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Just Say Nothing
davekopel.org ^ | 1998 | Dave Kopel

Posted on 05/11/2008 9:16:18 AM PDT by B4Ranch

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To: Gilbo_3; hiredhand

Dead on proper Sir !

Modern forensics’s will tell the “CSI” version so all lies, BS or early or later versions will be secondary. So as most here have wisely stated , name rank and serial number and I want a lawyer even if your application of deadly force too stop the threat was 100% justified by law.

...... Ever see the experiment in a LEO academy or criminal justice class where instructor is speaking and 3 men run into the room knocking over tables and they grab instructors personal property and run out ?

30 students / recruits will get ya 30 different eye witness accounts of which maybe 3 will be “almost” correct.

Best advice we see here is shut up !

Stay safe !


81 posted on 05/12/2008 7:27:37 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: basil; dbwz

Ping


82 posted on 05/12/2008 7:57:45 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: scan59

Ping for future reference. (And to show my teenaged daughter.)


83 posted on 05/12/2008 8:09:53 AM PDT by scan59 (Markets regulate better than government can.)
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To: cryptical
Remember to keep the 911 short and to the point. "I need cops and an ambulance" and give the address, then hang up. Remember, they have a probably have a script to get information and they're recording. It's the same thing as talking to a cop, IANAL but I'm guessing anything you say on a 911 call is admissible in court.

Excellent advice. I hadn't considered that the 911 recording could be used against you.

84 posted on 05/12/2008 8:18:19 AM PDT by scan59 (Markets regulate better than government can.)
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To: Manly Warrior
The other question you present-SHOULD you render aid to a scumbag whom you just had cause to shoot; well, do not try to say that to a jury.....

In many cases, I would think it should suffice to say that one believed the person might pose a threat. Perhaps the 'attacker pretends to be bleeding to death so as to ambush the intended victim' thing happens more often in movies than real life, but unless one has assistance to secure the scene one could very reasonably argue that getting close enough to render first aid would be dangerous.

85 posted on 05/12/2008 9:28:24 PM PDT by supercat
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To: mad_as_he$$; MaxMax; B4Ranch; Maceman
BoingBoing has a post today on pretty much the same topic:
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/05/12/howto-handle-a-polic.html

Somebody should enlighten The BBers as to the other special facet of "white privilege", by giving the cop your CHL along with your license, you improve your chances of being let off with a warning.

86 posted on 05/12/2008 11:39:19 PM PDT by Nonesuch (Funny how my white privilege has locked me out of dozens of college scholarships and jobs)
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To: supercat

Your point is well taken.

However, having the means and intent to render aid is my point. It will add mileage to the idea that you only wanted to stop the perp.

I would practice this procedure as well as anything else-that way when/if such a thing happens, you will do what you practiced; rational thought WILL escape you for a while.

Dropping even a unopened dressing would be evidence found, that could not disregarded and would indicate more than simple words.

Your attorney will prompt you for all kinds of things, everything you can provide will help the PA decide whether you were justified or not-the sole test of the case.

God Bless

Molon Labe


87 posted on 05/13/2008 5:03:09 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret) NRA Firearms Instructor "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: B4Ranch

Bump! ;-)


88 posted on 05/13/2008 1:31:14 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here. ;-)
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