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Posted on 06/07/2008 9:36:22 PM PDT by george76
A man from B.C.'s Interior not only survived being mauled by a grizzly — he killed the bear as well.
John Shorter, 38, was hiking near Dease Lake in Northern B.C. Tuesday when he said he smelled a bear in the area.
"I heard a woofing sound, turned, seen a grizz coming at me. I managed to get my rifle up and get one round into the chest.… At that point he got on top of me, obviously, and took me down," Shorter said. "He proceeded to try to maul me in the back of the scalp and on the neck, and I protected my neck with my hands. They got fairly chewed up."
The bear was biting at his hands, which were covering his neck, so he dropped his rifle. He scrambled to get it back, eventually putting some distance between himself and the bear.
He shot the animal a second time, this time killing it.
"You just put yourself in overdrive and try and not get yourself killed," Shorter said. "It's an amazing amount of adrenaline going through yourself.… You get lots of thoughts going through your mind but you think about, obviously, your family and it's worth living, so fight."
I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I'd better go and get some help,"
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Any good ?
When you go bear hunting, you must remember that sometimes you get the bear, and sometimes the bear gets you.
I’ve done alot of hiking/camping in remote British Columbia...always worried about running into one of these bears...saw some giant fresh footprints once...and a recent kill...fur everywhere, above in the trees, on the ground, at the side of the trail...just two hooves left. Think it was a deer. Yikes.
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"... I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I'd better go and get some help..."
It's official. We have found the one man tougher than Chuck Norris.
I bet Mr John Shorter clanks when he walks!
Well, there are worse things...like getting mauled by the IRS.
liah
HULA HULA RIVER — No one will ever know how Richard and Kathy Huffman came to be killed by a grizzly bear along this river in late June.
It is clear the attack by a healthy, 9-year-old male bear was not the fault of the Anchorage couple. They kept a clean camp. They pitched their tent where they could see bears coming and where the bears could see them to avoid confrontation. They stored their food in bear-proof containers.
And they carried a gun just in case all of these bear avoidance efforts failed and they had to defend themselves.
They were killed by a bear anyway, and authorities said the dead rafters had done everything right. That is true, but there are also things they could have done differently.
“If they did everything right, and they died, what’s the message we’re giving the public?’’ wondered bear biologist Tom Smith last week. “You can’t do anything about this?
“Well, one thing I can do is camp in two tents.’’
http://www.illinoiswaters.net/heartland/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9366
Because grizzly bears are significantly more powerful than black bears and can kill as easily by accident as by design, it was long assumed that these bears were less prone to hunt humans than are black bears.
Smith, however, says the data indicates the opposite.
“If we factor in that there are at least three times more black bears in Alaska than brown/grizzlies, we see that brown/grizzlies have actually had more than double the predacious events per 1,000 bears than black bears,’’
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“I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I’d better go and get some help...”
At least his brains weren’t hanging out afterward.
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I’d say he is probably British.
Well, I NEVER!
HAY, another bear survival story
‘I noticed my shoulder was dislocated. I managed to pop it in myself and thought I’d better go and get some help.’
— John Shorter
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The grizzly bear is the most fearsome animal on dry land, is highly aggressive, and has a bad temper.
If you’re hiking in grizzly country, bring a .44 magnum.
Bring a rifle. Even the much-maligned .30-30 is twice as powerful as a .44 magnum.
Bring both.
Best defense --stay outta griz country
Obviously they were named by Joe Pesci
Yeah, what the heck. Why take chances? The bleeding might attract another griz.
Can I bring a flame thrower?
That’d be kind of cool, seeing an 800 pound ball of blazing fur sprinting across the horizon.
This idea gets better the more I think about it.
How about Hummer mounted flame throwers hosing down herds of protected caribou?
Yep, that's amazing stuff, but it's a real bummer when it wears off and you feel all the things you broke.
Get a video about calling bears. Or, just buy some varmit calls, rabbit, etc. and sit in the bush and start blowing on them frantically until you see a bear coming straight for you.
Hey George—heading back to Denver along the side road next to I-70 between Georgetown and Idaho Springs on Thursday, we spotted a brownish looking bear in the road heading to the water between the highway and the road. I tried to take a picture, but he darted back up the hill and we coudn’t see him. We spun around in the Jeep and he was back on the road again but as soon as he saw us he headed back up the hill. First time I’ve ever seen a bear in Colorado or any place. It was kind of exciting. Thankfully not as exciting as this guy’s story though.
Whatever shoots that shell kills on BOTH ENDS.
Unless he would have spined or brained it, the bear most likley still would have had half a min or a min to do some damage even if he would have taken the heart and lungs out.
Doesn't take them long to do some very serious damage saw some pictures of a grizz attack years ago the warden and his helper thought the bear was on him for about 30 seconds it did a bit of damage in that short time.
I wonder what cailber of rifle and what bullet he was using . He most likely was hunting black bears at the time. Being armed is a very good thing I now carry a TI 41 mag back packing When one sees a big bear one always wishish for something bigger. But when one is out humping the mts for a week one wishish for something lighter
Yeah ... my first wife looked great in photo's also ... you I couldn't live there though.
In an area with a lot of black bears, it would be a good idea to carry a .44 or larger sidearm for self defence (works on two-legged predators too BTW).
In an area with lots of grizzlies though? Well, I’d recommend a 12 ga. with slugs or something along the lines of a 45-70 Guide Gun.
The .44 is a fine pistol cartridge... but it’s still just a pistol cartridge. To give you an idea of the world of difference between a pistol and a rifle or shotgun cartridge, check out this fun page: http://www.theboxotruth.com/docs/bot5.htm
This is what a padlock looks when it’s hit by a .44 Magnum: http://www.theboxotruth.com/images/5-5.jpg
This is what a padlock looks like when it’s hit by a shotgun slug: http://www.theboxotruth.com/images/5-14.jpg
Good job
Sounds like John Shorter didn't need any help, matter of fact he might not even have needed the rifle, this guy is tough.
Shouldn’t he be charged with something? If in USA he would be.
Are those from a four bore?
Bear Attacks: The Deadly Truth
I think this is the best of the bear attack books. I have a copy and have given one away as a gift. An excellent read.
Thanks
If a bear mauled me, I’d be ticked off too. ;’)
The Forest Service used to issue .375 H&H Magnums to their folks in Alaska...sounds about right to me.
Of course, that was 30 years ago. Now, they probably issue talking points and tapes of classical music to play while you are being mauled.
When I was up there, 2 Air Force personnel were hunting Grizzlies with rifles, one shot a grizzly and it rushed him, bit into his rifle. He raised his front leg up next to his mouth and snapped the wooden butt stock off like it was a toothpick. The hunter's partner shot and killed the bear, but not soon enough to save him.
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