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What are these weird things that I found under the dirt in my yard?

Posted on 05/29/2008 9:31:26 PM PDT by wideminded



TOPICS: Agriculture; Gardening; Outdoors; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bigdingleberries; callingartbell
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I found these while digging in my backyard, several inches down. They are about 3/4 inches long and seem to have a hard outer shell. I assume this is some sort of transitional insect stage. I thought I noticed the tail of one moving slightly when I touched it but they seem to be in a suspended animation state.

Thanks in advance for any identification info.

1 posted on 05/29/2008 9:31:26 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

Sorry. I forgot to add “(Vanity)” to the title.


2 posted on 05/29/2008 9:34:03 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded

This might sound amazing but I’ve found similar objects in my cat’s litter box!


3 posted on 05/29/2008 9:35:52 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: wideminded

Looks like pupas.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pupa


4 posted on 05/29/2008 9:36:40 PM PDT by camerakid400
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To: wideminded

Those are moth cocoons


5 posted on 05/29/2008 9:36:55 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great...(until it happens to YOU).)
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To: wideminded

You found two elements of Obama’s ideology. Currently in deep hibernation, upon his election they will blossom into huge radical-left moths.


6 posted on 05/29/2008 9:37:03 PM PDT by happyathome
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To: wideminded

I think what you have is a chrysalis of a tomato worm. Check out this link.

http://www.whatsthatbug.com/tomato.html


7 posted on 05/29/2008 9:37:14 PM PDT by Gummi Bear
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To: wideminded
Pupae of some insect, a beetle, I'd imagine. I've seen them before, too, but never saw what they hatched. But it's a pupa of some kind.

Put 'em in a jar, and wait.

8 posted on 05/29/2008 9:37:15 PM PDT by Othniel (Kirk: Don't trust them. Don't believe them. Spock: They're dying. Kirk: LET THEM DIE.)
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To: wideminded
They're insect pupae (cocoons). What kind, have no idea. If you send them to your county agricultural extension service, they may be able to identify them.

Were they anywhere within a few feet from a tree? If yes, and they were down a few inches, they might be cicadas.... just a guess.

9 posted on 05/29/2008 9:37:19 PM PDT by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: Eaker; humblegunner; Darksheare; Slings and Arrows; Xenalyte

Have fun but offer any help you can. Alright?


10 posted on 05/29/2008 9:37:19 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: wideminded

larvae,, A little insecticide later on will take care of the worms ,,, not sure witch ones ,,


11 posted on 05/29/2008 9:37:23 PM PDT by piroque
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To: camerakid400

Yup. Pupas.


12 posted on 05/29/2008 9:38:27 PM PDT by djf
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To: wideminded

Alien pods. Call Art Bell.


13 posted on 05/29/2008 9:38:37 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: wideminded
They look like cicada pupae. Do you live in an area with cicadas?

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&q=cicada+pupa

14 posted on 05/29/2008 9:39:20 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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To: wideminded

It sort of looks like early development of a cockroach based on this, but I’m really not sure.

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/cockroach-7.jpg&imgrefurl=http://animals.howstuffworks.com/insects/cockroach2.htm&h=256&w=400&sz=13&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=r-B4jI8QIeR4mM:&tbnh=79&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcockroach%2Blife%2Bcycle%26gbv%3D2%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den


15 posted on 05/29/2008 9:42:02 PM PDT by Pinkbell (Don't blame me, I supported Duncan Hunter.)
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To: wideminded

They look like pupae to me, of what I do not know.

I used to find greasy fat white things in my garden dirt, I hated them.


16 posted on 05/29/2008 9:43:05 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: wideminded
You can learn the weirdest things on FreeRepublic.

And here I thought it was a political forum.

Unless maybe those are DEMOCRAT PUPAE.

17 posted on 05/29/2008 9:44:16 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: wideminded

Cicada bugs will again return to a return to a number of states in 2008. Also called the “17 year locust”, Cicada insects, or bugs, arrive by the millions, and can do damage to a variety of young trees and shrubs in your yard.

Our advice to gardeners and homeowners in affected areas, is to cover up your young trees and shrubs. The best protection is pest netting with a 1/4” mesh. The 2008 Brood will affect over a dozen states. They are: KY, GA, IN, MA, MD, NC, NJ, NY, OH, PA, TN, VA, WV Buy Pest Netting

Most, but not all years, a Cicada brood hatches, affecting anywhere from a small area to several states or more. When a particular brood matures and emerges, it is usually in many millions of insects. Fortunately, their adult life span above ground is very brief, lasting about four to six weeks.

Cicada is a flying, plant sucking insect that emerges in periodic cycles. Cicada nymphs suck juices from roots of plants. Egg laying females cause significant damage to trees during their brief, adult stage. They are not harmful to humans. Counter to some rumors, they do not bite, nor do they often land on a human or animal.


18 posted on 05/29/2008 9:46:52 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ( If there were no Cowards.. there would be no Bullies.)
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To: wideminded

I have them too- when I smash them with a shovel I feel a lot better. I thought that they might be related to grubs.


19 posted on 05/29/2008 9:47:47 PM PDT by bigred41 (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: KarlInOhio

remember the cicada invasion of ‘87. holy cow! that was bad.


20 posted on 05/29/2008 9:50:36 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: blackbart.223
Alien pods. Call Art Bell.

That was my initial response too! Hehe.
21 posted on 05/29/2008 9:51:39 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ( If there were no Cowards.. there would be no Bullies.)
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To: KarlInOhio; wideminded
If you found these several inches deep, I agree with Karl and it was my first impression that they are cicada pupae. Have you ever seen nice round holes in your yard, which is what I see after a cicada imergence?
22 posted on 05/29/2008 9:51:42 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: La Enchiladita

The white creatures sound like grubs and made quite nice fish bait, but not nice additions to the garden. ;-)


23 posted on 05/29/2008 9:53:08 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: wideminded

What do they taste like?


24 posted on 05/29/2008 9:53:33 PM PDT by budwiesest (Don't bug me man, can't you see I'm working here? And what not.)
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To: wideminded

25 posted on 05/29/2008 9:55:53 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Grubs.... fish bait... right. I had to think really hard to remember. Yuk, I guess I wouldn’t enjoy fishing then.


26 posted on 05/29/2008 9:57:40 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: gardengirl; Gabz

Ping


27 posted on 05/29/2008 9:59:21 PM PDT by La Enchiladita
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To: robomatik
I lived in cicada central in 1987. Those were a few awful weeks. In 2004, my new neighborhood was relatively cicada free so I could sleep with my windows open, unlike some of my friends who were suffering from Post Traumatic Cicada Disorder by the time the breeding season was done.
28 posted on 05/29/2008 10:00:24 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Pray for Rattendaemmerung: the final mutually destructive battle between Obama and Hillary in Denver)
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To: La Enchiladita

LOL! I use the fake plastic grubs when one is necessary. Not a big live grub fan myself.


29 posted on 05/29/2008 10:00:27 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde ("When the government fears the people there is liberty ... " Thomas Jefferson)
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To: wideminded

Gifts from our rabbit friends :>)


30 posted on 05/29/2008 10:01:05 PM PDT by irishtenor (Check out my blog at http://boompa53.blogspot.com/)
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To: KarlInOhio
"Post Traumatic Cicada Disorder"

LOL.

31 posted on 05/29/2008 10:02:28 PM PDT by robomatik ((wine plug: renascentvineyards.com cabernet sauvignon, riesling, and merlot))
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To: divine_moment_of_facts
"That was my initial response too! Hehe."

At least you caught them in time. Step on them and we will all be safe.

32 posted on 05/29/2008 10:05:15 PM PDT by blackbart.223 (I live in Northern Nevada. Reid doesn't represent me.)
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To: wideminded
Do not fall asleep


33 posted on 05/29/2008 10:10:46 PM PDT by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: wideminded

I remember those from my childhood in my Houston neighborhood. It was weird that the pointed end of them did move around when picked up.


34 posted on 05/29/2008 10:45:39 PM PDT by Moonmad27 (Simplify, simplify, simplify. H.D. Thoreau)
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To: wideminded

Definitely moth pupae.

A Google image search for moth pupae will show a number of similar examples.


35 posted on 05/29/2008 10:48:42 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom - It's not just a job, It's an Adventure)
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To: wideminded
Put 'em back! They'll be crawlin' out of the ground soon enough!


36 posted on 05/29/2008 10:54:31 PM PDT by uglybiker (I do not suffer from mental illness. I quite enjoy it, actually.)
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To: wideminded

Mexican jumping beans that were buried in 1969.


37 posted on 05/29/2008 10:58:34 PM PDT by Cedar
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To: wideminded

That seems Cicada. The 17 year is out this year. There is a 13 year that made an enormous presence a couple years ago.


38 posted on 05/29/2008 11:04:38 PM PDT by eyedigress
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To: dayglored
And here I thought it was a political forum.

Yes, but I don't feel too bad - five years here and I have only put up two vanity threads. And this is getting more replies than some of my political threads.

39 posted on 05/29/2008 11:05:57 PM PDT by wideminded
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To: wideminded; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; martin_fierro; ...
Lindsey Graham's testicles.


40 posted on 05/29/2008 11:10:51 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Code Pink should guard against creating stereotypes in the Mincing Community." --Titan Magroyne)
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To: Gummi Bear; wideminded

I think you’re right Gummi Bear, it’s most likely a Tomato Hornworm. It does look just like the pictures on the site you linked, even if wideminded’s are just “little guys” in comparison to the specimen they are showing. It even has the smooth part, and then the twisted “cone” part at the end. They even mentioned that the woman sending the pictures in found them IN the ground - and the info. says they emerge from the ground as moths, lay their eggs, and do it all over again! LOL

Wideminded, do you have a garden in the area you were digging?

And, check out the picture of the caterpillar it comes from - ever seen these strange looking guys out in your yard? They are kinda spooky looking, IMHO! O.o


41 posted on 05/30/2008 12:23:52 AM PDT by LibertyRocks (The LibertyRocks Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & http://www.LibertyRocks.us)
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To: wideminded

they might be cicada pupae. Take them to the County Agent, and he/they will identify them for you.


42 posted on 05/30/2008 12:45:54 AM PDT by redhead (I used to be an anarchist, but I quit--too many rules.)
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To: wideminded

Democrats


43 posted on 05/30/2008 2:41:44 AM PDT by leadhead (Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think,)
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To: wideminded

44 posted on 05/30/2008 3:56:42 AM PDT by Thrownatbirth (.....Iraq Invasion fan since '91.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
On a more serious note, I recently heard of a movie, "Mars Needs Women."

Is this true?

Does Mars need women?

If so, why?
45 posted on 05/30/2008 5:06:43 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: La Enchiladita
I used to find greasy fat white things in my garden dirt,

Come on, the guy has a brain tumor.. lay off!

46 posted on 05/30/2008 5:18:53 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: La Enchiladita; wideminded; Gabz

While the pupae look like pod people wannabes and the hornworms themselves are dis-gus-ting, they hatch into hummingbird moths. Too bad we can’t have the moths without the other stages! The moths are quite interesting to watch—they fly just like a hummingbird and are about half the size of a hummingbird but larger than a bumblebee. They usually come out early and late, and sometimes on cloudy days. If you see a hornworm with little rice looking grains all over it, don’t squish it. Get it off your tomatoes, certainly, but put it in the woods or something. The rice thingys are parasitic wasps that use the caterpillers for a buffet.


47 posted on 05/30/2008 5:39:47 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: wideminded
How big are they? Does your area have cicadas? Depending on the species, if they are cicadas, you could have a very long wait to find out what they are: Some cicadas stay as pupaes for 17 years!

Mark

48 posted on 05/30/2008 5:54:21 AM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: wideminded

I saw these in a movie one time. I think it was one of the Star Trek series. One character held it up and it burrowed into the brain of the other character via his ear canal. EMERGENCY! Do not get it near your head! (^;


50 posted on 05/30/2008 6:51:01 AM PDT by Clay Moore ("My daddy says I'm this close to living in the yard." Ralph Wiggum)
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