DIG!
We've got our own oil...let's go get it!
Posted on 04/14/2008 7:32:18 PM PDT by Dane
With oil prices skyrocketing, and everybody agreeing in saying that the US should be out of OPEC's grip, there are divergent opinions on how to do it.
Me, I want to see a Manhattan/Moon shot type of project, where the US focuses right now on getting out of the grips of OPEC and a petroleum based economy. I know, I know, some elite Rush conservatives on FR will say that I am a heretic, for not waiting for pure economic theory to come through, but hey you Rush elitists, the pure economic theory is not working and people are hurting.
I am sick and tired of every time I fill up my gas tank, that the money goes to islamofascists and artificial ski hills in Dubai, but of course the Rush conservatives will say it is akin to some simple jamoke complaining about ATM fees and poo-poo the complaint, ala obama complaining about the hicks in small town Pennsylvania.
Well I have vented, and hope that you will give your suggestion and solution to the predicament that we are in now.
OH, BTW, saying that one is for alternative energy(be it hydrogen, coal nuclear, solar, etc.) is not kissing al gore's ring, but is a national security issue, and that is where the debate should be, not this globaloney crap.
We should have figured this lesson out after the first Arab oil embargo in 1973, but alas.
Perhaps if our politicians ( R’s and D’s) weren’t such money-grubbing whores we might have actually solved this problem.
Agree with you completely. Its absolutely a national security issue, and it absolutely deserves government money to subsidise and foster nukes first and foremost, and then to move away from petroleum powered transportation.
I totally agree we should get away from petroleum if or whenever possible, but at the same time we should explore what oil sources we may have within our own country.
Please, stop this nonsense of above, the saudi's and the Persian Gulf emirates have us by the cajones, and also what is wrong with trying to state that the US should be energy independent, be it from the suadi's, Canadians, Mexicans, Brazilians, etc.etc.
Get Bush to raise his hand.
You could have probably made your point without deliberately trying to offend people.
I would recommend reposting it without all the anti-Rush crap. You might get more responses from a wider audience.
Just sayin.
I agree. The first step to solving a problem is to define it without any emotional bias.
and then to move away from (middle eastern) petroleum powered transportation. We should have been drilling off the coasts of the US and Anwar for thirty years now.
We should be energy independent, but we should also stop living in the myth world that we get most of our oil from the ME.
And what is the typical Rush response? Paraphrasing Rush, "My friends in the oil industry tell me there is no problem, be happy that you are not waiting in line for gas".
Basically the other side of the obama coin.
re crude oil: OPEC isn’t your problem. Russia is.
Maybe we shouldn’t vote for Presidents that hold hands with Saudi oil barons and open oil companies with the bin Ladens.
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The problem is the politicians. The Democrats are dead set against doing anything useful, because the worse the problem gets, the more they can blame it on the Republicans.
And the environmentalists are getting more and more insane every day. Global warming is a complete red herring, which is distracting everyone from the real energy and pollution problems. Ethanol is a political scam of the worst kind.
And let’s not neglect the probable importance of bribery. Politicians are being bought off by the oil interests. Not by Exxon, which gets the blame, but by the Saudis, Dubhai, even the Russians.
And the Culture of Death exponents don’t want to solve the problem. The more people they manage to kill off or abort with this insanity, the better.
The solutions are well known. But the politicians are not even beginning to solve them. Why should they, when there is more political profit in making them worse?
We've got our own oil...let's go get it!
I’m with Fred Thompson on this one...(not into raising my hand).
I imagine the ratio of rants to suggestions will be 99 to 1. When did FR stop being the source of action and become the clown punching bag of the internet?
Of course you will not have an answer to your reactionary post.
What motivation does the oil companies have to invest billions into drilling new wells?
It happened when the clowns so called Conservatives started asking for someone to come say I'm from the government,I'm here to help...
“We should have figured this lesson out after the first Arab oil embargo in 1973, but alas.”
Most of the people figured it out.
What they finally figured out was that the government was going to do nothing about it.
And that is right. It is not the governments responsibility.
It all falls on the people for electing idiots who think muskeg swamps are more important than ANWR oil. It falls on the people for electing idiots who think that Saudi Arabia is our friend.
It falls on the people for electing idiots who think that carbon emissions are good enough reason why we shouldn’t develop more coal fired power plants.
Government is not responsible for our energy dependence.
It falls on the people for electing the government idiots who think their job is more important than national security.
We aren’t going to change a thing if we keep electing, and re-electing the same idiots who promise this and that same ol bla bla bla investigate and fix mentality.
You win the Ronald Reagan award for logical, self sufficient thinking of the day. Our problems are because too many people have wanted the government to fix(sic) the problem in the first place.
You want to destroy infrastructure that belongs to American companies?
Unfortunately I have found many conservatives to be only slightly more consistent in their ideology as liberals.
It has become all about what “I” want not what is right.
“We aren’t going to change a thing if we keep electing, and re-electing the same idiots who promise this and that same ol bla bla bla investigate and fix mentality.”
I don’t think you understand politics. You can take the most sincere and dedicated candidate and after 2 years in Washington or a State capitol they will become as jaded and corrupt as the long term party machine aparatchiks.
It’s how the systme is built.
You want to make something happen you have to make it happen by those in power NOW. Wise is the man or woman who understands how to accomplish that and brave is he/she that can do it in their lifetime.
You don’t see the issue. It’s okay. Your thread.
Does your response not count as a rant?
If just 50% of the whining could be channeled into useful action on only 20% of the issues, a sea change would take place.
But it is too easy to just whine about it, pop a Bud and convince yourself you are the victim.
In the interest of fair disclosure I would observe I myself am at this point engaging in the same activities for which I whine.
But then again, at one point I at least took a shot at changing the world.
See 37.
He should then sign an executive order that forbids any importation of hydrocarbon fuels except from a few limited friendly countries such as Canada and Mexico, and that limit would be enforced by auction of import licenses and the number of licenses would be cut gradually on a published schedule so that it would reach the target amount on that DATE CERTAIN.
Having a firm date would justify investment in the necessary industrial capacity. The free market would set the price of hydrocarbons based on the supply and demand of the moment. Given that some conversion technologies have a break-even price that is at or below the present price, the cost of gasoline or diesel at the pump might not even go up under this plan.
The US has twice the hydrocarbon resources of Arab OPEC if we would only develop them.
Ahh but my FRiend, you take a shot yourself instead of whining someone else (the government) isn't doing it..
You’re calling for regulation of the oil industry?
The only pure economic theory that's been practiced in America over the last 75 years is Keynesian socialism. The "problem" causing gas & food prices to go crazy isn't OPEC, its the fact that we've tapped out of credit rating and the international market is taking that out of the value of the dollar.
Basically, the "problem" is that its time to pay for the Manhatten Project, and Social Security, and Medicare, and NASA, and well, everything we've put on the national credit card.
Yet we still have the same pandering whores in Washington.
The following is a link to a PDF presentation by the Office of the Secretary of Defense on Fuels It contains maps and charts showing the location and quantities of US hydrocarbon resources:
http://www.westgov.org/wieb/meetings/boardsprg2005/briefing/ppt/congressionalbrief.pdf
There will always be pandering whores in Washington. The key is making that work for you not against.
BTW - Like your tag.
It has become all about what “I” want not what is right.
Can we agree on one thing, that $3.50/gal gas is not right, and can we get out of these idealogical purity sub threads, and actually solve the problem.
It makes no sense to keep re-electing a politician who says they will get the job done this time and don’t.
We just as well elect someone new every time and maybe one will actually accomplish something in their “freshman enthusiasm”.
I fully understand politics. We don’t usually get to pick the people we feel will serve us best. We are bullied into “accepting” a 3rd choice every time because the fix is in.
If you think we should just accept that the good ol boys are going to do whatever they want and we don’t have the option of term limiting them via election, then you are the one who don’t understand politics.
Okay. Paragraph #3. That is fair enough.
So, what’s your plan? The U.S. gubmint orders the oil companies to drill domestic wells? The U.S. gubmint sets up a company to compete with private industry? We all just grab shovels and picks, and head on out there?
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