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New Study: Conservatives are Happier Because They Hate Everyone
Men's News Daily ^ | 5-7-08 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 05/08/2008 7:00:29 AM PDT by Ouderkirk

There is a news report starting to make the rounds amongst the MSM on a study that claims to have discovered why conservatives tend to be happier than liberals and it is just the sort of bilge that the MSM loves to promulgate. We may see more of it over the next several days because, while it is titled “Conservatives Happier Than Liberals,” it is basically saying that the reason conservatives are happier is because they just don’t care about other people. This purported research claims to pinpoint the reason conservatives are happier and it is because they have theirs and they don’t care if everyone else is poor and downtrodden. In contrast they claim liberals are less happy because they care more about people and are all heartbroken that people suffer “inequalities.”

Yes, they are telling us that if you’re a happy conservative, it’s because you are a hateful, meanie. Thank you New York University.

The two “researchers,” John Jost and Jaime Napier of New York University, claim an interest in understanding why religious extremism is connected to conservatives. Both have interests in “political conservatism and religious fundamentalism” wherein they seem to assume that conservatives are but fascists in deed if not name. On her webpage, for instance, Napier says that she is interested to “explore the relationship of political conservatism to ’system justifying’ ideologies, such as opposition to equality, fair market ideology, economic system justification, and right-wing authoritarianism.” Why are conservatives fascists? Jamie wants to know.

Obviously these two researchers have predetermined that conservatism is an evil, oppressive ideology and they have set out to prove their thesis. With this in mind we can turn to the results of their recent “research” that claims that conservatives are happy because they hate everyone else.

Even though Jeanna Bryner of livescience.com puts a happy face on the story with her headline, the text following clearly casts conservatives in the worst possible light. Her very first line provides the context of the “research” upon which she reports.

Individuals with conservative ideologies are happier than liberal-leaners, and new research pinpoints the reason: Conservatives rationalize social and economic inequalities.

In other words, conservatives are happy because they ignore the “economic inequalities” of their fellow citizens and don’t worry themselves over other’s troubles. They just don’t care about other people. This is exactly what this “research” claims.

Let’s look at the key word they use as the fulcrum of their study. Here’s what “rationalize” means:

-to bring into accord with reason or cause something to seem reasonable: as

a: to substitute a natural for a supernatural explanation of

b: to attribute (one’s actions) to rational and creditable motives without analysis of true and especially unconscious motives ; broadly : to create an excuse or more attractive explanation for

-to provide plausible but untrue reasons for conduct

In other words to “rationalize” is to lie to oneself and everyone around you, to explain away reality with a false but reasonable seeming explanation.

This is what Bryner, Jost and Napier are positing that conservatives do: lie. And that lie makes them happy. Not a very noble action is it?

However, the very notion that conservatism is all based on a lie proves that “open minded” is not a phrase that one could possibly associate with the work of these people. They start out at the beginning with the premise that conservatives are bad people. All subsequent results are geared to prove that thesis.

Bryner goes on…

Regardless of marital status, income or church attendance, right-wing individuals reported greater life satisfaction and well-being than left-wingers, the new study found. Conservatives also scored highest on measures of rationalization, which gauge a person’s tendency to justify, or explain away, inequalities.

So, conservatives merely “explain away” the fact that some Americans are poor? They shrug their shoulders and just happily ride off into the sunset. Oh, mean, nasty old conservatives.

Even the questions of this study are skewed to get a predetermined result.

The rationalization measure included statements such as: “It is not really that big a problem if some people have more of a chance in life than others,” and “This country would be better off if we worried less about how equal people are.”

Of course, this very question is divorced from any REASONS that “some have more of a chance than others,” doesn’t it? It seems that the researchers simply take at face value that “inequalities” is simply an obvious evil, quite despite why these inequalities might or might not exist. This study completely discounts any explanations as but mere “rationalization” which completely reveals their own rationalization and makes the lie to any pretense to scientific research and places this thing itself squarely in the camp of pure justification.

Thomas Jefferson was one of the most widely recognized liberals of his day and one of his most formative concepts is that there is a “natural aristocracy among men,” by which he meant some people will simply be better at some things than others. Some may end up with more in life because of these natural abilities that others may lack. In fact, this reality undergirds our entire system of liberty by which we are all free to exploit our own abilities to succeed. But Jost and Napier obviously discount this philosophical idea as an evil from the outset.

More proof of their own bias is in the next paragraph of Bryner’s piece.

To justify economic inequalities, a person could support the idea of meritocracy, in which people supposedly move up their economic status in society based on hard work and good performance. In that way, one’s social class attainment, whether upper, middle or lower, would be perceived as totally fair and justified.

Notice the obvious assumption that people really don’t “move up” in economic status when she writes, “in which people supposedly move up…” What’s with the “supposedly”? If people really didn’t move up the economic ladder due to their hard work, then we’d all be making the same amount we made when we first joined the work force as teenagers or young adults! Obviously people DO move up the economic ladder and it can only be because of their personal efforts.

Next we get the words of the researchers further revealing their bias.

“Our research suggests that inequality takes a greater psychological toll on liberals than on conservatives,” the researchers write in the June issue of the journal Psychological Science, “apparently because liberals lack ideological rationalizations that would help them frame inequality in a positive (or at least neutral) light.”

Ah, we see. Those liberals are so loving and caring that they just can’t stand to see someone in need and it just tears them up inside. They can’t explain away those darn ol’ “inequalities” and frame them in a “positive” light as the uncaring conservatives are able to do.

So many things wrong with just one little paragraph.

First of all, conservatives don’t explain away inequalities and go off on their merry way unconcerned over the plight of their neighbors. Conservatives do feel there is no way around a certain amount of inequalities, but no conservative is “happy” because of inequality and they also have no particular interest in fostering it among others. Further, they do not see inequality in any “positive” light. Inequality lacks any moral value in this instance. It just is. It is also, on an individual basis, not a permanent state. Inequalities can be changed by individual effort as far as conservatives are concerned. This is where some level of satisfaction comes in for conservatives. The notion that it is within the power of the individual to change inequality brings a hope for the future that cannot help but cause a sunny outlook. And this is also a good reason why liberals are unhappy. After all, liberals wallow in a victim mentality, they assume everyone is against them and nothing can be done to address inequalities in life. How can such a dark view of the world not make them unhappy?

But, to explain why their central assumption that liberals care more and that they get more upset about inequalities is wrong headed thinking, one only needs to look at the statistics of charitable giving. Conservatives give far, far more to help people out than liberals. It begs the question that if liberals are so torn up inside about people doing badly, why then don’t they try to do anything about it by trying to help others like conservatives do? And if conservatives can so easily “explain away inequalities” why do they bother to give so much of their money and time to help others? If there are any lies being told, it seems that liberals are doing it more often than conservatives.

There are substantive reasons why conservatives believe as they do but this study relegates any reasons to automatic assumptions of evil and moves on from there. Unfortunately for any efforts at “science,” this particular study is so bound up in preconceived notions that any results are useless to any greater understanding of why conservatives are happier than liberals in the U.S.

But, since it makes liars and uncaring louts of conservatives everywhere, the MSM should love this badly skewed “research.” Thus far it has appeared on Fox News, Yahoonews and MSNBC as well as its original source, livescience.com, so we just might be seeing more of this report.


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1 posted on 05/08/2008 7:00:29 AM PDT by Ouderkirk
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To: Ouderkirk
Is it a bad thing for conservatives to take care of themselves, and leave others to take care of themselves?
2 posted on 05/08/2008 7:02:51 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: ZX12R

For that matter, how do you take care of others when you REFUSE to take care of yourself????


3 posted on 05/08/2008 7:13:44 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: ZX12R

4 posted on 05/08/2008 7:15:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: Ouderkirk

Not all, but many conservatives regularly attend church. Where, being conservatives, they probably make offerings or tithings with some regularity.

Those monies are often used in significant portion for mission work, outreach and other such christian aid.

So conservatives don’t care about the sufferings of others,eh?

On the contrary, instead of just “feeling” about the suffering of others, they take action and give not only their money but their time to actually bring relief to those people. These ministries often help suffering people be able to help themselves better as well.

Which is something liberals can neither claim nor actually understand.


5 posted on 05/08/2008 7:15:40 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I didn't leave the republicans, they left me.)
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To: ZX12R

Of course, it doesn’t mention that the libs could’ve cared less about the Afghanis and Iraqis living under dictatorships while we most certain DID.


6 posted on 05/08/2008 7:16:57 AM PDT by Right Cal Gal (Abraham Lincoln would have let Berkeley leave the Union without a fight)
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To: Ouderkirk

Why are conservatives so opaque to liberals. We understand them perfectly.


7 posted on 05/08/2008 7:19:56 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Ouderkirk
conservatives are happier and it is because they have theirs and they don’t care if everyone else is poor and downtrodden.

Conservatives are grateful for what they have and are content. Leftists are ungrateful for all they have and envy their neighbors. Leftists believe they cannot ever be fully happy until they knock the Joneses down to size.

Envy is very socially unacceptable so they wrap it in something that is socially acceptable: caring for the poor. Their real motive is pure evil: to take or destroy the objects of their envy.

8 posted on 05/08/2008 7:20:23 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: DManA

That is, conservatives understand liberals perfectly.


9 posted on 05/08/2008 7:20:40 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Ouderkirk
This is nothing more than Socialist gobbly gook. If it were not for the Conservatives (hardworking Americans) then there would not be any one to tax to take care of the other 93%.

They can kiss my Conservative grits. I donate to charities, have helped others (monetarily and given my time), and will continue to help others.

Oh, and on another note, when I've worked or volunteered with other groups, not one person(s) has admitted to being a Liberal in any of those groups or organizations. Thus, where are the liberals? No, don't answer that question. They're the ones standing there waiting for a hand out or the Elitist pushing legislation to continue making economic slaves out of the ones who can't or won't think for themselves. Silly me!

10 posted on 05/08/2008 7:21:50 AM PDT by Paige ("Facts are stubborn things." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: ZX12R

It’s not a bad thing that conservatives take care of themselves, it’s what you were eluding to. Libs want conservatives to take care of them too.


11 posted on 05/08/2008 7:22:38 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: ZX12R

Do Liberals care about others? It seems to me they are taking care of numero uno!


12 posted on 05/08/2008 7:23:53 AM PDT by proudtobeanamerican1 (Media -)
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To: Ouderkirk

Liberals are hippier.


13 posted on 05/08/2008 7:24:16 AM PDT by Walmartian
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To: prairiebreeze

Libs need slapped with some Sowell, some Thomas Sowell.

Inequalities of outcome exist because of inequalities of EFFORT.

The bottom 20% of the income strata have about 29% full time working employment record, whereas the top 20% have over 90%.

Could that be the reason? Am I “heartless” for pointing that out?

Should we reward non-work by “equalizing” outcomes between those who put forth effort and those who do not?


14 posted on 05/08/2008 7:24:29 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Ouderkirk
the reason conservatives are happier is because they just don’t care about other people

Oh conservatives care about other people. The reason we're happier is because we actually get off our butts and do something to help them rather than sitting back, whining and moaning and waiting for government to do it.

15 posted on 05/08/2008 7:25:16 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: Ouderkirk
But...but...but... Conservatives understand that if you give someone who leads a fouled up life the means to lead a better life, they will squander those means and go right back to leading the same fouled-up life.

As for the rest of being happier,

God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.

It is nice to not spend life pi$$ed off at the world for not being my idea of perfect.

16 posted on 05/08/2008 7:25:53 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: DManA

The argument I love out of libs is that their attitude is more “Christian” than conservatives’ attitude towards those in need.

Yeah, handwringing and using gov’t to force others to “take care of the needy” stores up your treasures in heaven.... NOT.

Want “society” to pay for everyone’s health care?
Show me the receipts that prove that you’ve done it first, if it’s such a good idea.


17 posted on 05/08/2008 7:27:18 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Paige

You’re right conservatives are much more charitable than liberals, and they do so voluntarily, they don’t need the government to force them to help their neighbors.

In the aftermath of the the Katrina disaster, I was posting on the Seattle Times web site about the hurricane. The libs were going nuts blaming Bush and whining. I told them that my husband was preparing to go to New Orleans to help out and asked them what they were doing to help ameliorate the situation. Democrats whine, conservatives act in a crisis.


18 posted on 05/08/2008 7:27:27 AM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- new euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Ouderkirk

Popdonnelly’s theory of conservative happiness: Conservatives are happier because they don’t take liberals and leftists seriously.

E.g., how could you believe Al Gore and Reverend Wright and be happy?


19 posted on 05/08/2008 7:27:37 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Concerned about the price of arugula)
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To: Ouderkirk

Liberals confuse time spent sitting at Starbucks with caring about the poor and the environment.


20 posted on 05/08/2008 7:29:34 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Bible toting, bitter and armed with slashing sarcasm.)
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To: Ouderkirk
...why religious extremism is connected to conservatives.

And worshiping the Earth isn't a religion? Psh.

How do you tell the difference between a liberal and a conservative? The conservative will have no issues taking money out of his own wallet to leave a 10-15 percent tip for good service. The liberal, on the other hand, will take money out of the conservative's wallet, keep half of it, and then leave a 5 percent tip, all the while complaining that the conservative is stupid for leaving a tip.

21 posted on 05/08/2008 7:30:01 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Republican...because not everyone can be on welfare.)
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To: prairiebreeze

“On the contrary, instead of just “feeling” about the suffering of others, they take action and give not only their money but their time to actually bring relief to those people. These ministries often help suffering people be able to help themselves better as well.”

You hit the nail on the head. A conservative takes care of his or her family first, does what he or she can to help others and then realizes that is all they can do.

A liberal wallows in worry and is miserable over things that he or she can’t change.


22 posted on 05/08/2008 7:30:33 AM PDT by brownsfan (Algore makes P.T. Barnum look like a piker.)
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To: proudtobeanamerican1
Do Liberals care about others?

Yes, but just those who have money to pay for other people's stuff.

It seems to me they are taking care of numero uno!

Indeed. Buying votes with your money.
23 posted on 05/08/2008 7:31:21 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Ouderkirk

#1 reason conservatives are happier than liberals is...
Personal responsiblity.
You are responsible for your own ‘happiness’ (and most importantly, you are able to determine what makes you happy)
Conservatives have been taught to help those in need, to show them the path to prosperity, but you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink.
Liberals teach others that they are miserable because they can’t be happy until liberals tell them they are.
Success is a habit.
I know if I give a conservative assistance, they will correct the situation and then ‘pass it on’.
If I give a liberal assistance, they will just be back for more and there will be no improvement.
‘Teach a man to fish....
It’s the love of independence and liberty vs the entitlement mindset.


24 posted on 05/08/2008 7:32:29 AM PDT by griswold3 (Al queda is guilty of hirabah (war against society) Penalty is death.)
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To: brownsfan

You’ve got that right.

I’ve had libs actually get angry when I give them “the rules”:

Your first responsibility is to ensure that YOU are not an involuntary burden on others.
After that is achieved, you can think about having a family, if you can ensure that your family will not be an involuntary burden on others.
At that point, you are personally obligated to do what you can to help others in need.

If everyone followed these rules, there’d be a lot less “needy” in the first place.


25 posted on 05/08/2008 7:33:21 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Ouderkirk

Liberals are dangerous to the continued existance of our great country..


26 posted on 05/08/2008 7:34:19 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: DManA

Why are conservatives so opaque to liberals. We understand them perfectly.
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LOL. The FR version of liberals is [donning asbestos suit] as cartoonish as DU’s version of conservatives. Both sides are equally guilty of painting the vast middle with the tiny extremes.

It’s what makes it fun.


27 posted on 05/08/2008 7:34:39 AM PDT by dmz
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To: MrB
The argument I love out of libs is that their attitude is more “Christian” than conservatives’ attitude towards those in need.

I am honestly perplexed that my liberal Christian brothers and sisters think that God wants us to deal with the poor by outsourcing our Christian charity to the government which is by definition and by law godless.

28 posted on 05/08/2008 7:35:28 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Ouderkirk
We may see more of it over the next several days because, while it is titled “Conservatives Happier Than Liberals,” it is basically saying that the reason conservatives are happier is because they just don’t care about other people.

I don't care to make them do what I want.
I don't agonize with guilt because they are lazy or unlucky.
I don't seek out their approval or cry when they disapprove.

But I certainly don't hate them.

29 posted on 05/08/2008 7:37:15 AM PDT by SampleMan (We are a free and industrious people, socialist nannies do not become us.)
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To: Reeses
" Leftists are ungrateful for all they have and envy their neighbors. Leftists believe they cannot ever be fully happy until they knock the Joneses down to size. Envy is very socially unacceptable so they wrap it in something that is socially acceptable: caring for the poor. Their real motive is pure evil: to take or destroy the objects of their envy. "

A great portion of the atrocities committed in history have been by people who seek some version of utopia. Every time you hear someone who seeks power promising to use government to make it all better for everyone, BEWARE!

30 posted on 05/08/2008 7:37:33 AM PDT by yooling ( "Ah, beer. The cause of and the solution to all of life's problems." H. Simpson)
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To: Ouderkirk
Yawn, this thread is pathetic.

Instead of reacting and defending ourselves, we should be attacking and destroying the “Universities” and “researchers” that promote this bilge.

Who is paying these guys? And why?

31 posted on 05/08/2008 7:37:56 AM PDT by roses of sharon ( (Who will be McCain's maverick?))
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To: Ouderkirk
conservatives merely “explain away” the fact that some Americans are poor

This simple "explained away" reason is not something liberals are able to grasp because liberals lack the capability to process reality. My theory for why liberals can’t process reality is because of a missing gene but that is a discussion for another time.

For all liberals who wish to strain the limits of their comprehension here is the reason that “explains it away”. The rich are rich and the poor are poor because of the same reason. They both keep doing the things that make them what they are.

32 posted on 05/08/2008 7:40:30 AM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, Trust few, and always paddle your own canoe)
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To: SampleMan

Leftists in general think they know better than everyone else about how they should live their lives or spend their wealth, or about their personal decisions.

True, a given lib may have more general knowledge than any given poor person,
but they damn well do not have more knowledge than all the poor people collectively do nor do they have the specific knowledge of each person’s situation to make decisions on their behalf.


33 posted on 05/08/2008 7:40:34 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Ouderkirk
I voted for Alan Keyes in the primaries. He was the only one on the Republican Presidential Ballot that I even come close to agreeing with on anything.

When I expressed this to some of my co-workers....my DEMOCRAT, liberal-leaning co-workers....they all expressed amazement that I, as a Republican, would vote for a Black Man.

I just let it go...not worth arguing with fools. BUT - I haven't decided yet if their holding views like that is 1) Sheer Stupidity on their part. 2) Sheer ignorance on their part. 3) Sheer bigotry on their part. or D) All of the the above. Might be D), as far as I'm concerned.

34 posted on 05/08/2008 7:40:39 AM PDT by wbill
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
Liberals confuse time spent sitting at Starbucks with caring about the poor and the environment.

Great statement. That's tagline material!

35 posted on 05/08/2008 7:42:44 AM PDT by marinamuffy (I really dislike McCain but I'll crawl over broken glass to vote against Hillary or the Obamanation.)
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To: MrB
Oh, my poor conservative brethren and sistern, you are all rationalizing again. Read Saul Alinsky and all will be clear.

Even as we fulminate on our excess and ill gotten gains, Bill Moyers is explaining in the MSM how we have constructed an improper reality; that, only by having the saintly liberals reconstruct a proper reality will we all be happy without hate (or religion, or a constitution, or capitalism, etc.)

Remember, you fantasy weaving conservatives, religious extremism is connected to conservatives, and the sooner we become atheists, the better we all will be.

36 posted on 05/08/2008 7:44:35 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent..)
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To: yooling
Cain was the very first leftist and committed the very first atrocity, against Able. He was motivated by envy. Leftists instigate wars, conservatives prepare for them and finish them. The 9/11 attack was about envy and resentment against America. Hitler resented and envied the Jews and his neighbor's land.

Leftists have killed more people and destroyed more wealth during the last 100 years than in any time in history. They are not slowing down.

37 posted on 05/08/2008 7:44:47 AM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: Ouderkirk

I can foresee a day when there will be re-education camps in this country - and they will be full of white, Christian, conservatives.


38 posted on 05/08/2008 7:45:15 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: wbill

I’d gladly vote for a black person, but not THAT black person.
I’d gladly vote for a woman, too, but not THAT woman.

My favorite recent conversation with a Democrat went something like this:
Her: “I’m supporting Hillary”
I: “Our family is on the ‘giving’ end of socialism, so we will not support her or Obama”
Her: “Oh, I don’t like socialism either.”

What do you say after that?


39 posted on 05/08/2008 7:45:54 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Ouderkirk
New Study: Conservatives are Happier Because They Hate Everyone

The whole world is festering with unhappy souls.
The French hate the Germans, the Gemans hate the Poles.
Italians hate Yugoslavs, South Africans hate the Dutch.
And I don't like anybody very much. -- Kingston Trio, Merry Little Minuet

40 posted on 05/08/2008 7:46:19 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: DManA
Why are conservatives so opaque to liberals. We understand them perfectly.

Well, to be fair, it's easier on us. With them, there's a lot less TO understand.

41 posted on 05/08/2008 7:46:44 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Typical white person)
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To: dmz

Actually, you may notice I directly contradicted myself in post 28.


42 posted on 05/08/2008 7:47:03 AM PDT by DManA
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To: ZX12R
Is it a bad thing for conservatives to take care of themselves, and leave others to take care of themselves

Not at all: it's the appropriate apportionment of responsibility.

The way liberals see it,though, is that other people's lives are thier responsibility, is psychological codependency. They are the dysfunctional ones.

43 posted on 05/08/2008 7:49:24 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: Smokin' Joe

Conservatives believe in FREEDOM.

With freedom comes responsibilities and consequences.

Conservatives understand that one is free to make good or bad life choices. That with bad choices come the negative consequences.

Liberals believe that all choices are equivalent and should yield positive outcomes.

Their unhappiness grows out of their inability to reconcile negative consequences from bad choices, since all choices should yield a positive outcome.


44 posted on 05/08/2008 7:52:34 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (Hillary = Senator Incitatus, Clintigula's whore...er, horse.)
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To: Ouderkirk

My B.S. detector just went off the charts.


45 posted on 05/08/2008 7:52:41 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Red Boots
The way liberals see it,though, is that other people's lives are thier responsibility, is psychological codependency. They are the dysfunctional ones.

Then they should be appropriately diagnosed and treated by reading Ayn Rand books, ans Reagan speeches.
46 posted on 05/08/2008 7:53:16 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: MrB
What do you say after that?

Yup.

As a general rule, I've stopped arguing with Liberals. Their willful ignorance of the way things work just makes my head hurt. I had a Lib recently tell me...in all seriousness...that the cold winter we had was a result of global warming. I played dumb and said "So, if things get warmer, it's Global Warming, and if they get colder, it's Global Warming?"

Her answer? "Yes. You're not one of those crazy Global Warming Deniers, are you?" No thought, no nothing. Just parroting the party lie.

How do you argue with people who are unwilling or unable to think for themselves?

47 posted on 05/08/2008 7:54:08 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill

They make many wrong assumptions about conservatives:
That we’re all greedy (rich)
That we all hate gays
That we all hate minorities
That WE are the elites (they can’t possibly be because they don’t come from money)


48 posted on 05/08/2008 7:54:57 AM PDT by threeleftsmakearight
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To: MrB

“party lie” = “party line”. But I think I might like my first Freudian Slip, better.


49 posted on 05/08/2008 7:55:01 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill
As a general rule, I've stopped arguing with Liberals. Their willful ignorance of the way things work just makes my head hurt.

So have I. "Willful ignorance" is right -- they confuse facts with wishful thinking.

A couple of months or so ago, the adult (at least chronologically) daughter of one of my fellow synagogue members started screeching at me when I mentioned (in an otherwise polite group discussion about politics) that Clinton is the candidate for POTUS that I like the least. This woman who never met me before literally got in my face and demanded to know if I "have something against strong women." You don't want to know how she reacted when I calmly and factually pointed out why I don't think Clinton is a strong woman at all.

50 posted on 05/08/2008 8:00:28 AM PDT by NYC GOP Chick (www.hillary-watch.org)
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