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Vote to be Held on Hunting Wolves (Northern Wisconsin)
Wisconsin State Journal ^ | April 12, 2008 | Ron Seely

Posted on 04/13/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin

Mike Brust is a hunter and, if the state ever approves a hunting season on timber wolves, he will be in line for a permit.

"I hunt predators,'' Brust, of Wausau, said. "It's a very intriguing hunt."

A proposal to establish a hunting season on gray wolves will be up for a vote Monday night at the statewide spring meetings of the Conservation Congress, a powerful advisory group to the state Department of Natural Resources on outdoor sporting issues.

Brust, who chairs the Conservation Congress committee on wolves, said he expects the proposal to pass. If it does, the DNR will probably look more seriously at a hunting season on an animal that, less than two years ago, was still on the federal endangered species list.

Gray wolves, also known as timber wolves, have returned to Wisconsin in healthy numbers after being nearly eliminated from the state by 1957 by hunters who feared the animals were threatening the deer herd. That's the same year that a bounty for wolves, $20 for adults and $10 for pups, was eliminated. Placement of the wolf on the state and federal endangered species lists and a ban on hunting helped encourage the return of the wolf, mostly from healthier populations in Minnesota, to Wisconsin. Last year 's surveys showed between 540 and 577 wolves in Wisconsin, according to Adrian Wydeven, a DNR mammalian ecologist and wolf expert.

Toll on livestock

The number of wolves in Wisconsin, as well as in Minnesota and in Michigan's Upper Peninsula, reached levels that prompted the wolf 's removal from endangered species designation last year.

Brust said that as wolf population numbers have climbed, depredation by some wolves on livestock, pets and hunting dogs has increased. A wolf hunting season, he said, would not only be a way to keep the population in check, it would also help retain support for the recovery program, especially in Northern Wisconsin. Farmers and others who have to deal with problem wolves were encouraged last year, Brust said, when the delisting of the wolf allowed them to shoot wolves on their land if they are killing livestock. A hunting season would be another important step.

"It's a great success story,'' Brust said of the wolf's return. "If we were to allow them to spread into areas where they don 't belong, it could jeopardize the program. It will give the public a sense that there is a means of control. Landowners have been frustrated but giving them the right to control wolves on their land has eased a lot of opposition."

In addition to a proposed wolf hunting season, the Conservation Congress will also vote Monday on a proposal that would make it legal to shoot wolves on public land if they are threatening pets or livestock. That proposal took on additional meaning last week when the DNR reported that, earlier this month, two wolves in the Chequamegaon National Forest had killed a cocker spaniel that got ahead of its owner during a walk on a forest road.

Wydeven said such incidents do turn people against wolves. He said he has sensed an erosion in support for the wolf recovery program as wolf numbers have climbed.

Still, some are adamantly against hunting an animal whose demise in the state nearly came about because of hunting.

Gena Schroeder is with the national organization Defenders of Wildlife and said the group will be encouraging its members in Wisconsin to attend the Conservation Congress meetings and vote against the wolf hunting plan.

Schroeder said it was just a little over a year ago that wolves were removed from the endangered species list. Too few data exist, she said, on their current populations to justify a wolf hunt.

"We've always been concerned about the long-term survival of the wolf,"Not Schroeder said.

Wydeven, however, said current wolf populations can stand up to a hunting season if that hunt is strictly regulated. Studies have shown, he said, that hunters could kill between 30 and 50 wolves and not harm the population's future. Such studies, he added, take into account that the Wisconsin wolves are actually part of a larger population that extends into Minnesota and Michigan 's Upper Peninsula.

The procedure

Were Monday 's Conservation Congress to approve the hunting proposal, Wydeven said, the issue would be taken up by the group 's board at its meeting in May and the board would have to decide whether to forward the plan to the Natural Resources Board, which sets policy for the DNR. That board, Wydeven said, would then have to decide whether to direct DNR staff to set up regulations for a wolf hunting season.

Setting up such a season would take months, Wydeven said, and would require more population studies as well as many public meetings for gathering public opinion on the matter. A hunting season on wolves would also have to be approved by the Legislature, Wydeven said.

Wydeven said that, despite wolf numbers that could sustain a hunt, he understands how difficult it might be for some to accept a hunting season. The subject of wolves is emotional, he said, because of the myth and the legend that has grown up around the animal.

"The range of attitudes is so extensive," Wydeven said. "It goes from those who view wolves as saints and gods to those who seem them as devils and demons. Trying to walk a line between those attitudes and find a way to manage wolves is difficult."


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I'm not sure if a hunting season is needed this soon. I totally agree that those that have wolves on their property that are bothering pets and livestock can blast away, though.
1 posted on 04/13/2008 4:28:08 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin
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I'm not sure that I could shoot these for sport. I could in anger, though. ;)

2 posted on 04/13/2008 4:29:20 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: SJackson; girlangler

Midwest Ping-Worthy?


3 posted on 04/13/2008 4:29:51 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I agree Diana, I couldn’t shoot these pretty animals as a sport, but if they were attacking my livestock or family, I would have to shoot them...

I luv anything to do with Wolves, I collect anything to do with them...


4 posted on 04/13/2008 4:32:49 PM PDT by Poetgal26 (God bless the US Military and our vets! (RIP Sgt Matthew Maupin))
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Gee...Maybe our forefathers knew what they were doing?? Who would have thunk!!


5 posted on 04/13/2008 4:33:29 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

If I was going to hunt, I’d like to hunt wolves.


6 posted on 04/13/2008 5:11:44 PM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Kill them with kindness, then taser them for fun.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve been reading about the wolves in Wisconsin, started to freepmail you a few stories.

Like you, I wouldn’t mind having them here, unless they attacked my pets, were eating the neighbors’ livestock. Back in the early 1990s they stocked red wolves in the Smokies nearby, but they didn’t survive long. Lots of people who camped in the Smokies used to say they loved to hear the howling.


7 posted on 04/13/2008 5:31:25 PM PDT by girlangler (Fish Fear Me)
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To: girlangler

The first time I heard coyotes, I freaked out, LOL!

I was camping near Lake Martinez in the NV desert. I was all of 18 and had never before left the ‘asphalt jungle’ where I grew up.

I’ll never forget that tingle down my spine...and that was just a coyote, LOL!


8 posted on 04/13/2008 5:54:17 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; Jeff Head

My only question is....what caliber???


9 posted on 04/13/2008 6:45:26 PM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Coyotes—almost unlike other animals—have actually extended their range in North America. They used to be mostly desert animals, but we’ve seen them living even in urban areas (like for example the American River Parkway in Sacramento, CA near my house).


10 posted on 04/13/2008 7:24:08 PM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: Travis McGee
I like .308.

They are already hunting them in Wyoming. Soon, we will be hunting them here in IDaho.

11 posted on 04/13/2008 7:46:27 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free...never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Poetgal26
I collect anything to do with them...

Pelts are nice..........

12 posted on 04/13/2008 9:54:26 PM PDT by cowboyway ("No damn man kills me and lives." -- Nathan Bedford Forrest)
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To: LongElegantLegs

Hmphh.....


13 posted on 04/14/2008 6:04:53 AM PDT by Shyla
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To: Shyla

Never YOUR wolves, of course. :-)
It just seems more fair than hunting harmless little bambi.


14 posted on 04/14/2008 9:50:54 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (Kill them with kindness, then taser them for fun.)
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To: RayChuang88

Re: Coyotes. I see them quite frequently, when I’m up at dawn walking the dog. (Whitetail Deer, Wild Turkey, Sandhill Cranes, too!) It’s not unusual for us to see a coyote trotting across the field from the lake across the road where he’s just had a Canada Goose Breakfast. :)

Plenty-o-scat on our walks, too. My male dog has to hit every pile we see. I used to date a guy who ended up in the middle of nowhere out west studying coyote and wolf scat to see what they were eating locally. I think of him often, LOL!


15 posted on 04/14/2008 4:54:58 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Iowa Granny; Ladysmith; Diana in Wisconsin; JLO; sergeantdave; damncat; phantomworker; joesnuffy; ..

If you’d like to be on or off this Upper Midwest/outdoors/rural list please FR mail me. And ping me is you see articles of interest.


16 posted on 04/14/2008 5:08:46 PM PDT by SJackson (Inner city folk--bitter, cling to Sat Nite Specials, Gospel, rap--hate folk not like them)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I'm not sure if a hunting season is needed this soon. I totally agree that those that have wolves on their property that are bothering pets and livestock can blast away, though.

I agree. And a 30 tag "season", that sounds like a problem better left to the equivalent of agricultural tags.

17 posted on 04/14/2008 5:15:19 PM PDT by SJackson (Inner city folk--bitter, cling to Sat Nite Specials, Gospel, rap--hate folk not like them)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; girlangler

Oh come on... I can’t wait to get my first wolf.


18 posted on 04/14/2008 6:49:47 PM PDT by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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To: All; SJackson

UPDATE:

http://www.madison.com/tct/news/stories/281655

Wolf hunt spurs howls at hearing

Tim Eisele
Special to The Capital Times — 4/15/2008 12:54 pm

The potential for a wolf hunting season generated the most interest at the annual Dane County Conservation Congress hearing Monday night at the Alliant Energy Center Exhibition Hall.

The hearing held by the state Department of Natural Resources on specific hunting and fishing rule changes was followed by debate on advisory questions asked by the congress.

An estimated 365 people attended. Votes will be tabulated today.

The gray wolf has made a dramatic comeback and has been taken off the Federal Threatened and Endangered Species list. The wolf population in Wisconsin is predicted to continue to increase if no control methods are implemented.

The advisory question asked whether the DNR, the Wisconsin Conservation Congress and the Legislature should adopt a hunting season and harvest goals to maintain the wolf population within DNR management objectives.

That drew howls of concern from 13 people who objected.

Rob Alexander of Middleton said that he was “concerned with lethal control of wolves because they are social animals, and if you shoot one you will affect the rest of the pack and pups, and that seems cruel.”

Two representatives of the Dane County Humane Society said the organization is opposed to hunting wolves.

Patricia Randolph of Portage also criticized the proposed hunt.

“I don’t understand how reasonable, sane men can think that they can eat hamburger every day but they can’t have a wild animal take a cow,” said Randolph, an animal rights activist who was a Dane County Conservation Congress delegate from 1999-2002. “They can’t have depredation of livestock from those (wolves) that have to eat in the wild.”

Ruth Gundlach of Madison said that she was not opposed to controlling animals by hunting.

“I believe that hunting is a far more humane way of killing animals than stockyards, but I am concerned about the wolf’s social structure, and I don’t know how you could do this without causing problems in raising young wolves,” Gundlach said.

However, Jack Hurst of Madison said it was not too long ago that the gray wolf was considered extinct, and now it has come back more than anyone anticipated.

“The DNR has all kinds of valuable information and I think we ought to let them do their job and manage our natural resources the way they see fit,” Hurst said.

Other issues

An advisory question asking whether people favored action by the Legislature to ban deer feeding and baiting statewide did not draw a single comment.

Questions about a catch-and-release season for muskies north of U.S. 10 and requiring anglers to use artificial lures with barbless hooks brought comments from anglers who were unhappy that the rule came through the recent state budget and not through any public hearing process.

Jim Olson, a muskie fisherman from Madison, said it was poor public policy to have this rule in place and he urged people to vote “no” on the questions.

The other controversial question was about legislation that would require all future Managed Forest Law contracts to allow public access as currently defined in state statute.

Five people asked that the proposal not be adopted.

Karen Meyer Stoebig of Madison said that her family had a small acreage that is in Managed Forest Law and said if this became law, her land would probably pass to a big landowner who wouldn’t let anyone on the land.

Steve Holaday, a DNR forester, said the program is the single-most important one in terms of long-term forest management on privately owned lands. He said the DNR is not in favor of a change because it would greatly discourage participation in the program by private landowners.

The participants re-elected Brad Wagner of Middleton to a two-year term on the congress, and Jayne Meyer of Madison to a three-year term.

Other incumbent Dane County delegates are Joe Caputo of McFarland and Jim Shurts and Al Phelan of Madison.


19 posted on 04/15/2008 1:10:40 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
I don’t understand how reasonable, sane men can think that they can eat hamburger every day but they can’t have a wild animal take a cow...

I suspect he doesn't own any cows. Wonder how he feels about dogs?

20 posted on 04/15/2008 1:25:38 PM PDT by SJackson (Inner city folk--bitter, cling to Sat Nite Specials, Gospel, rap--hate folk not like them)
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