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Top 10 Smartest and Dumbest Dog Breeds
CBS4.com ^ | 4/7/08

Posted on 04/28/2008 1:05:46 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks

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To: Clint N. Suhks
I resent the suggestion that my Beagle is not highly intelligent.


101 posted on 04/28/2008 1:59:15 PM PDT by keat (What I wouldn't give for a nice pair of Moccasocks.)
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To: Lizavetta
What about weiner dogs?

From an interview with a German Shepherd: "They're good with ketsup and mustard......"

102 posted on 04/28/2008 1:59:18 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who plugged the hole in the ozone layer?)
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To: HairOfTheDog

now that’s a fun ping! thanks


103 posted on 04/28/2008 2:00:49 PM PDT by RDTF (my worst nightmare is being on jury duty sequestered with 11 liberals)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I didn't make the list...

My Chloe did and anyone who ranks Bassett Hounds at number 10 hasn't met her :)

104 posted on 04/28/2008 2:01:12 PM PDT by Bahbah (Typical white person)
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To: Hot Tabasco
Somewhere in the FR archives is an account of a German shepherd and an Irish setter who were stupid enough to tackle a standard dachshund. The weiner dog lost one eye and needed 20 stitches; the setter needed over 100 stitches, and the German shepherd had to be euthanized at the scene by cops responding to the disturbance because the dachshund had eviscerated him.
105 posted on 04/28/2008 2:03:26 PM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Off topic a little but funny...E-mail I received a few days ago.

The Purina Diet.

-——When someone asks you a dumb question wouldn’t you like to respond like
this?.....

Yesterday I was buying a large bag of Purina dog chow at Wal-Mart for Athena the wonder dog and was about to check out. A woman behind me
asked if I had a dog. What did she think I had, an elephant? So since
I’m retired, with little to do, on impulse, I told her that no, I didn’t
have a dog, and that I was starting the Purina Diet again.

Although I probably shouldn’t, because I’d ended up in the hospital last
time, but that I’d lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care
ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.

I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that
it works is to load your pants pockets with Purina nuggets and simply
eat one or two every time you feel hungry and that the food is
nutritionally comple te so I was going to try it again. (I have to
mention here that practically everyone in the line was by now enthralled
with my story.)

Horrified , she asked if I ended up in intensive care because the dog
food poisoned me. I told her no; I stepped off a curb to sniff an Irish
Setter’s ass and a car hit us both.

I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack, he was
laughing so hard!

WAL-MART won’t let me shop there anymore.


106 posted on 04/28/2008 2:03:37 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I wouldn’t recommend a Border Collie unless you have a minimum of five acres, preferably fenced. They like to run themselves ragged, and then run some more.


107 posted on 04/28/2008 2:03:38 PM PDT by riverdawg
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To: envisio
“Same thing with “ride” or “outside” or “kitty””

My English Springer, deceased a long time now, would go nuts at the words “hunt”, Gun”, “shoot”, or almost anything related to hunting.

If he saw any one of us getting our shotguns out he would be at the van in a heartbeat. He would place himself on the porch so he could watch the van and the road down to the woods. If we tried to sneak out the back door and around the neighbors house he could still see us just before we would enter the woods and would be by our side in less than a minute.

I miss him.

108 posted on 04/28/2008 2:04:19 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Border Collies are smart, but they also have high energy. Probably be shoving a ball in your wife’s lap instead of sitting in it.


109 posted on 04/28/2008 2:05:03 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: VA Voter

The Border Collie and the Standard Poodle are usually ranked one or two, sometimes switching places depending on who made the list.

The Border Collie gets high marks because of it’s tremendous skill as a herder, it’s said the Standard Poodle smarts are more applicable to it’s interactions with humans as it’s uses have always involved human interaction so unless you’re herding things you’re experience will be that the Poodle is smartest.

I’ve also read that all dogs are basically of the same intelligence it’s just that their intelligence as they interact and relate to HUMANS is different. The Afghans are high-strung and independent and don’t necessarily WANT to listen to humans, doesn’t make them idiots. The Poodle LIVES to please humans, hence their history as hunting dogs, circus dogs, etc. Their intelligence as they relate to us is a large step above any dog I’ve owned or known.

This was best put by my old girlfriend originally from Israel who has never quite mastered the nuances of the English language.

I would love to have an Afghan, they’re so beautiful, but did you ever try to talk to one? They’re so stupid! I told her yes, they’re horrible conversationalists.

You can talk to the Poodle, they pick up things very quickly, I taught my dog to sit and give me his paw in literally 5 minutes and never had to teach him again. They can have a huge library of words and phrases they understand, get specific toys, etc.


110 posted on 04/28/2008 2:05:16 PM PDT by word_warrior_bob (You can now see my amazing doggie and new puppy on my homepage!! Come say hello to Jake & Sonny)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I’ve owned two and both are exceptionally smart animals. In fact, anytime I meet other dogs I’m always profoundly grateful that my choice was the Golden breed. Of course, good owners usually have a lot to do with the outcome of the animal, too...


111 posted on 04/28/2008 2:06:20 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Don't cheer for Obama too hard - the krinton syndicate is moving back into the WH.)
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To: subterfuge

Horses train easily but are quite stupid.Easily trained humans are as we call in general terms, sheep. One of the most intelgent dogs not even mentioned is a Jack Russel Terrier IMHO.Chows are very independent, hard to train but have an uncanny ability to reason as a JRT does.Being smart has nothing to do with being submissive.


112 posted on 04/28/2008 2:06:35 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: Red Badger

The pooch has more brains in THAT contest.


113 posted on 04/28/2008 2:07:21 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: savedbygrace

I have my 4th golden here. He is dumb as a rock..
.........when he wants to be


114 posted on 04/28/2008 2:09:00 PM PDT by sonic109
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To: Squawk 8888
Is it just me, or does that Afghan bear an uncanny resemblance to Paris Hilton?

The Afghan hound is smarter.

115 posted on 04/28/2008 2:10:41 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; Lizavetta
I agree. My golden is the dumbest dog, by far, of all the dogs I have ever owned.

My dachshunds on the other hand, have all been incredibly smart.

116 posted on 04/28/2008 2:10:42 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: Clint N. Suhks
The Golden made the list twice -- they put in a photo of a Golden (with pup) as a Labrador!

The heads are very different (although there's some variation in the breeds). Also, look at the long hair on the chest and the legs. And the Golden puppy fluff on the pup.


117 posted on 04/28/2008 2:15:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Clint N. Suhks

They are assessing trainability, not intelligence. My much beloved Chow Chow was the most intelligent animal I have ever known, but quite stubborn. Her understanding of vocabulary, body language, judge of character, and just being able to read my mind were unbelievable. She could do things on a whim, with no training... When I would get home late, she would shake my socks around. One time, under my breath, I commented in an even conversational tone, “Why don’t you do something useful like get my pajamas?” She came back with my pajamas in her mouth. The amazing thing is I could never even train her to fetch a toy.

She made up her mind to just give up after being diagnosed with terminal cancer. The cancer had already spread, and after five days she wouldn’t eat or drink anymore. I had a very quiet talk with her, explaining that one of the things I loved and respected most about her was her love of life and indomitable spirit— I asked her to please, just for me, fight this thing to the end since a vaccine for her type of cancer was due out in weeks to months. She understood, gave me this look, like “Okay. I’ll fight it to the end. For you.” She begin to eat and drink moments later, and even to the last day of her life she fought with everything she had. It is coming up on a year now since I lost her, and not a day goes by that I don’t think of how much I loved that little bear, or how much I miss her.


118 posted on 04/28/2008 2:15:35 PM PDT by LambSlave
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To: eastforker
One of the most intelgent dogs not even mentioned is a Jack Russel Terrier IMHO.

Quite right. My wife wants to add a JR to our menagerie, but I refused. I consider JR's to be the canine equivalent of a velociraptor. Highly intelligent problem solvers. I can't handle a dog like that.

119 posted on 04/28/2008 2:16:45 PM PDT by Tallguy (Tagline is offline till something better comes along...)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

English Mastiff’s aren’t stupid at all. They are lazy. That isn’t the same thing.
My dog knows when my wife gets out of bed he can climb up and sleep with me. (I work shift work.) When she is home he sleeps in his dog bed. He just has little interest in exerting himself for anything other than hanging around me.
I think they forgot what the dogs were designed for.


120 posted on 04/28/2008 2:17:24 PM PDT by IrishCatholic (No local communist or socialist party chapter? Join the Democrats, it's the same thing.)
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To: 21twelve

LOL!

Smart dog.


121 posted on 04/28/2008 2:17:37 PM PDT by fanfan ("We don't start fights my friends, but we finish them, and never leave until our work is done."PMSH)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Depends on the Golden.

Both Goldens and Labs have split up into show type dogs and field type dogs.

The field types of both breeds have TONS of brains but diverge from the show standard in the looks department. The field Labs are rangy and tall on their legs, more like hounds, and the field Goldens have almost no coat.

The show breeders don't breed for brains, so that's what they DON'T necessarily get. They may get it by accident, but that's not what they're aiming at.

So you may get a smart show Lab or Golden, but if you want a better chance of a dog with brains, you're better off going for the field dogs.

122 posted on 04/28/2008 2:19:53 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: LambSlave

How right you are about chows. Anyone who would say otherwise has never been up close and personal with one. They only give their alegience to a human once. Thats why they can only be a one owner dog and thats for life, either the humans or the dogs.


123 posted on 04/28/2008 2:21:19 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: Tallguy

Yep, you better give them a job or they will make one up and you may not like it.


124 posted on 04/28/2008 2:23:05 PM PDT by eastforker (Get-R-Done and then Bring-Em- Home)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Both the smartest dog and the dumbest dog I have ever had were from the same litter. There mother was a cockapoo. The smart one Peter looked like a German Shepard puppy his entire life. He would carry the cats kittens around for her. Dum Dumb was black and looked like a fuzzy mop. If you went behind the Christmas tree and called him would look at the tree then run away roll on the floor and pee on him self.
125 posted on 04/28/2008 2:23:31 PM PDT by ThomasThomas (The afternoonThomasThomas wore his wolf suit and made mischief of one kind and another ....")
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To: Red Badger
I had a memorable experience with a Standard Poodle 2 summers ago. I was lying on my lounge chair on my back deck one day when this poodle came up onto my deck and stuck its nose into my ear. Scared the heck out of me!

I jumped up and it ran off the deck into the back yard and just stood there. I tried to coax it over but it just wouldn’t come so I laid back down. About 10 minutes later it did the same thing and when I got up it went back out into the back yard. Again I tried to coax it over but it just kept its distance.

Again I laid back down and again the dog came up onto the deck but this time it laid down at the foot of my lounge chair and allowed me to pet it and it stayed. I then went into the house and got a leash and came back out and attached it to its collar and tethered it to the deck railing.

I then went into the house and called the local humane society and asked if anyone had reported the dog missing and they said yes and asked me if I would bring it to them. I told them I only had a 2 seater car and that the dog wouldn’t fit so I asked them to give me the owner’s phone number so I could call them about the dog. They informed me that that was private info and that they could not give me that information.

I then gave them my phone info and requested they have the family call me if they called back. About an hour later, I got a call from the humane society who said that the family had called again and if it was ok they call me………DUH! I already requested that.

Anyway, about 15 minutes later the family called and as it turned out, they were in my neighborhood looking for the dog. A few minutes later the two sons showed up in their vehicle and reclaimed the dog.

Here is the kicker: the dog had wandered thru multiple subdivisions covering a span of about 4 miles to finally end up at my place.

That made my day but also alerted me to a potential problem with dealing with the humane society…………

126 posted on 04/28/2008 2:23:34 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Who plugged the hole in the ozone layer?)
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To: libstripper

You should see our bedtime ritual. Dogs are already in the bed when we get ready to go to bed, so hubby pushes the sleeping dogs aside so he can crawl into his spot. Then the female 75 lbs, who is the alpha, picks out her favorite spot (which is near my husband), then the male 90 lbs finds his spot (also as near to my husband as he can), and I get what’s leftover, LOL. Thank the Lord for king size beds.

Sounds like your dog practices the sport of bed wrestling:

The age old sport of bed wrestling has been practiced between dogs and humans for centuries. It is very subtle, slow-moving, and can take all night, so it isn’t much of a spectator sport. To the combatants, however, it is very intense.

It starts out with one or two humans placed lengthwise in a bed, with a dog curled up at the bottom near their feet. For a human to win, all he or she has to do is stay in the same spot until morning. This is not as easy as it seems.

For the dog to win, it takes cunning, persistence, patience and the agility of an eel. The dog has won the wrestling match when it has worked its way from the bottom of the bed to the top, with its head on the pillow and its body under the covers, stretched out to its utmost length-but crosswise in the bed. The dog must do this without actually waking the humans, who will have nightmares about being crushed, and will find themselves in the morning desperately clutching the edge of the mattress to keep from falling on the floor.


127 posted on 04/28/2008 2:23:55 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: IrishCatholic

My next door neighbors have 2 English Mastiffs and have had a series of others, according to them they are the dumbest breed around. The wife would like to have a different breed but her husband won’t hear of it.
Maybe your is an exception, because they have had about 5 in the last 15 years.


128 posted on 04/28/2008 2:24:19 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I can't speak to the purebreds listed....but for the six dumbest animals, I would vote for the 6 (yep....six) dogs that my nextdoor neighbor has.

I can't even walk around in my own backyard without the @$#@%^%#&&% things barking at me.

I will admit, though, that all of the dogs individually are smarter than my neighbor. So I guess they've got that going for them.

129 posted on 04/28/2008 2:27:21 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Clint N. Suhks
I can't speak to the purebreds listed....but for the six dumbest animals, I would vote for the 6 (yep....six) dogs that my nextdoor neighbor has.

I can't even walk around in my own backyard without the @$#@%^%#&&% things barking at me.

I will admit, though, that all of the dogs individually are smarter than my neighbor. So I guess they've got that going for them.

130 posted on 04/28/2008 2:27:37 PM PDT by wbill
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To: Red Badger

No my Lab is dumber than your Lab.


131 posted on 04/28/2008 2:28:14 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
This sounds like the same evaluation that's been making the rounds for awhile.

It's almost entirely obedience based. Very little problem solving or other activities.

So a breed like an Afghan that is bred as a sighthound is going to have little if any proficiency in obedience. While the Border Collie, that is bred to obey complex commands for herding, is going to star. And gundogs are not tested for retrieving and scenting, the skills in which they are absolutely the tops.

My personal opinion is, it's a list that's pretty good on the edges but fuzzy in the middle. In other words, yeah, Afghan Hounds really ARE dumb, and Border Collies really ARE smart.

132 posted on 04/28/2008 2:29:40 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Yeah - like the other respondents said - Border Collies are no lap dogs.

My dog as a kid was a Border Collie. I could bend your ear for hours with stories as to how smart that dog was.

She was born from a litter that the owner didn't want. He promptly drowned all her litter mates. Somehow, she got wind of this, and hid out under his front porch. He didn't even know she existed, for the first week of her life. When he figured out she was there, the story got out, and my Dad took the dog in, hardly two weeks old then, figuring she might be a useful working dog on our dairy farm. That she was, for her whole long life.

She loved riding in the car. The first time we were ever going to take her to the Vet was when she was about a year old. We were taking her into to get spade (fixed.) We figured we'd just jump in the car as usual, and she'd jump in with us, tail wagging as usual, and off we'd go. But she took one look at us, and headed for the hills (literally). It tooks us several hours to find her and order her into the car. To this day, I have no clue how she knew that she didn't want to go for a ride that day.

Each summer, we put the two year old heifers on a neighbors hillside pasture for the summer. Several other farmers did the same. At the end of the summer, we'd borrow a truck, and drive up to the pasture. The dog would go up in the wooded hills, upwards of a mile off, find our heifers (not the neighbors, she remembered which were ours) and bring them back and put them on the truck, for us to tie down and take home. By that point the heifers were as wild as young deer and could jump five foot fences in a single bound. She controlled them in part by nipping at their heels. Have you ever tried nipping the heels of a six hundred pound wild animal, strong enough to jump five feet in the air, while it's doing its level best to crush your skull, when you're twenty five pounds soaking wet? We just stood by the truck, rope in hand, while the dog did all the work.

I'd love to have another Border Collie. But I'd never do so unless I had a herd of sheep or cattle or something of similar challenge, and a minimum of ten or twenty acres of land that needed tending (keeping down the woodchucks, bringing the cows to the barn to milk, something.)

133 posted on 04/28/2008 2:30:48 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow (By their false faith in Man as God, the left would destroy us. They call this faith change.)
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To: fanfan

I agree..mine is very smart.


134 posted on 04/28/2008 2:32:58 PM PDT by glaseatr (Father of a Marine, Uncle of SGT Adam Estep. A Co. 2/5 Cav. KIA Thurs April 29, 2004 Baghdad Iraq)
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To: dawn53

I had a cat once that practiced those same tactics. He
was a beautiful gray and black tabby who weighed 22 pounds
and he was not fat. He was long and tall and one of our
friends thought he was an ocelot. But he was prettier than
that, I thought.


135 posted on 04/28/2008 2:33:57 PM PDT by SwatTeam
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To: AnAmericanMother

Oh I agree Afghans probably are really stupid. In that case I think it’s not because they’re hounds, but because they’ve been bred by show people entirely for hair for the last 50 years.

I was speaking mostly about the bloodhound and beagle, and perhaps the basset, being potentially unfairly evaluated. They are breeds who are typically not good at obedience, but they aren’t dumb, they’re differently wired.


136 posted on 04/28/2008 2:34:39 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Parents have a Border Collie - VERY SMART!

Frankly I love all that are listed.


137 posted on 04/28/2008 2:38:10 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Most intellegent dog we ever owned was a toy poodle. She would put her paw on you leg when traveling to let you know, it is time to pee and NOW.

Of all the animals we raised as kids, she was the momma to all of them.

I could go on and on, but poodles definately earned their top position and probable give the worthy Border a good run for their money...

138 posted on 04/28/2008 2:39:41 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." — Barack Obama)
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To: Lizavetta
I love Dachshunds too!

Smart of dumb. I don't care. They're adorable and fun.

139 posted on 04/28/2008 2:41:20 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: KosmicKitty

#9 another beautiful doggie!!!


140 posted on 04/28/2008 2:42:07 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: bpjam
But Poodles?? Aw, come on!

Smartest dog we ever owned was a toy poodle.. none other we have owned has came close... showed her for a few years. She was absolutely brilliant.

141 posted on 04/28/2008 2:42:56 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." — Barack Obama)
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To: qam1

#37 Beautiful dog. They resemble a Border Collie or is that just the angle?


142 posted on 04/28/2008 2:43:04 PM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: The Mayor
We have a Border Collie, very smart!

we have two Border Collies--Spencer and Penni... neat dogs... easy to train... honestly, they are so smart they seem more like people than animals... we will only ever have Border Collies...

143 posted on 04/28/2008 2:45:11 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: nmh
They resemble a Border Collie or is that just the angle?

they look a lot alike... i think the coloring is different... both are sheep herding dogs... they have the same stances...

144 posted on 04/28/2008 2:47:09 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: ThePythonicCow
My dog as a kid was a Border Collie. I could bend your ear for hours with stories as to how smart that dog was.

I could also.

Your BC knowing not to jump in the truck to go to the vet doesn't surprise me. Mine could read my thoughts also.

One other quickie..
I friend from out West, don't remember which state, had friends that raised cattle and hired cowboys.
He told me the cattle ranchers got rid of the cowboys, 11 if IRCC and got 3 Border Collies.

146 posted on 04/28/2008 2:48:21 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: bpjam
Poodles are another case of divergence within a breed.

It's the Standard Poodles that are pretty smart.

The toy and miniatures have been bred mostly for size, so brains aren't necessarily part of the package. There are some smart ones, but you're just as likely to draw a dumb one.

But while the Standards are smart, they aren't really very good retrievers any more. There is a couple in our hunting retriever club that is trying their hardest to get their Standard Poodles ready for a hunt test. Now, don't get me wrong, these are very smart dogs. But while they were originally gun dogs and water dogs centuries ago, they have lost most of the desire to retrieve, especially in water. They just don't WANT to get in the water to pick up that duck . . . they'll do it, but very reluctantly (while the ruder members of the gallery are hooting and hollering that they don't want to chip their nail polish or mess up their hairdo).

Meanwhile the Labs and Chessies are hitting the water at a dead run with huge splashes and great big grins . . . the problem is keeping them OUT of water.

I guess really the point of all this is that it's easier to get a dog to do what he's been bred for, than to just out of stubbornness or to prove a point try to train a dog to do something he wasn't bred for.

147 posted on 04/28/2008 2:49:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: WayneS
Depends on what you want the dog to do.

I've never seen a beagle do a 250 yard mark in heavy cover.

On the other hand, my Labs aren't very good at tracking rabbits.

I've known Labs that were as dumb as a bag of hammers, of course, but mine are pretty smart. They're intensively trained, though.

148 posted on 04/28/2008 2:53:09 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: latina4dubya

She catches on very quickly except she like to escape and run.

We just got a kitten too and they are just now becoming friends. It should be fun to watch them grow together.

The Border Collie is only a year old and the cat 2 months.


149 posted on 04/28/2008 2:53:52 PM PDT by The Mayor ("A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps" (Prov. 16:9))
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To: Clint N. Suhks

A small one would be good for a lap dog.
Ours is only a year but very light and doesn’t mind being picked up at all.


150 posted on 04/28/2008 2:55:10 PM PDT by The Mayor ("A man's heart plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps" (Prov. 16:9))
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