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SPOILERS: 'Battlestar Galactica's' Adam And Eve?
SyFy Portal ^ | 06/17/08 | MICHAEL HINMAN

Posted on 06/17/2008 6:13:21 PM PDT by KevinDavis

The following story contains possible MODERATE SPOILERS for the final episodes of "Battlestar Galactica" in the second half of the fourth season. This story also contains RUMORS which have not been officially confirmed, and should be treated as rumor until confirmed by SciFi Channel.

Idle speculation, or is there something brewing here.

A lot of fans were puzzled by the fact that Chief Tyrol was made a Cylon -- a part of the Final Five -- despite the fact that he not only was married, but he had a kid.

"Battlestar Galactica" made a big deal about the hybrid child Hera and how she was the face of things to come. But the same amount of attention has been absent from Nicholas Tyrol, even after it was revealed he himself is a Cylon Hybrid.

So what does this mean? One source for the show says that the future story involving Nicholas and Hera will have its own Biblical proportions -- like Genesis.

(Excerpt) Read more at syfyportal.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: bsg; cylon; finalfive; scifi
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"There are those who believe... that life here... began out there. Far across the universe. With tribes of humans... who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians... or the Toltecs... or the Mayans... that they may have been the architects of the Great Pyramids... or the lost civilizations of Lemuria... or Atlantis... Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man... who even now fight to survive... somewhere beyond the heavens."
1 posted on 06/17/2008 6:13:21 PM PDT by KevinDavis
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To: gary_b_UK; Truth29; NonValueAdded; MizSterious; GreenLanternCorps; Kangaroo Court; prous; ...

2 posted on 06/17/2008 6:14:00 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: KevinDavis

Any of us could have written that article months ago.


3 posted on 06/17/2008 6:19:04 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: KevinDavis

Given the liberal leanings of this woefully disjointed series, I’d bet more on Adam and Steve than Adam and Eve.


4 posted on 06/17/2008 6:20:01 PM PDT by Jagman
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To: KevinDavis

It will turn out that the entire universe within which Battlestar Galactica takes place is part of a child’s science project on a planet of super-advanced beings in a universe which is one of many virtual realities created by a team of super-duper-advanced beings on a planet within a universe that is merely the dream of a butterfly on a planet within a universe ...


5 posted on 06/17/2008 6:22:19 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Jagman

Um there ain’t no liberal leanings.


6 posted on 06/17/2008 6:22:26 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: KevinDavis
Pretty interesting. To me and others, it seems like they landed in Brooklyn (you can see the wreckage of the bridge) looking across the East River. One guy actually Google Earth'd the approximate position of the CGI camera shot.

Get This: Where the Colonials and Cylons are standing is on a street (Park something or other) in Brooklyn that has a particular building standing on it today, with a view as we see it on screen.

The name of this real-life building?

The Watch Tower.

7 posted on 06/17/2008 6:24:01 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: marajade; Jagman; All

That is true. Plus the show creator, Ron Moore is not a liberal.


8 posted on 06/17/2008 6:24:43 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: buccaneer81; All

Holy Frack...


9 posted on 06/17/2008 6:25:36 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

would those be the advanced, highly evolved aliens that designed life here on earth, like Dawkins suggested?


10 posted on 06/17/2008 6:25:48 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: marajade

Right. And the whole suicide bomber plotline reflected what, exactly?


11 posted on 06/17/2008 6:27:34 PM PDT by Jagman
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To: marajade
Um there ain’t no liberal leanings.

Only because if it goes any more to the left, it will be "going the wrong way".

12 posted on 06/17/2008 6:28:29 PM PDT by Victoria_R
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To: marajade
Um there ain’t no liberal leanings.

If you listen to the podcasts, Rawny Moore himself admits the show leans left.

13 posted on 06/17/2008 6:29:40 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: KevinDavis; marajade
A shot of the WatchTower building and beyond...


14 posted on 06/17/2008 6:32:58 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: TheWasteLand

Um if you listen to the podcasts Moore himself is an independent.


15 posted on 06/17/2008 6:35:47 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: KevinDavis
An we have to wait till NEXT YEAR to find out.....

Grrrrrrrr!

16 posted on 06/17/2008 6:36:56 PM PDT by Species8472 (Stupid people need stupid laws)
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To: marajade

Ditto, they seem to cover the full political spectrum through the characters, just like you would have with any random group of people that are forced together. I think they handle issue leanings very well.


17 posted on 06/17/2008 6:37:29 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Jagman

A reflection upon current times. Moore wasn’t making a political statement.


18 posted on 06/17/2008 6:37:55 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Um

What, are you channeling Obama or something?

if you listen to the podcasts Moore himself is an independent.

So? You said the show had no liberal leanings. Rawny, the head writer and developer disagrees.

19 posted on 06/17/2008 6:38:15 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: buccaneer81; marajade; All

But, I thought it was church they where near.. I could have sworn I saw a cross.


20 posted on 06/17/2008 6:38:24 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: KevinDavis; marajade

Are you fracking joking? The entire series is ADMITTEDLY a call to arms for the fracking Iraqi insurgency.


21 posted on 06/17/2008 6:38:47 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Species8472

Who is the last cylon and would its revelation be important now that they’re on earth?


22 posted on 06/17/2008 6:39:27 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: dangus

This entire series is a Rorschach test.


23 posted on 06/17/2008 6:39:53 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: marajade

>> Um if you listen to the podcasts Moore himself is an independent. <<

Yeah, so are Bernie Sanders, the CPUSA and all of Rush Limbaugh’s seminar callers.


24 posted on 06/17/2008 6:40:13 PM PDT by dangus
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To: marajade; All

Plus the fact Ron did mention the French Resistance did the same thing against the Nazis during WWII...


25 posted on 06/17/2008 6:40:20 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

During the original BG series, I was expecting at some point they would be getting close to Earth’s neighborhood, and the final scene of the final episode would show a glimpse of a certain starship named Enterprise


26 posted on 06/17/2008 6:40:24 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: TheWasteLand

Whatever. Its Moore’s show period.


27 posted on 06/17/2008 6:40:29 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: KevinDavis

It was a church. The Temple of Aurora.


28 posted on 06/17/2008 6:41:05 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: PapaBear3625; All

In the original Battlestar they showed the moon landing.


29 posted on 06/17/2008 6:41:47 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: marajade; All

The Temple of Aurora????


30 posted on 06/17/2008 6:42:20 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: marajade
Whatever. Its Moore’s show period.

So you recant? You admit the show leans left?

31 posted on 06/17/2008 6:42:40 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: KevinDavis

Its a TV show. Its for entertainment. Not everything is about politics.


32 posted on 06/17/2008 6:42:40 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: KevinDavis

Its in the book the President keeps reading.


33 posted on 06/17/2008 6:43:26 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade; All

I agree. I watch tv to be entertained not to be a preached at...


34 posted on 06/17/2008 6:44:14 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: KevinDavis

Hopefully, they won’t go into a New Caprica “re-deux” and appear some 15+ years in the future on Earth(?) with the kids ready to romp...


35 posted on 06/17/2008 6:44:39 PM PDT by mikrofon (SciFi BUMP)
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I could have sworn I saw a cross.

I saw it too. Early in the shot, looked like a stone cross. Made me think they had landed in Rome or Greece before I saw the bridge.

Gotta admit, it was genius (if true) to do this Brooklyn/WatchTower thing.

I wish I got paid to think this stuff up!

36 posted on 06/17/2008 6:45:05 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: KevinDavis

http://www.popcritics.com/2008/06/battlestar-galactica-recap-revelations-04x10/


37 posted on 06/17/2008 6:45:07 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
It was a church. The Temple of Aurora.

You don't buy the Brooklyn-WatchTower building scenario? Just thought it was cool.

38 posted on 06/17/2008 6:46:44 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: marajade; All

Then it could have be ruins of Atlantis...


39 posted on 06/17/2008 6:47:30 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: buccaneer81

Who knows with Moore. I can’t wait to get my hands on the season four dvds with the commentaries.

I mean the man smokes some odd natural indian tobacco from NW and drinks scotch.


40 posted on 06/17/2008 6:49:20 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

oops I meant NM


41 posted on 06/17/2008 6:49:47 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade
Who is the last cylon and would its revelation be important now that they’re on earth?

10 episodes left to answer that question - and to find the "13th Tribe"

42 posted on 06/17/2008 6:51:07 PM PDT by Species8472 (Stupid people need stupid laws)
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You also got to admit in how good the episode was when you are still talking about a week later...


43 posted on 06/17/2008 6:51:13 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Who is Obama's Puppet Master???)
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To: Species8472

I keep holding out hope they resurrected Crashdown and there’s one of him left and he’s in the last ten episodes.


44 posted on 06/17/2008 6:53:24 PM PDT by sabe@q.com (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: marajade

Just my theory.

I believe they are on Earth but they are not in the Promised Land. I think in the end all of the 12 models will need to be reunited and maybe somehow Earth will be “resurrected” or the Curse of Kobol will be lifted with the 12 models acting as the neo Lords of Kobol and what’s left of the fleet living with them in harmony. So I still think the final is important and I think D’anna will be killed so that RDM can continue dangling it like a carrot.

Here’s the Hybrids prophecy from Razor
At last, they’ve come for me. I feel their lives, their destinies spilling out before me. The denial of the one true path, played out on a world not their own, will end soon enough. Soon there will be four, glorious in awakening, struggling with the knowledge of their true selves, the pain of revelation bringing new clarity, and in the midst of confusion, he will find her. Enemies brought together by impossible longing, enemies now joined as one. The way forward at once unthinkable, yet inevitable. And the fifth, still in shadow, will claw toward the light, hungering for redemption that will only come in the howl of terrible suffering. I can see them all. The seven, now six, self-described machines who believe themselves without sin, but in time, it is sin that will consume them. They will know enmity, bitterness, the wrenching agony of the one splintering into the many, and then they will join the promised land, gathered on the wings of an angel. Not an end, but a beginning.

I don’t think that Kara is the final but I do think that she’s going to somehow unite the cylons and I think the human fleet may be decimated with only a few thousand left at the end of the series.

On a happier note I hope we get to see the beings from the Ship of Lights. There’s been some hinting that we will but I don’t trust RDM . I think he likes to tease TOS fans and unfortunately he has to drop storylines because the SCIFI channel won’t give up the bucks. It is interesting to note that in TOS when Starbuck is on the Ship of Lights he’s surrounded by 5 beings in white much like our final five. These being then bring Apollo back to life. In Crossroads we see that Starbuck’s viper is pristine (much like Apollo’s, Sheba’s, and Starbuck’s uniforms) They also return back to Galactica and know the way to Earth. Much like Starbuck.


45 posted on 06/17/2008 7:01:32 PM PDT by TrishaSC
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You might find this interesting...It keeps with the Brooklyn/WatchTower angle:

AURORA GRATA CATHEDRAL.; A GALA DAY FOR SCOTTISH RITE MASONS IN BROOKLYN. September 25, 1887, Wednesday

Page 16, 339 words

The Scottish Rite Masons of Brooklyn made a gala day of it yesterday in the dedication of Aurora Grata Cathedral, Bedford-avenue and Madison-street, to the uses of the order as a temple. [ END OF FIRST PARAGRAPH ]

46 posted on 06/17/2008 7:02:28 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: buccaneer81

I think it was both. The Original series had the underlying Mormon theology. I think RDM and the writers are just having fun with throwing in these Jehovah Witnesses references with the reimagined series. So yes it’s the Temple of Aurora but we the viewers can have a chuckle about it being the Watchtower building. Of course if the RTF consisted of 144,000 then we’d definitely know that we were on to something big!!


47 posted on 06/17/2008 7:05:32 PM PDT by TrishaSC
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To: TrishaSC

See my post # 46. I think we’ve nailed it!


48 posted on 06/17/2008 7:06:25 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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To: KevinDavis

I stopped watching after the show became Battlestar Iraq. Now it looks like the show has degenerated further— it is The Real World with mankind’s new Cylon friends, with a few nonsense identity crises thrown in.

Bah.

I *loved* this show for the first year and a half. Sad to see it come to this.


49 posted on 06/17/2008 7:12:24 PM PDT by JHBowden
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To: KevinDavis
A couple of months back I argued on another board about Chief and his kid. I was told that they've never stated that male Cylons can't father children by humans -- only that female Cylons can't get pregnant.

I called that horrible retconning, but I was actually shot down by the "If They Haven't Said It, You Don't Know It" Crowd.

50 posted on 06/17/2008 7:20:50 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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