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Posted on 06/13/2008 7:50:50 AM PDT by myself6

Im just kind of wondering...

When does it become necessary to split up?

In any relationship, sometimes things get to the point that there are irreconcilable differences. The people involved just cant get along any longer and are making each others lives miserable. They have nothing in common, do not agree on anything and do not care what the other thinks. At that point I think its best to end the unhealthy relationship and go about forming new ones.

Im not talking about the relationship between two people, Im talking about the abusive relationship between "conservatives" and "liberals" or otherwise those people who value individual freedom and those who value being a slave to the socialist collective.

This relationship cannot continue. We have nothing in common, we agree on nothing, and we simply don't want/care to hear what the other says. There is no trust and there is no common ground. All thats left are two "people" who cant stand each other trying to tell the other how to live.

My thought on this is that we would all be better off if we just went our own way. This union of states could dissolve their "relationship" and reform new ones based on common interests. But how realistic is that? Can it be done in a civil manner? or will force be required?

Personally, I think its time to talk about this. Its time to seriously look into what it would take to make this happen. We just cant continue to stay in this abusive relationship any longer.

Honestly, I don't care how it gets done and I don't care where I have to move to and I don't really care that Ill have to start over. I just cant stand living with these people any longer.

I dont want to follow their rules or pray to their gods. I dont want to be subject to their social engineering. Im just sick of being the D cell battery that keeps the socialist machine running. Me and the money I earn are NOT a resource for anyone to use as they see fit.

=(

Im at that point. I just want to move on and I guess I was wondering if anyone else had any insight or reasoning as to what could be done.


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1 posted on 06/13/2008 7:50:51 AM PDT by myself6
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To: myself6

The US of A, still the last best hope for humanity, else I would’ve moved out already!


2 posted on 06/13/2008 7:52:48 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (I'll take a "third Bush term" over a second Carter term ANY DAY!)
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To: myself6
You were never married to such people or causes, so it is entirely acceptable to break off dialog with them.

However, if you consider their ideas or actions a threat, then consider them an enemy and seek to undermine their power.

3 posted on 06/13/2008 7:53:18 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: myself6

> My thought on this is that we would all be better off if we just went our own way. This union of states could dissolve their “relationship” and reform new ones based on common interests. But how realistic is that? Can it be done in a civil manner? or will force be required?

Didn’t y’all kinda try that once before, in the mid-1800’s? How did that work out for you?

I’m speculating that this time ‘round, with modern military equipment and doctrines, it would be a whole lot messier.


4 posted on 06/13/2008 7:54:57 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: myself6
Honestly, I don't care how it gets done and I don't care where I have to move to and I don't really care that Ill have to start over. I just cant stand living with these people any longer.

Then move. Who's stopping you?

5 posted on 06/13/2008 7:55:53 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: myself6

I suggest this: Keep your head down, keep working, take care of your family and friends and trust in God. All will be well. Also this: Keep voting.


6 posted on 06/13/2008 7:56:22 AM PDT by RexBeach
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To: ConservativeMind

Oh.. I dont know..

My wife takes most of my money and tells me what to do all teh time...

Kinda feels like a marrige. ;-)


7 posted on 06/13/2008 7:58:38 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: myself6
As long as we're fantasizing, I'd love to see the red states and the blue states divide and become separate "countries' for a period of about 7 or 8 years.

Then I'd like to sit back and gloat over the disparate economies and cultural/social health of each entity.

I know it would kinda be like the results of the paths embarked on by East and West Germany after the war.....prosperity for one and meltdown for the other.

Leni

8 posted on 06/13/2008 7:58:39 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Stay Home in Nov. For More Taxation, Regulation, Litigation, Ginsburgization and Obamination)
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To: myself6
Have you read "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand? I have a bumper sticker. I agree with everything you said. At a minimum, surround yourself with as many like minded people as possible. Under the two Clinton terms it was as if we were being "Occupied" by a foreign power. Now we are really going to be alienated and we will have to deal with it. I see a "Balkinization" of America.
9 posted on 06/13/2008 7:58:56 AM PDT by unkus
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To: myself6
I responded to a post a couple of weeks back where someone had commented on “my liberal friends”.

I DO NOT have “liberal friends” PERIOD. Maybe liberal relatives (not many, but some yellow dog democrats), liberal co-workers or acquaintances. BUT NO LIBERAL FRIENDS.

People who vote democratic and support governmental control of everything, abortion on demand, flag burning, gay marriage, open borders, the UN, etc. etc. simply do not share my values and therefore cannot be my friends.

I am all for your proposed separation. In fact, I have been actively separate from liberals for many years.

10 posted on 06/13/2008 7:59:39 AM PDT by Tahoe3002 (USMC 1972-1981)
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To: myself6

Dr. Laura for president?


11 posted on 06/13/2008 8:00:14 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder ()OK. We're still working on your ones.)
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To: myself6

Obama is using the Hugo Chavez model for gaining power. He is appealing to the many “have nots” to vote him in as President, and he will pay them back by giving them the wealth of the “haves.” It will work...for a while...until the haves quit producing the wealth and the wheels fall off the economy.
It is no accident that Venezuela’s oil production has fallen every year since Chavez was elected. Those with their hands on the levers of production can slow it down and there is absolutely nothing the government hacks can do about it except jail some and threaten all.
When the goodies stop flowing completely, the unwashed get disillusioned and riot in the streets. Then the dictator beats a hasty retreat to some haven with millions of dollars he has stashed in Swiss accounts while he had the chance. We have interesting times ahead....


12 posted on 06/13/2008 8:01:05 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: myself6

You could be like all those hollywood types that complain and say they are going to move...but don’t.


13 posted on 06/13/2008 8:01:47 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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To: myself6
Not very practical...it wouldn't be just insane liberals I would want to be separated from, also, a bunch of the crazy Conservatives who care about nothing other than their own self righteous, prejudiced principals.
14 posted on 06/13/2008 8:02:22 AM PDT by top 2 toe red ("Cackling hillary...makes her sound like she is mentally-illary." Jimmy Kimmel. "Uh...she is!" Me)
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To: MinuteGal

That is exactly what Jefferson Davis did. States Rights were the issue, not what everybody has been tought.


15 posted on 06/13/2008 8:03:53 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

> Didn’t y’all kinda try that once before, in the mid-1800’s? How did that work out for you?

I’m speculating that this time ‘round, with modern military equipment and doctrines, it would be a whole lot messier.

Lol... whois “yall”? I live in Wisconsin! I assume your referencing the civil war? Meh... I dont really see what that has to do with what Im talking about. Unless you feel the socialists will not let their cattle go without a fight?


16 posted on 06/13/2008 8:05:01 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Didn’t y’all kinda try that once before, in the mid-1800’s? How did that work out for you?

I’m speculating that this time ‘round, with modern military equipment and doctrines, it would be a whole lot messier.

Especially considering it is boiling down to urban hellhole vs the rest of the nation.

17 posted on 06/13/2008 8:05:09 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: stuartcr

No.. Ive thought about it for a while now. I would go.

The Hollywood people you reference don’t need to go anywhere... They are already where they want to be and its just feels more like home every day for them.


18 posted on 06/13/2008 8:10:19 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: unkus

Atlas Shrugged was 5 times too long. But besides that, you can’t mandate a “conservative country”.

As an exampl, Israel was created to be both Jewish and a democracy. It has proven to be a major problem. They can’t annex the West Bank and Gaza because doing so as a democracy would mean giving millions of muslim arabs the vote and then they would cease to be a Jewish country. If they mandate that only jews count, they cease to be a democracy.

Your conservative utopia could be either a democracy or conservative, but not both. Inevitably some would be more conservative than others. Conservatives believe in democracy and small government and freedom of speach and freedom of the press. How long would it be before you would have to decide to either become a conservative dictatorship (an oxymoron)or let the people decide? If you let the people decide, your new country, if you are VERY lucky, would closely resemble the grand ol’ USA


19 posted on 06/13/2008 8:12:34 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: myself6
Move to NH.

Join the secessionists in VT.

20 posted on 06/13/2008 8:12:52 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: myself6

Discussing this last night, at a bar with a friend and fellow Freeper.

The bar was celebrating something from a Democratic state candidate. I would go on to say that they were celebrating something of substance, but they stand for nothing of substance so I guess they were just there to spend some tax dollars on fruity drinks.

And looking around, we were pretty sure we were the only conservatives there. So we discussed some of this, I on the stance that there will be another neighbor-on-neighbor civil war.

He asked me where they will get the guns. The conversation was over, the tab was settled up.


21 posted on 06/13/2008 8:14:28 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: unkus

Yes.. Ive read it.

If only it was so easy. =)


22 posted on 06/13/2008 8:16:47 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: Red_Devil 232
That is exactly what Jefferson Davis did. States Rights were the issue, not what everybody has been tought.

Almost everybody I love is burried in Jeff Davis County MS, in a church overlooking Lake Jeff Davis. Your statement is correct, but it is wrong too.

The war between the states was fought because of states' rights, but the ONLY right at issue was the right to own slaves. There would have been no Civil War if the South had voluntarilly abandoned slavery.

23 posted on 06/13/2008 8:17:37 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: myself6

“separation?”

my spouse is a kennedy democrat and is becoming more and more disillusioned with the antics of the current crop of democrats; there will soon, i hope, be one voter leaving the democrat party.

after that, if they enter upon my property i will insist that they leave. if they do not i will swear out a trespass complaint and have them arrested, every single arrogant one of them.

they are self-appointed intellectuals of the insidious, cancerous type.

imho


25 posted on 06/13/2008 8:21:01 AM PDT by ripley
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To: myself6

Instead of spending time wondering about where the lines would theoretically be drawn, let me propose something to you.

Find a state where there are many who share your social and political views. Some are Wyoming, Idaho, Utah, and Alaska.

Start a job search now. Don’t piddle around waiting for the clouds to open and give us a real conservative. Don’t wait for your hopes to be fulfilled. Start DOING. And start doing it today.

Get a job where you will move. Move there.

In the interim, start spending your money as cautiously as possible. If a company is staffed by socialists, don’t do any business with them. Hit mail order if necessary - but give no more money to your enemies.

Cut all ties to socialists. Explain to them, without heat, that Socialism is the same as Slavery and you will not do business or associate with slavers of any stripe. Cut them out of your life. Ignore them as much as legally possible. Shun them.

Move to a free state and consolidate your life. Buy reloading supplies and ammo just in case. Also, invest in non-perishable supplies in order to ensure that your ability to survive bad times is enhanced.

Keep in mind that quality of life has only a passing relationship to income levels. Be involved in your new hometown, and be well-informed in all levels of local political arenas.

Be polite and ensure that you present your position with good cheer and with firmness. Keep America alive, because it lives only when men and women live up to its’ standards at home.

What needs to separate are people - and how you do it is by simply informing the socialists that they are not tolerated and will never be. Then, after informing them of the truth, cut them off and have no dealings with them if at all possible. Do not reward treachery. Be unafraid of naming treachery for what it is.


26 posted on 06/13/2008 8:26:14 AM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Centurion2000
Unlimited democracy is a very very BAD idea.

So you create a fascist state? No thanks

27 posted on 06/13/2008 8:26:24 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

I think a representative republic would be fine. Take the US constitution and “enhance” it with a bit more clarity on what the branches of government can and cant do.

I dont really care if I live in a country with “liberal” people. I just dont want them to be able to impose their beliefs on me, through the misinterpretation of the founding documents.

There are no utopias, but we can do MUCH better than what we have today...


28 posted on 06/13/2008 8:28:32 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: myself6
I dont really care if I live in a country with “liberal” people. I just dont want them to be able to impose their beliefs on me, through the misinterpretation of the founding documents.

You will have to go somewher else, some other country, because judicial review isn't leaving

29 posted on 06/13/2008 8:31:42 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Soliton

Well....

Isnt that what we are talking about? =)


30 posted on 06/13/2008 8:35:22 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: myself6

No, because there is no better country than the USA


31 posted on 06/13/2008 8:37:47 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Centurion2000

Same disruptor as Rome2000 who was peddling this quasi-monarchist bull$#it in another thread yesterday.

Look, princess, you try to take my franchise OR ANY OTHER AMERICAN’S and you become the Enemy, capiche? Anyone who bases their politics on being a “landed class” with more rights than the “landless” is unworthy of living here. We kicked the lickspittles of Kings and Potentates the hell out of our country back in the 1770’s, pookie, and you should stay gone.


32 posted on 06/13/2008 8:41:42 AM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Soliton

However, it was what I was talking about...

I look at a country the same way I look at a political party. the names stay the same but the ideas and philosophies that drive them can change. I think the founding documents and the ideas behind them are what deserves being preserved. The geological map of a country is pretty meaningless in reference to the issues we are discussing.

Your comment of “there is no better country than the USA” is really kind of meaningless unless put into perspective. Do you mean the geographic map of the US? Or do you mean the principles it was founded on that have been almost entirely abandoned?


33 posted on 06/13/2008 8:47:19 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus

Extremely well said. My thoughts, exactly. Just for sanity’s sake, I must surround myself with like-minded people. Socialism is the enemy of my freedom and prosperity and I will treat it and it’s useful idiots as such.


34 posted on 06/13/2008 8:52:04 AM PDT by unkus
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To: myself6
Your comment of “there is no better country than the USA” is really kind of meaningless unless put into perspective. Do you mean the geographic map of the US? Or do you mean the principles it was founded on that have been almost entirely abandoned?

I intended no hidden meaning or nuance. I believe that the USA as it is today is the greatest country on earth. If you want to change it there is a process in place.

35 posted on 06/13/2008 8:52:54 AM PDT by Soliton
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
Same disruptor as Rome2000 who was peddling this quasi-monarchist bull$#it in another thread yesterday.

Look, princess, you try to take my franchise OR ANY OTHER AMERICAN’S and you become the Enemy, capiche? Anyone who bases their politics on being a “landed class” with more rights than the “landless” is unworthy of living here. We kicked the lickspittles of Kings and Potentates the hell out of our country back in the 1770’s, pookie, and you should stay gone.

That's a load of crap. When this country was founded you needed to be a property owner in order to vote.

The franchise has ALWAYS been limited in this country.

Disruptor? Hell no. Been here for 7 years. And YES I would go after removing the franchise from welfare leeches.

36 posted on 06/13/2008 8:57:35 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Soliton
Unlimited democracy is a very very BAD idea.

So you create a fascist state? No thanks

Fascism? No, fascism is what we're getting by allowing welfare recipients to vote themselves more money from the treasury.

I am NOT promoting monarchy like another idiot poster has suggested or even quasi-monarchy. Take a good look at the democrat politics and you can see elements of fuedalism in their tactics and strategies.

something to think about before some admin yanks my post

The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money.

Unlimited democracy is mob rule.

37 posted on 06/13/2008 9:04:51 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Soliton

=)

I dont believe you intended anything hidden. I simply pointed out that your comment is pointless unless you put it in perspective. Dont sweat it tho, your not the only person who has issues understanding the difference between loving your country and loving what your country stands for.

I can say that I love the founding principles of this country. However I do NOT love what this country has become through the influence of collectivists.

Its the same reason Ive abandoned the republican party. I believe in certain things. If the party or country no longer supports those things, then I cannot support the party or country. Is this really that hard of a concept to understand?


38 posted on 06/13/2008 9:05:03 AM PDT by myself6 (Nazi = socialist , democrat=socialist , therefore democrat = Nazi)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
Voting requirements timeline

You really should study some history about property and other requirements for voting.

39 posted on 06/13/2008 9:11:20 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: myself6

As a conservative I had often though about how it would be if we were to cut this country in two, right down the middle, a blue half and a red half. I don’t give a damn which half is which, left coast, right coast, bottom half, top half, it makes no difference, because my half would be the far better half in the future. Dumbocrats realize this and would cling to us parasitic teenagers with black lipstick and streaking mascara.


40 posted on 06/13/2008 9:12:21 AM PDT by MarineBrat (My wife and I took an AIDS vaccination that the Church offers.)
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To: Centurion2000

And you should leave the country. There’s not enough aristocratic boots for you to lick.

Take my franchise and you deserve nothing but hanging.

Get the hell out. This is Free Republic, not Landed Gentry Kingdom.


41 posted on 06/13/2008 9:37:56 AM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: stuartcr

Why would they move when they are worshiped and adored here. Besides they have to be here to support their liberal candidates. And yet WE are the ones who put money in their wallets, then they go and give it to people like Obama. The time has come to seriously pull back from anything hollywood. I just get sick to death of them and the nasty stuff they bring to the public. I mean they have serious money and get the media attention that the average American does not have.Last week watching a movie on TV,I thought was safe,there were 10 abuses of the Lord’s name but they deleted the word shit. I read more now than ever! But these hollywood liberals have too much influence on the young people who want to be just like them. It seems now that the actress Scarlett Johanson is Obama’s text and email buddy,she just loves him. Would Obama do the same for just some ordinary person? Nope he knows where the money is and he gets free media attention because she is a celebrity.


42 posted on 06/13/2008 9:41:37 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
And you should leave the country. There’s not enough aristocratic boots for you to lick.

Take my franchise and you deserve nothing but hanging.

Get the hell out. This is Free Republic, not Landed Gentry Kingdom.

Pack a lunch and buy some land peasant. Or at the very least get off welfare. This is Free Republic not Free Mob-Rule Democracy. Too bad you cannot seem to understand we have voting standards for a reason.

I didn't put my life on the line in the Corps to watch my country get torn to shreds by the peasant mobs of the inner cities that enable the democratic fascist machine running the country into the ground with obstructionism and bread and circuses.

43 posted on 06/13/2008 9:43:24 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Centurion2000
Disruptor? Hell no. Been here for 7 years. And YES I would go after removing the franchise from welfare leeches.

Disruptor? Of course you are. With Rome2000 being your Alt, registered the same time, similar bull$#it same anti-American mouth. You're a disruptor, you're a friggin' neo-aristocrat fantasist - you're a false flag disruptor OR you are seriously deranged and should indeed be booted.

Taking the franchise from citizens is what jackbooted fascists wank off about in their dank basements. Get out, you deserve nothing but contempt and are not my countryman. Try to take my franchise and you'll be keenly familiar with the legal concept of Fighting Words, lickspittle.

Anyone who thinks that there is a "better class" of citizen due to finances is not an American, should not be listened to, and should in fact be tarred, feathered, horsewhipped to the border and fed to angry dogs, in my opinion.

But you're right in being concerned about admin action, punkie. You and your alt accounts failed. Here's hoping you choke on your own bile, princess.

44 posted on 06/13/2008 9:50:59 AM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Centurion2000
Disruptor? Hell no. Been here for 7 years. And YES I would go after removing the franchise from welfare leeches.

Disruptor? Of course you are. With Rome2000 being your Alt, registered the same time, similar bull$#it same anti-American mouth. You're a disruptor, you're a friggin' neo-aristocrat fantasist - you're a false flag disruptor OR you are seriously deranged and should indeed be booted.

Taking the franchise from citizens is what jackbooted fascists wank off about in their dank basements. Get out, you deserve nothing but contempt and are not my countryman. Try to take my franchise and you'll be keenly familiar with the legal concept of Fighting Words, lickspittle.

Anyone who thinks that there is a "better class" of citizen due to finances is not an American, should not be listened to, and should in fact be tarred, feathered, horsewhipped to the border and fed to angry dogs, in my opinion.

But you're right in being concerned about admin action, punkie. You and your alt accounts failed. Here's hoping you choke on your own bile, princess.

45 posted on 06/13/2008 9:51:02 AM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Centurion2000
I have a successful business, princess. But you outed yourself by calling me "peasant". Proof positive that you're not American.

No true American considers someone a "peasant" unless they subscribe to a repulsive worldview that DOES NOT come from our Republic's ideals. Plus, judging from your comment it seems you stink of racism too, but that's to be expected from a disruptor.

If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace.We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. -Samuel Adams (1722-1803)

Crouch down and lick your masters' hands, traitor. Get out.

47 posted on 06/13/2008 9:58:25 AM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
I have a successful business, princess. But you outed yourself by calling me "peasant". Proof positive that you're not American.

Are you always this myopic or are you off your medication today?

Calling me a racist? Wow, what other pages of political correctness are you going to steal in order to pathetically save your ideological position? Princess? How original. Try harder if you really want to offend me.

I look down at welfare queens and call them peasants. True charity cases deserve compassion and help which is what a church is for. Lifelong welfare cases deserve contempt. Of course, so does your exaltation of mob rule.

48 posted on 06/13/2008 10:08:56 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus
Posted again .... because a moderator wants to suppress a dissenting opinion regarding mob rule democracy.

Disruptor? Of course you are. With Rome2000 being your Alt, registered the same time, similar bull$#it same anti-American mouth. You're a disruptor, you're a friggin' neo-aristocrat fantasist - you're a false flag disruptor OR you are seriously deranged and should indeed be booted.

No, not a disruptor; I don't have two accounts and you sound like a raving Obama supporter.

Taking the franchise from citizens is what jackbooted fascists wank off about in their dank basements.

Or the founders of this nation did when they created this country.

Try to take my franchise and you'll be keenly familiar with the legal concept of Fighting Words, lickspittle.

Ok, I said fighting words. Do something about it.

Anyone who thinks that there is a "better class" of citizen due to finances is not an American, should not be listened to, and should in fact be tarred, feathered, horsewhipped to the border and fed to angry dogs, in my opinion.

Spoken like a true democrat or marxist. There are better classes of people. Welfare leeches are NOT my equals, even though we are equal under the law.

But you're right in being concerned about admin action, punkie. You and your alt accounts failed. Here's hoping you choke on your own bile, princess.

Sure thing. I'm so scared of an internet poster. /sarc just in case you are too dense to catch it.

Ironically, who has tyrant in their screen name again?

49 posted on 06/13/2008 10:11:39 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus; Admin Moderator
Re: Separation? From Republicanus_Tyrannus | 06/13/2008 9:59:44 AM PDT new

Come to Tucson, shithead, and I’ll fulfill your purile fantasies. You deserve nothing but contempt, scumbag lickspittle.

Nice private mail you sent me.

50 posted on 06/13/2008 10:14:16 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Beware the fury of the man that cannot find hope or justice.)
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