Skip to comments.Lord of the Rings Question - Need Help, Please!
Posted on 05/19/2008 8:53:05 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
I have a question on a particular passage in Lord of the Rings and I need to find it. Can someone help?
Any guidance would be appreciated.
I think it’s at the end of The Two Towers
Two Towers, while being led by Gollum to Shelob’s lair, I believe it’s after they’ve been through Ithilien.
From the book or the movie?
Back in Osgiliath Frodo hears the calling of the Ring. He walks out from where they are hidden
SAM: What are you doing?
A Nazgul flies over Osgiliath.
SAM: Where are you going?
Frodo stands on top of a wall. As he stand there a Nazgul flies up in front of him. Frodo holds out the Ring to it. Faramir looks up to see the Nazgul close to Frodo. Frodo closes his eyes and starts to put the Ring on. Sam rushes up the steps to him. As the beast reaches out to grab Frodo, Sam grabs him from behind and Faramir fires an arrow into the beast, who flies back screeching. Sam and Frodo tumble down the stairs holding onto each other. They collapse in a heap at the bottom. Frodo rolls Sam underneath him and quickly withdraws Sting, holding it at Sam’s throat.
SAM: It’s me. It’s your Sam. Don’t you know your Sam?
With gradual realisation Frodo sits back dropping Sting on the floor. He slumps back against a wall as Sam sits up
FRODO: I can’t do this, Sam.
SAM: (getting to his feet) I know. It’s all wrong. (he leans against a wall looking out at Osgiliath) By rights, we shouldn’t even be here. But we are. It’s like in the great stories, Mr. Frodo. The ones that really mattered. (he watches a Nazgul fly away) Full of darkness and danger they were. And sometimes you didn’t want to know the end.....because how could the end be happy? How could the world go back
to the way it was...... when so much bad had happened?
Frodo sits panting, tears in his eyes. In Helms Deep the Uurk-hai are running away. Theoden raises his sword in joy.
THEODEN: Victory! We have victory!
SAM VOICEOVER: But in the end, it’s only a passing thing...... this shadow. Even darkness must pass. A new day will come. And when the sun shines, it will shine out the clearer. Those were the stories
that stayed with you......that meant something. Even if you were too small to understand why. But I think, Mr. Frodo, I do understand. I know now.
Gandalf kills another Uruk-hai and smiles. Aragorn pauses and smiles. The flood water continues to flow into the Isengard dungeons and Merry and Pippin look relieved. Saruman backs back into his tower
SAM: Folk in those stories......had lots of chances of turning back, only they didn’t. They kept going......because they were holding on to something.
FRODO: What are we holding on to, Sam?
Sam turns to look at Frodo. Gollum looks on sadly. Sam lifts Frodo to his feet
SAM: That there’s some good in this world, Mr. Frodo. And it’s worth fighting for.
Frodo stares at Sam. Gollum looks solemn and drops his eyes. Faramir appears, walks up to them, and kneels down beside Frodo. Madril and the other soliders appear behind Sam and Frodo
FARAMIR: I think at last we understand one another, Frodo Baggins. (he stands up)
MADRIL: You know the laws of our country, the laws of your father. If you let them go, your life will be forfeit.
Frodo and Sam look worried. Faramir pauses
FARAMIR: Then it is forfeit. Release them.
Frodo looks relieved and Sam brushes a soldier’s hand from his shoulder
That is clearly the movie script. I have doubts that it is in the novel, but am not sure.
You guys are awesome. I found it in like 30 seconds after your posts.
I’m thinking it may be this one:
I wonder if well ever be put into songs or tales.
I wonder if people will ever say, lets hear about Frodo and the Ring.
And theyll say, yes, thats one of my favorite stories. Frodo was really courageous, wasnt he, dad.
Yes, my boy, the most famousest of hobbits. And thats saying a lot.
You left out one of the chief characters. ‘Samwise the Brave. I want to hear more about Sam. Frodo wouldnt have got far without Sam.
Now Mr. Frodo, you shouldnt make fun. I was being serious.
So was I.
Samwise the Brave.
I wanted to find it in the book, but I recall this scene from the movie as well as from a BCC radio dramatization. It is really quite moving in each of these genres.
(Which is another reason why LOTR is the masterpiece that it is....)
yes, that is the movie version...thank you. I love it. I love the book passage, also. It’s on page 697 in my Two Towers, near the end of the Stairs of Cirith Ungol.
In the book it’s a conversation on the stairs of Cirith Ungol. In the book, Frodo is a strong character. In the movie, he is weak. It’s a light hearted section that Jackson turned maudlin. He did the same to the scene where Sam walks into the lake.
Faramir was mischaracterized as well. Also, Pippin and Merry were made out to be clowns in the movie.
The good FReepers at the Hobbit Hole can probably give you the answer.
Jackson changed many characters in a way I found hard to swallow (His Gandalf the White made no sense), on the other hand I thought his Boromir was actually better than the book. The trilogy was certainly a great movie accomplishment. I hope he has respect for the source material when he does The Hobbit.
“The Journey to the Crossroads” or “Of Stewed Rabbit”, are the chapters where I think it might be, in “The Two Towers”, if my sometimes faulty memory is correct...
Not in that manner. IIRC, the ring (thus Frodo and Sam) do not go to Osgiliath in the books.
“Once more unto the breach, men, once more!....for England, for Harry and for ST. GEORGE!!!!”
I love this stuff. I get choked up for anything along those lines!
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