AM PDT
by
AuntB
('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
To: cjshapi; svcw; ZX12R; girlangler; fanfan
Is there a theres no hope for this poor kid gang?
I think he was just born into it!
10
posted on
04/11/2008 8:10:23 AM PDT
by
proud_yank
(Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
To: proud_yank
Most likely the child be in a ChainGang picking up trash along the highway under the barrel of a shotgun.
11
posted on
04/11/2008 8:12:46 AM PDT
by
ßuddaßudd
(7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
To: proud_yank
The authorities should let the kid be raised by a couple of cops. Piss off both liberal idiot parents.
12
posted on
04/11/2008 8:13:40 AM PDT
by
dead
(I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
To: proud_yank
Some problems are to be expected in a mixed shack-up.
13
posted on
04/11/2008 8:21:54 AM PDT
by
Hacklehead
(Crush the liberals, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentation of the hippies.)
To: proud_yank
It’s good to see a dad being involved with his kids these days.
14
posted on
04/11/2008 8:22:45 AM PDT
by
AppyPappy
(If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
To: proud_yank
"They have different ideas on how the baby should be raised. Basically, she said they cannot agree on which gang the baby would 'claim,'" Sandoval said. Hey, at least daddy acknowledges that the kid is his, and seems to be passionate about how he is raised. That's more than can be said for a lot of fathers.
Though in this case, I suspect Jr. may have been better off if dad had quit the scene a long time ago.
15
posted on
04/11/2008 8:24:35 AM PDT
by
timm22
(Think critically)
To: proud_yank
(sniff) ... Just like West Side Story ... (snuffle)
16
posted on
04/11/2008 8:26:00 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: proud_yank
Now had they been arguing over whether or not to homeschool, they’d be facing child endangerment charges.
17
posted on
04/11/2008 8:33:02 AM PDT
by
JZelle
To: proud_yank
I wonder if being a member of Free Republic qualifies as being a gang member?
18
posted on
04/11/2008 8:41:27 AM PDT
by
2001convSVT
("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
To: proud_yank
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posted on
04/11/2008 8:42:35 AM PDT
by
fella
(Is he al-taquiya or is he murtadd? Only his iman knows for sure.)
To: 2001convSVT
“I wonder if being a member of Free Republic qualifies as being a gang member? “
Absolutely.....wait until you get ‘initiated’....quite a ceremony. And we have colors too....Red, White, and Blue.
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posted on
04/11/2008 8:50:07 AM PDT
by
AuntB
('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
To: proud_yank
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posted on
04/11/2008 9:07:09 AM PDT
by
Jeff Chandler
(It takes a father to raise a child.)
To: proud_yank
HOW DO I REEECH THEES KEEEDS!!!!
22
posted on
04/11/2008 9:16:13 AM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: 75thOVI; Abathar; alarm rider; albee; Alice au Wonderland; Amityschild; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
To: 2001convSVT
I wonder if being a member of Free Republic qualifies as being a gang member? Ees no a gang, ees a clob.
To: ZX12R
There’s always hope for divine intervention.
25
posted on
04/11/2008 9:35:49 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
To: martin_fierro

"But how do you thank someone, who has taken you from crayons to perfuuuuuuuuuuuuuuume...?"
26
posted on
04/11/2008 9:37:28 AM PDT
by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
(McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
To: Alouette
HOW DO I REEECH THEES KEEEDS!!!!BWAH-ha-ha-haaaaa!!! ;)
27
posted on
04/11/2008 9:38:49 AM PDT
by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
(McCain "conservatives" = hardcore liberals who nonetheless appreciate the occasional tax cut.)
To: proud_yank; martin_fierro
At least they weren’t doing something really irresponsible like homeschooling without a teacher’s certificate in California.
28
posted on
04/11/2008 9:41:30 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
Hey, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen you around these parts! Howyadoin?
29
posted on
04/11/2008 9:42:21 AM PDT
by
Mr. Silverback
(It's not conservative to accept an inept Commander-in-Chief in a time of war. Back Mac.)
To: svcw
Both parents should be thrown in stupid jail for life. What happens when the inmates are running the asylum?
We're way past prison time being of any consequence at all.
30
posted on
04/11/2008 9:44:57 AM PDT
by
Bloody Sam Roberts
(A couple of pints and a package of crisps. Ahhh...life's good.)
To: proud_yank
This would have been the inevitable result if Romeo and Juliet had lived.
31
posted on
04/11/2008 9:47:05 AM PDT
by
CSM
(Kakistocracy: Government by the least qualified or most unprincipled citizens.)
To: proud_yank; OSHA
Oh well, I am sure that the “No Chil’ren Left Behind” program will provide a safety net.
To: martin_fierro
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posted on
04/11/2008 10:54:05 AM PDT
by
2001convSVT
("People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence")
To: proud_yank; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
Havard or Yale, Caltech or MIT, Crips or Bloods...?
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posted on
04/11/2008 12:01:34 PM PDT
by
Slings and Arrows
("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
To: EveningStar
“How do I reech thees keeds” ‘Tard pinb
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posted on
04/11/2008 2:11:50 PM PDT
by
Alouette
(Vicious Babushka)
To: al baby; Auntbee; BJClinton; Dashing Dasher; dfwddr; exile; feinswinesuksass; Finger Monkey; ...
"Tard" refers to the ping list members and not to the subject of the thread!
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To: proud_yank; All
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posted on
04/11/2008 2:39:42 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: proud_yank; John Semmens; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...
Dr. Laura sez: No intergangless relationships!
And no, folks, this is not a John Semmens satire piece.
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posted on
04/11/2008 2:40:09 PM PDT
by
Tolerance Sucks Rocks
(To the liberal, there's no sacrifice too big for somebody else to make. --FReeper popdonnelly)
To: Alouette
To: proud_yank
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posted on
04/11/2008 2:59:31 PM PDT
by
Gondring
(I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
To: fella
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posted on
04/11/2008 2:59:41 PM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
rotflmRao.
otoh, i PITY the kid. he has TWO cretins/losers for parents. in a few years, he may wish for "retroactive abortion" on BOTH.
free dixie,sw
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posted on
04/11/2008 3:03:00 PM PDT
by
stand watie
(Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
To: Gondring
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posted on
04/11/2008 3:07:38 PM PDT
by
Stoat
(Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
To: windcliff
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posted on
04/11/2008 3:22:58 PM PDT
by
stylecouncilor
(I'm a loner Dottie; a rebel.)
To: Mr. Silverback
At least they werent doing something really irresponsible like homeschooling without a teachers certificate in California.OMG, that was a keyboard-killer!
Just when you think it can't get any worse out there.... Let's see, he is 19 and his son is 4. It takes 9 months to have a baby, so his age of siring the child would have been, at most, barely 15...
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posted on
04/11/2008 3:42:04 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.—WChurchill)
To: Albion Wilde
“....so his age of siring the child would have been, at most, barely 15...”
But he learned it in disciplined state schools, in required classes, provided by the best teachers in the world. It’s for the children.....
See, the system works.
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posted on
04/11/2008 4:54:21 PM PDT
by
Gator113
(Obama has "changed" me. I am now "a Typical White Person”.)
To: Gator113
He must have been absent the day they demonstrated condoms and bananas.
47
posted on
04/11/2008 4:56:57 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(The best argument against democracy is a 5-minute conversation with the average voter.—WChurchill)
To: Albion Wilde
And think about it...the mother is even younger.
48
posted on
04/11/2008 5:03:02 PM PDT
by
Tamar1973
(Catch the Korean Wave, one Bae Yong Joon film at a time!)
To: 2001convSVT
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posted on
04/11/2008 5:06:31 PM PDT
by
Grizzled Bear
("Does not play well with others.")
To: television is just wrong
You are right. Generally the mob won’t bother you unless you make a bad deal with them. And they usually respected women and children (not all, but most). These gangs just enjoy the violence.
That being said; when I was a single mother of two toddlers and I was ‘protected’ in the projects. As a white woman with babies, they did stop a few predators (who would comment as I walked to the “you living up there alone now ain’t ya”. I was seriously terrified most of the time.
Proud to say that I only lived there a year until I saved enough for a duplex and then bought a home a year after that. It’s a tiny home, but it’s mine and I’m not on government support anymore.
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