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"MACK DADDY" GUTTER LANGUAGE FOR LIBERAL POLITICS
Free Republic ^ | May 12, 2008 | OKIEDOC

Posted on 05/12/2008 12:49:46 AM PDT by OKIEDOC

FReepers, what do you think about requesting Cal Thomas or someone like him to address the "Gutter Language" now infesting much of our political discourse?

We, meaning others and myself have grudgingly been forced to know about vulgar meanings of words that before now had no use in our everyday conversations.

Last week my nine-year-old third grade daughter came home and asked me what Mack Daddy meant.

I asked her where she heard the word and she stated that "the other night on television news a man called someone a Mack Daddy".

I told her the man was probably talking about a dad who eats Big Mac's with his children.

A few weeks ago, Sean Hannity of Fox News had on a black preacher who used the words "Mack Daddy" in one of his sermons.

Curious as to what a Mack Daddy might be I went on the internet and found a black slang dictionary.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/browse.php?character=M&page=9

Here are a couple of descriptions for the slang term "Mack Daddy'";

("Mac Daddy" or Mack Daddy, is a term used to describe a man with an unusual power over women, and is derived from the French and later Louisiana Creole patois term "maqereau", which means "pimp". Adding "daddy" makes it mean "top pimp". The '70's black-exploitation movie "The Mack", a dramatization of the life of a street pimp, furthered the popularity of the term in urban America.)

And

(Can be defined as the father/god/master of owning b*tches. A Mac daddy is such a person as using woman as his slaves. He uses money drugs and fear to control his b*tches. And uses charm,wit and a large amount of cash to keep his hoes hooked to his muthaf*cking nature.)

As you can see, neither description is a respectful explanation for another human being much less one for a former president or presidential candidate wannabe.

I do not want my eight and nine-year-old children learning about such things as "Mack Daddies" until they are old enough to understand that those of a lower socioeconomic standing in our society speak such language out of ignorance or arrogance.

Yet the far left press and many such race baiting and enabling elitists commentators found on MSNBC, CNN, PBS and other liberal bastions see the use of slang language as further breaking down the barriers' between the races.

Mack Daddy's seems to be the language of use by the current elitist's liberal political campaign and is slowly dragging American society down without an utterance of opposition from conservatives.

Personally, I do not want to learn Black Slang so that I can communicate during the forth-coming political campaign, nor God forbid the possibility of four dangerously long years.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: blackslang; ebonics; ghetto; ghettotrash; mackdaddy; obama; supwitchew
I speak Okie English and prefer not to learn the language of Obama, Al Sharpton and the Reverend Wright.
1 posted on 05/12/2008 12:49:47 AM PDT by OKIEDOC
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To: OKIEDOC
Last week my nine-year-old third grade daughter came home and asked me what Mack Daddy meant.

I asked her where she heard the word and she stated that "the other night on television news a man called someone a Mack Daddy".

Every fiber of my being calls out that this is phony, but hey, what do the fibers of my being know?

2 posted on 05/12/2008 12:58:01 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: OKIEDOC

Well, you know the original meanings of rock ‘n roll, jazz, jukebox, etc.

American language is fluid — always changing.


3 posted on 05/12/2008 12:59:32 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: OKIEDOC

“I do not want my eight and nine-year-old children learning about such things as “Mack Daddies” until they are old enough to understand that those of a lower socioeconomic standing in our society speak such language out of ignorance”

Why should they EVER have to understand it?? It’s not worthy of them. There is no redeeming or uplifting reason to have to learn, much less adopt, such terminology or ideology. This is beyond the “dumbing down” of our society and country, it’s the decaying of it.


4 posted on 05/12/2008 1:12:14 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: dr_lew
Every fiber of my being calls out that this is phony, but hey, what do the fibers of my being know?

Comment:

Please by all means, eat your fiber so your bowels will move more smoothly.

You have a right to think what ever you want.

You can intimate that I have lied if it suits your purposes.

Some people do not see the necessity of using or enhancing black slang in a united America.

I was aware when posting this piece that politically correct thinking suck-ups to the far left extreme race baiter's and enablers of America would fall all over themselves trying to flame any part of what was written.

5 posted on 05/12/2008 1:26:32 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: dr_lew

It was Rev. Manning, of the Atlah church in Harlem. He is very anti-Obama, and I did see him on Hannity & Colmes a few weeks ago. Here’s the “mack daddy” reference:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=khuu-RhOBDU

(Careful - language is offensive).


6 posted on 05/12/2008 1:28:10 AM PDT by Joann37
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To: OKIEDOC
I speak Okie English and prefer not to learn the language of Obama, Al Sharpton and the Reverend Wright.

Or those f#@$@ing sons of #@$#@ at Kos and DU.

(Oops, I think I just contributed to the problem.)

7 posted on 05/12/2008 1:32:44 AM PDT by GOP_Raider (Maybe next year...I guess...Let's Go Sharks!)
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To: GOP_Raider
Yep, your a very bad boy, verrrry bad. LOL

I had forgotten about the fruitcakes over at DU and Kos.

8 posted on 05/12/2008 1:40:09 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: durasell
Well, you know the original meanings of rock ‘n roll, jazz, jukebox, etc.

American language is fluid — always changing.

Courtesy Comment:

Well actually I did not know the real meanings or where they originated for sure but looked them up.

I knew that they originated out of the black community.

Not all black slang of yesterday had the same inference to the depravity as used by todays black slang.

However, I do remember my principal in grade school telling us that rock and roll would be the down fall of America.

The jury's still out but since those days in America we have morally sunk to new lows with 43 million aborted/murdered on demand.

From Wikipedia;
The term “juke box” came into use in the United States in the 1930s, derived either from African-American slang “jook” meaning “dance” or from a name given to it by critics who said it would encourage criminal behavior, this came from the fake family name Juke.

Jazz
Jazz is an American musical art form which originated around the beginning of the 20th century in African American communities in the Southern United States from a confluence of African and European music traditions. The style's West African pedigree is evident in its use of blue notes, call-and-response, improvisation, polyrhythms, syncopation, and the swung note of ragtime.[1]

From its early development until the present, jazz has also incorporated music from 19th and 20th century American popular music, which is based on European music traditions.[2] The word jazz began as a West Coast slang term of uncertain derivation and was first used to refer to music in Chicago in about 1915; for the origin and history, see Jazz (word).

Rock and Roll
The immediate origins of rock and roll lie in the late 1940s and early 1950s through a mixing together of various popular musical genres of the time. These included gospel, folk music, and the blues - particularly the electric forms being developed in Memphis, Chicago, New Orleans, Texas, California, and elsewhere - piano-based boogie woogie, and jump blues, which were collectively becoming known as rhythm and blues. Also in the melting pot creating a new musical form were country and western music (including Western swing and influences from traditional Appalachian folk music), jazz, and gospel music.

9 posted on 05/12/2008 2:18:49 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: OKIEDOC
I was aware when posting this piece that politically correct thinking suck-ups to the far left extreme race baiter's and enablers of America would fall all over themselves trying to flame any part of what was written.

Yoweee! I love it!

10 posted on 05/12/2008 2:23:26 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: OKIEDOC

Well, I wasn’t thinking that you LIED, exactly. Just that maybe you massaged events a little bit. People have different standards, you know?

My specific problem is with your account that your daughter raised this question so long after the fact. In my own experience, both as a child, and as a parent, such questions would arise “on the spot”, but never after the fact. Hence, with the fibers.

And, I might add, that these sorts of anecdotal formulas are notoriously unreliable - they’re a “red flag”. I mean, Hillary Clinton isn’t the only one, you know?

None of this has anything to do with politically correct thinking suck-ups or far left extreme race baiters, as far as I can tell.


11 posted on 05/12/2008 2:27:27 AM PDT by dr_lew
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To: OKIEDOC
However, I do remember my principal in grade school telling us that rock and roll would be the down fall of America.

The amplified electric guitar (developed by Les Paul, whose music I loved) turned every lamebrained pothead into a "musician" who didn't know music. Rock and roll was the end of the American Songbook and the end of the beauty of melody and harmony that enriched our lives. "Sex, Drugs and Rock and Roll" should be on our country's epitaph, if it is ever written.

12 posted on 05/12/2008 2:42:40 AM PDT by Misterioso
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To: dr_lew
dr_lew wrote:
Well, I wasn’t thinking that you LIED, exactly. Just that maybe you massaged events a little bit. People have different standards, you know?

My specific problem is with your account that your daughter raised this question so long after the fact. In my own experience, both as a child, and as a parent, such questions would arise “on the spot”, but never after the fact. Hence, with the fibers.

And, I might add, that these sorts of anecdotal formulas are notoriously unreliable - they’re a “red flag”. I mean, Hillary Clinton isn’t the only one, you know?

None of this has anything to do with politically correct thinking suck-ups or far left extreme race baiters, as far as I can tell.

Courtesy Comment:

I can assure you that she did ask and there was some prior discussion in her class about the use of black slang.

Our town is is predominantly Hispanic with lots of illegals and the school ratio is 88 percent Hispanic, 8 percent white and 2 percent black students.

By the way my daughter is extremely intelligent and I hope she grows up to be a physician like her mother.

13 posted on 05/12/2008 2:57:49 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Misterioso
It seemed like that my folks watched the Les Paul show on our old black and white Capehart TV while living down on the farm.

That had to be back in the middle 1950’s.

14 posted on 05/12/2008 3:00:42 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: OKIEDOC

I believe what you say here, whether others do or not. The bastardization of the English languaage is depressing to me. And it makes me mad. Words mean things. We do not need to define new terms just because a certain class of people do not want to go along with the mainstream. If they dislike it so much here, then there are many more countries around the world to which they can move. The media once again force this stuff on us.


15 posted on 05/12/2008 4:35:39 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: caver

caver wrote:
I believe what you say here, whether others do or not. The bastardization of the English languaage is depressing to me. And it makes me mad. Words mean things. We do not need to define new terms just because a certain class of people do not want to go along with the mainstream. If they dislike it so much here, then there are many more countries around the world to which they can move. The media once again force this stuff on us.

Courtesy Reply:

Thank you for your kind response.


16 posted on 05/12/2008 5:04:20 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: llandres
Sheesh, six and seven year old kids were already SINGING about "MacDaddy" and such ghetto garbage 10 years ago or more, and raking in millions as national USA chart hip-hop stars.

Kriss Kross

It's already gone waaaay past the eight year old kids of America, sorry to say.

17 posted on 05/12/2008 5:24:35 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Your Free To Vote 4 McCain. I Won't. I Don't Want To Hear Your Gripes Thru His 4 Years of RINO-ism!)
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To: OKIEDOC

The adoption of getto slang has been going on for quite a while, but like everything else it seems, there is an ongoing coarsening of language (and behavior) at every level.

I’m not sure what can be done about it on a societal level, but as you are aware, you need to be a more positive influence in your daughter’s life than popular “culture” is a negative.


18 posted on 05/12/2008 5:38:36 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Play that Funky Music Typical White Boy!)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

“Sheesh, six and seven year old kids were already SINGING about “MacDaddy” and such ghetto garbage 10 years ago or more, and raking in millions as national USA chart hip-hop stars.”

Hey, I’ve known the term for over 25 years. Like styrofoam in a landfill, guess some garbage just won’t go away.


19 posted on 05/12/2008 7:00:13 AM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: OKIEDOC

Both “jazz” and “rock and roll” are sexual in origin. So much of American pop culture, including slang, comes from criminal enterprises. That would include carney slang that has made its way into popular language as well as NASCAR.

For a real shocker check out some cockney rhyming slang. It’s positively filthy.


20 posted on 05/12/2008 7:25:55 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
For a real shocker check out some cockney rhyming slang. It’s positively filthy.

Courtesy Reply:

LOL

No thanks I can hardly handle the crap that is throw ed out in the movies I watch on Lifetime channel.

Why is it Hollyweird feels like they need to show the sex to get their point across.

Years ago just sleeping in the same bedroom told people that the couple might be doing the dirty.

21 posted on 05/12/2008 7:37:55 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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Why is it Hollyweird feels like they need to show the sex to get their point across.


Because:

A)Most Hollywood writers/directors don’t know how to handle sex in a story.

B)Many men will sit through the most hideous crap if they believe there’s a chance the lead actress will take her shirt off.


22 posted on 05/12/2008 10:01:21 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: OKIEDOC

All cultures are equal! Kids must be taught not to judge.

If you try to teach your kids otherwise, you will be arrested for a hate crime.

It will go easier for you if you report to your reeducation camp immediately.


23 posted on 05/12/2008 10:37:11 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: “American schools” and “Sodom and Gomorrha”)
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To: OKIEDOC

I also heard some political commentator use “Mack Daddy” the other day. I had no idea that’s what it meant.


24 posted on 05/12/2008 10:39:45 AM PDT by donna (Synonyms: “American schools” and “Sodom and Gomorrha”)
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To: OKIEDOC

Oh, I think I just came up w/ a new tagline...:)


25 posted on 05/12/2008 3:33:32 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (DU: Standing athwart history yelling "$#@$# you mother$#@$#er!")
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To: OKIEDOC
I can assure you that she did ask and there was some prior discussion in her class about the use of black slang.

I accept your assurance, and my apologies for being so suspicious.

26 posted on 05/12/2008 6:28:50 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: OKIEDOC; durasell

There’s actually much less sexual content in films now than there was in the 1970s.


27 posted on 05/26/2008 12:58:26 PM PDT by Borges
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You may be right about the 70’s as I do not watch many movies in todays theaters where suckers have to pay $10.00 for a seat, $25.00 for a bucket of popcorn, $12.50 for a coke and $6.00 for a candy bar while listening to conversations right when the part gets good.

I do however watch TCM, AMC and sometimes On Demand.

Over at the neighbors for a visit and their daughter Tina aged 13 was watching a movie on TV with that Hollywood shoplifting thief Winona Ryder playing a mentally ill patient.

Every other word was fluck this or fluck that.

Finally my neighbor saw that my wife was uncomfortable hearing the filthy language and made the child go to her room to finish watching the movie.

I would have preferred that the daughter turn off the movie and watch something more age appropriate.

These same neighbors are discussing buying her birth control pills because they think she is having sex after finding a condom in her pants pocket.

28 posted on 05/26/2008 2:30:32 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: Borges

There’s actually much less sexual content in films now than there was in the 1970s.


Undisciplined movie making in the 1970s, survey-driven movie making in he 2000s.


29 posted on 05/27/2008 8:26:04 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: OKIEDOC
I came from a culture where most of the males used filthy language. As a female, I felt cheapened by it.

That was one of the things that I admired about American men. The ones that I met were complete gentlemen and wouldn't dream of using gutter language. That was 50 years ago, and have times ever changed!

One of the current terms that is gaining in popularity is 'Pi$$ed off'. I heard a Senator use it the other day and I was appalled.

It really is the dumbing down of America!

30 posted on 07/04/2009 6:24:50 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (TOTUS = PONZI)
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To: mckenzie7
Oh yes, and I just looked up to find out what a ‘mack daddy’ was.
31 posted on 07/04/2009 6:26:28 PM PDT by mckenzie7 (TOTUS = PONZI)
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To: OKIEDOC

Even your grandmother today will say “That really sucks.” This expression came from, in the 1970s, the insult “You* suck [rooster]!” (*Often used in the third person, referencing someone’s maternal parent.)


32 posted on 07/04/2009 6:30:53 PM PDT by Yaelle
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