Posted on 04/17/2008 10:54:25 AM PDT by Boxen
I also believe many of the references in the Bible that have been obscure for a few thousand years can now be more aptly considered with our scientific understanding.
I believe it is very likely that the Nephilim were a reference to the other hominids that existed parallel with modern humanity for a time and could easily have been a racial memory in the time the first stories of our origins were handed down. Genesis then finally makes perfect sense!
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Actually, you are an ape. The great apes are the members of the biological family Hominidae which includes humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans.
The producers have debunked all these claims already.
I also have to say that apparently SciAm hasn’t heard of Social Darwinism. That is tied to eugenics very well. Whether the passage is selectively quoted or not, the point is still valid.
It seems to be in a lot of theaters to...have tons playing it around here unlike most documentaries.
That isn’t the point of the film...it is about how people are silenced.
It isn’t about religion. It is true many people are theistic evolutionists.
I personally think some of the evidence for evolution is strong and some other evidence could actually point in the direction of intelligent design, but regardless, God is involved.
If Nature does not wish that weaker individuals should mate with the stronger, she wishes even less that a superior race should intermingle with an inferior one; because in such a case all her efforts, throughout hundreds of thousands of years, to establish an evolutionary higher stage of being, may thus be rendered futile. - MEIN KAMPF by Adolf Hitler
b) Aliens from another planet and/or dimension travelled to this planet and -- deliberately or accidentally -- seeded the planet with the first life forms.
c) In the future, humans will develop a means to travel back in time. They will use this technology to plant the first life forms in Earth's past, making the existence of life a causality loop.
d) A divine agent of unspecified nature zap-poofed the first life forms into existence.
e) Any method other than the four described above led to the existence of the first life forms.
The theory of evolution works just fine with any of these.
Well spread the good news! Coyoteman has just declared "A divine (i.e., having the nature of or being a deity) agent of unspecified nature zap-poofed the first life forms into existence, or what science knows as Creationism! Welcome to the Light side Coyoteman; you have learned something!
If you read Alfred Rosenberg's The Myth of the Twentieth Century, the second most influential Nazi text after Mein Kampf, and the most explicit and extensive discussion of Nazi race philosophy, you discover that the Nazis believed human races to be primeval, with their distinct "race souls" created by God.
The Nazis weren't trying to "advance" evolution, as Ben Stein has claimed; they were trying to reverse and undo human evolution. Their goal was to restore the racial purity, the purity of "the blood" and the race soul carried in the blood, which God had created in the beginning.
The "evolution" which Nazis actually embraced was not Darwinian but pre-Darwinian. It invoked the pre-Darwinian meaning of "evolution" as "unfolding": the playing out of a prefigured plan of development. The Nazis believed the primeval races had distinct geniuses and distinct destinies. The supposed genius of the "Aryan" race was for conquest and rule, and therefore it's destiny was to conquer and enslave other races. This destiny had been foiled by "race mixing" and the dilution of racial purity. Thus reversing (normal) evolution and restoring racial purity was a necessary aspect of the Nazi program.
I think you need to examine my FR page before continuing in this vein.
"thusly"
AAAARRRGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
3. Word Choice: New Uses, Common Confusion, and Constraints§ 282. thusly
The adverb thusly was created in the 19th century as an alternative for thus in sentences such as Hold it thus or He put it thus. It appears to have been first used by humorists, who may have been echoing the speech of poorly educated people straining to sound stylish. The word has subsequently gained some currency in educated usage, but it is still often regarded as incorrect. A large majority of the Usage Panel found it unacceptable in an earlier survey. In formal writing, thus can still be used as in the examples above; in other styles, expressions such as this way and like this are more natural.
— The American Heritage® Book of English Usage. Copyright © 1996 by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved
Sorry. Pet peeve.
Oh, and check out Matthew 7:21...
Fish, meet barrel.
Cheers!
They really have a small amount of nitpicking cr*p to denounce the film. Looks like their fishing for more to make their counter punch. Maybe, Bill Maher can help.
Are you under the impression that evolutionary scientists and the folks doing global warming stuff are the same folks? What is the point of mentioning evos in your comments regarding global warming?
The only “confirmation” I see in all this is that Ben has hit a home run; that he is pretty close to the truth; and that it is terrifying the “scientific” community.
You know the history of a Theory? A theory is unproven fact. Its conjecture based on slim evidence, which is why its the Theory of Evolution not the Fact of Evolution.
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LOL.
I have heard of the Theory of Gravity, but I don’t recall reading about the Fact of Gravity in any science textbook I ever encountered.
And you’re gonna get in trouble with Coyoteman when you demonstrate a complete lack of understanding in how ordinary language and scientific jargon treat the word ‘theory’ very differently.
To attempt to discredit evolutionary scientists and the science they perform based on the global warming crowd is a logical fallacy of the most transparent sort.
They really have a small amount of nitpicking cr*p to denounce the film.
You might question that accuracy of the critiques. That would at least be interesting. But calling them "nitpicking" is just sheer denial, and ludicrous on its face. Critics have called into question the entire premise of the film; the central theme reflected in the very name of the movie. They said that the ID'ers in the movie were not in fact "expelled". That people who the movie claims were fired weren't fired at all, that people who claim to be persecuted weren't punished at all.
"None are so blind as those who will not see."
Germany's eugenic sterilization law, which went into effect on January 1, 1934, is no hasty improvisation of the Nazi regime. It has been taking shape gradually during many years, in the discussions of eugenicists. From one point of view, it is merely an accident that it happened to be the Hitler administration which was ready to put into effect the recommendations of specialists.
But Hitler himself - though a bachelor - has long been a convinced advocate of race betterment through eugenic measures. Probably his earlier thinking was colored by Nietzsche, but he studied the subject more thoroughly during his years in prison, following the abortive revolutionary movement of 1923. Here, it is said, he came into possession of the two-volume text on heredity and eugenics, by E. Baur, E. Fischer, and F. Lenz, which is the best-known statement of eugenics in the German language, and evidently studied it to good purpose. In his book, Mein Kampf, most of which was written during these prison years, and which outlines most of the policies since adopted by the Nazis as a political party, he bases his hopes of national regeneration solidly on the application of biological principles to human society.
Exactly what one might say about the so-called scientists.
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