Posted on 04/17/2008 10:54:25 AM PDT by Boxen
It’s just a movie...
I have no dog in this fight, but I'll bump this thread for that line alone. Well done, weegee.
I’m well aware of the differentiation between an athiest and an agnostic, seeing as I consider myself the latter.
The way I put my personal belief system is that I’m open to the existence of beings more powerful than us, but any god whose sole concern is the life on Earth can’t be a very important god. That being said, from your 3 choices, I’ll pick B or C, more likely C than B but I’m willing to consider both options.
I’ll go one further than you with respect to AGW though. CO2 makes up 380ppm of our atmosphere, to put that into perspective, it’s 0.03% of the dry atmosphere (it goes down to about 1/4 of that value if you include moisture, but atmospheric composition is relatively constant when moisture is normalized out.) How can a gas that makes up so little of the atmosphere have such a large effect? It’s not possible. Water vapour makes up more of the atmosphere on average and has a stronger “greenhouse” effect associated with it than CO2. Also, CO2 concentrations lag temperature changes.
Curious if they make similiar complaints about the staging of basically every Michael Moore and Al Gore movie.
;-)
So you believe there are two kinds of matter - living and non-living?
You're "science" is almost 200 years out of date.
Boy, I had to laugh out loud at this one. It's like Hillary saying Bill was the perfect husband.
Is God alive?
Where did his life come from?
Maybe, but then again, that's not their thing, Science is. Regardless, it is an intellectually dishonest tactic, whether Mikey Moore does it, or this movie. Its a shame.
Are you kidding? Some fundamentalists hate the Catholics more than they hate the Muslims or atheists.
When those who choose not to believe in God, cannot believe in God, or for whatever other reason do not believe in God (the right not to do so I fully support, although I do believe) say things like you said: “ Im not a religious person myself, and I find no need for it, but if you need to believe to get through your day, go ahead. I wont stop you,” you sell believers short. You seem pretty intelligent, so I must assume you meant it as a slight to believers.
Many of us who believe in God do not do so “to get through our day” as you say. We believe because we are led to believe. I imagine that there are some who say they believe in order to comfort themselves in some manner, and others who say they believe in order to fit in with those they wish to associate with. There may be other reasons for SAYING that one believes when one does not really believe.
But I venture to say that MOST of those who believe in God do so out of a sense of internal logic, personal experience and/or a true, abiding faith totally independent of any comfort or relief that the belief may provide. In fact, there are many religious believers whose faith requires them to deny themselves pleasures and benefits that, as a matter of convenience, they would never do by choice.
In short, true faith is not something one merely elects to have (or pretend to have). For those who do not believe and who say so, I respect that and I respect the honesty of it. Because I believe, however, I hope and pray (yes, pray) that non-believers will be open to receiving the gift of faith if that gift should find its way to their doorstep.
Agreed. I enjoy a rousing (*dons monocle*) debate as much as the next guy, but some people (read: FR, the internet, etc) will always take this kind of stuff too seriously.
..except of course those innocent babies our civilized medical men butcher clear up until they are almost born, but hey, those high-minded science-lovers do everything else to keep people alive, right?
And I'm not a professional debater either, but I think that's called "logic."
Silly! That movie doesn't threaten their belief system!
I wasn’t aware that evolutionary biologists were doing abortions in there spare time.
Please do provide proof of what you say. It would be most interesting.
I’ve been burned too many times by Hollywood. I’ll wait for the DVD, rather than pay more for popcorn and a drink than another (possibly) bad movie/`documentary’.
Anyway, from your post it looks like `Wild Ben’ Stein—like Mikey Moore—is preaching to the choir, and he’s one of the reasons I cancelled my Weekly Standard.
Hey, you know what’s ironically funny?
Homosexuals at Scientific American defending evolution.
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