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Cell-phone-driving ban takes effect July 1 in Washington (Washington State)
The Seattle Times ^ | June 23, 2008

Posted on 06/24/2008 12:45:17 PM PDT by Stoat

Cell-phone-driving ban takes effect July 1 in Washington

On July 1, the new law takes effect in Washington that bans driving while using a hand-held cell phone.

 
OLYMPIA, Wash. —

On July 1, the new law takes effect in Washington that bans driving while using a hand-held cell phone.

Drivers caught holding a mobile phone to their ear risk a $124 ticket. To talk on a phone drivers should use a handsfree headset or speaker phone. But, the law allows exceptions for people reporting an emergency or crime.

The violation is a so-called secondary offense. That means an officer must first stop the driver for some other violations, such as speeding; then the cell phone offense can be added to the ticket.

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It seems that we're about to see a spike in Bluetooth headset sales in Washington.

 


1 posted on 06/24/2008 12:45:18 PM PDT by Stoat
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To: Stoat

This is just the excuse I needed to get rid of my cell phone. It just sits in my car in case of an emergency and I never use it otherwise. Since I can no longer use it when I break down or in bad traffic, it is not worth keeping it.


2 posted on 06/24/2008 12:53:15 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Stoat

Yeah... then the next thing you know; blue tooth technology accelerates cell phone tumors by 50%.


3 posted on 06/24/2008 12:54:47 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Stoat
Cell-phone-driving ban takes effect July 1 in Washington

Same in Kalifornia.

What a koinkydink.

4 posted on 06/24/2008 1:03:46 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: microgood

I wish this would come to Minnesota. On my way to work yesterday morning I was almost t-boned by a woman on a cell phone who ran a red light. And afterwards she was mad at me!


5 posted on 06/24/2008 1:06:25 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: microgood
Since I can no longer use it when I break down or in bad traffic, it is not worth keeping it.

If you have a breakdown you're no longer in motion and so you can legally use the phone while sitting in your car in Washington, without any Bluetooth headset accessory.  But...I see that you're in Wyoming....is a similar ban about to be implemented there?

At any rate, I would urge consideration of a different cellphone plan if your interest is in having it 'only' for emergency use.  I bought a 'pay as you go' cellphone for Momma Stoat just so that she will always have one in the car.  If it's not used, the monthly charge works out to around $7.....a very small price to pay for the peace of mind knowing that she will be able to call for help if necessary.

6 posted on 06/24/2008 1:06:59 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

7 posted on 06/24/2008 1:07:45 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: CommieCutter
Yeah... then the next thing you know; blue tooth technology accelerates cell phone tumors by 50%.

LMAO

And if gents leave the phone in a belt holster when they answer a call on the headset, the transmission radiation will cause pelvic osteoporosis or testicular cancer instead of a brain tumor  :-)

Ladies are lucky....they can get a stylish lead-lined handbag to put their phones in  :-)

8 posted on 06/24/2008 1:15:40 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Parmenio
I wish this would come to Minnesota. On my way to work yesterday morning I was almost t-boned by a woman on a cell phone who ran a red light. And afterwards she was mad at me!

No one here in WA is under the delusion that this new law will prevent that -- everyone knows they will still get away with using the phone as long as they don't commit a primary offense -- and then the officer has to be there at just the right time to catch that. This is merely "we did something, we feel good now" type legislation.

9 posted on 06/24/2008 1:17:47 PM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurtureĀ™)
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To: Stoat
If you have a breakdown you're no longer in motion and so you can legally use the phone while sitting in your car in Washington, without any Bluetooth headset accessory. But...I see that you're in Wyoming....is a similar ban about to be implemented there?

Actually I am from Wyoming but currently live in Washington most of the time. Thanks for the information about not in motion, but I do not trust the state to honor the law since in this state ALL laws are about revenue generation and NONE are about safety.

I got two tickets for not wearing a seatbelt when it was not a primary offense even though that is the only reason I was pulled over. Think of a crack addict that needs a fix and you will understand how Washington state government thinks about money.

At any rate, I would urge consideration of a different cellphone plan if your interest is in having it 'only' for emergency use. I bought a 'pay as you go' cellphone for Momma Stoat just so that she will always have one in the car. If it's not used, the monthly charge works out to around $7.....a very small price to pay for the peace of mind knowing that she will be able to call for help if necessary.

Thanks for that information. I think I will pursue that.
10 posted on 06/24/2008 1:20:17 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Stoat
"The violation is a so-called secondary offense. That means an officer must first stop the driver for some other violations, such as speeding; then the cell phone offense can be added to the ticket.

Yep...mandatory seat belts started out the same way. Then it became a "primary offense." Now, the FedGov funds the national, "Click it, or ticket" campaign.

It won't be long, it will be illegal to talk to other people in your car or tune the radio.

11 posted on 06/24/2008 1:20:36 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: steve86
No one here in WA is under the delusion that this new law will prevent that -- everyone knows they will still get away with using the phone as long as they don't commit a primary offense -- and then the officer has to be there at just the right time to catch that. This is merely "we did something, we feel good now" type legislation.

It will not be a secondary law for long. They just do that to get it on the books and then convert it to a primary offense even though they swear on their mother's grave they will not. That is exactly what happened to our seat belt law.
12 posted on 06/24/2008 1:22:46 PM PDT by microgood
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To: steve86

I think there’s another purpose in addition to that. It establishes a possible insurance defense in the case of an accident.


13 posted on 06/24/2008 1:25:39 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: martin_fierro
Cell-phone-driving ban takes effect July 1 in Washington

Same in Kalifornia.

What a koinkydink.
 

The People's Republic of Washington is doing it's utmost to follow California, particularly the worst parts of hard-Left San Francisco, down into the turgid, roiling abyss of jackbooted Socialism.

We have spectacular scenery, but every Memorial Day I take a walk in my North Seattle neighborhood and I see fewer American flags on display.  This year, the only one I saw in a ten-block radius was the one at the stoat cave.

"sigh"


14 posted on 06/24/2008 1:25:52 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

You need to get out of Seattle and see the Eastside -
especially east of the Cascades.


15 posted on 06/24/2008 2:22:19 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Stoat
The violation is a so-called secondary offense.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

16 posted on 06/24/2008 2:22:28 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: rahbert
You need to get out of Seattle and see the Eastside -
especially east of the Cascades.

You're right of course....Eastern Washington is 'the sane part' of Washington State and I try to get there as much as I can.

I apologize for perhaps implying that every place in Washington is as bad as Seattle....this was sloppy writing on my part.  I was meaning to convey the fact that, unfortunately, the vast majority of legislation coming out of Olympia, which in large measure defines the law and therefore the public image for the rest of Washington, is usually indistinguishable from what pronouncements might come out of a Capitol Hill coffee shop.  Yes, there are isolated bunkers of normalcy in Western Washington and a vast expanse of sanity in Eastern Washington, but sadly Olympia appears to be unaware of this fact, and legislates accordingly.

I apologize for not being more clear when I posted earlier.

17 posted on 06/24/2008 2:54:14 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: antiRepublicrat
The violation is a so-called secondary offense.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Since you may find that after you drive past an officer with a cell phone at your ear that you're being pulled over for a 'primary'  infraction that you were completely unaware of having committed, and therefore are being cited for both that as well as the cellphone violation, I might suggest that a box of kleenex as well as a stylish Bluetooth headset might be appropriate items to add to your shopping list   :-)

18 posted on 06/24/2008 3:00:16 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat

The accident I got into involving my cell phone was when I wasn’t using it. I was on my way to open my brother-in-law’s store. The phone ran two different times. I thought it might be an emergency, so pulled off the freeway to find a parking lot to call back from. I was waiting on the off ramp and got rear ended. I wonder if I would have been safer if I had answered.


19 posted on 06/24/2008 3:04:55 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Joe 6-pack

A friend of mine told me that the number one distraction that causes accidents is tuning the radio. #2 eating. He told me these as I did them, of course. I think cell phone use was something like #4.


20 posted on 06/24/2008 3:08:49 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: steve86
everyone knows they will still get away with using the phone as long as they don't commit a primary offense

Be VERY careful. I just heard a WA. State Trooper on the radio talking to the host about different traffic situations mostly related to passing in the left lane. The subject changed to the new cell phone law and the Trooper gave a VERY LOADED hint that the primary offense they will use to pull you over in a lot of cases will be impeding traffic (holding up too many cars). He cited a study that said motorists typically drive slower while they are on their cell phone thus impeding traffic.

Here you have a good upstanding citizen trying their best to be safe and now will get pulled over because of the secondary offense.....Make enough laws and everyone will be a lawbreaker.....
21 posted on 06/24/2008 3:12:29 PM PDT by copaliscrossing (If stupidity were barrels of oil, we should start drilling the liberals heads right now!!!)
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To: HungarianGypsy
The accident I got into involving my cell phone was when I wasn’t using it. I was on my way to open my brother-in-law’s store. The phone ran two different times. I thought it might be an emergency, so pulled off the freeway to find a parking lot to call back from. I was waiting on the off ramp and got rear ended. I wonder if I would have been safer if I had answered.

I'm very sorry to hear that you had an accident, and I hope that you weren't injured. 

With the current gas price dynamics, you can probably pick up a nice shiny (and safe!) Hummer for a near-steal, and you could justify the extra gas expense by how much you're saving on hospital stays due to injuries suffered in tiny cars   :-)

"snicker"

 

22 posted on 06/24/2008 3:16:49 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: HungarianGypsy
"A friend of mine told me that the number one distraction that causes accidents is tuning the radio..."

Don't worry...I'm sure there's a government solution for all of them. Once you breath into your ignition lock intoxilyzer of your 55-mph speed governed car, and fasten the 10-point seat belt in your isolated driver's compartment where your wrists are manicled to the steering wheel, there will be no way you could risk losing your liberties by breaking the law.

23 posted on 06/24/2008 3:18:58 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Stoat
Add California to that July 1 deadline.
It's only a matter of time before it gets worse for the delusionals who think they can chew gum and walk at the same time --- better than anyone else.

Continuing research will prove adequately that whether they hold the phone or are hands-free, their impairment is practically the same; but the only ones that seem to notice are the drivers around them concentrating on --- ta-daaa--- their driving!

24 posted on 06/24/2008 3:24:14 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Stoat
Uhura never looked that good.
25 posted on 06/24/2008 3:26:11 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: Parmenio
They pass the laws, but don't enforce them. I live in NY and these freaks still mindless cruise along looking skyward as they yap on. People can't even navigate a freaking’ shopping cart in the market while jabbering away. They are always running into other carts and people too.
26 posted on 06/24/2008 3:28:34 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: copaliscrossing
He cited a study that said motorists typically drive slower while they are on their cell phone thus impeding traffic.

I commuted for an hour and a half each day for 8 years on Interstate 5 and saw the evolution of the problem first-hand.

Driving slower is but one symptom. Erratic speed changes is more common, and wandering the lane from side to side is the third.

It got such that by the time I stopped daily commute, I could identify active cell phone users 9 times out of 10 from 200 yds back.

27 posted on 06/24/2008 3:30:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (You're Government, it's not your money, and you never have to show a profit.)
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To: Stoat

Of course the law won’t work. It’s not the holding the phone to your ear that makes the accidents, it’s the having the brain concentrating on the conversation that does it. Some people just can’t multi-task.


28 posted on 06/24/2008 3:32:57 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: Stoat

I refuse to use a phone while driving. When I drive I am totally into driving, and not concerned or bothered by telephones.

I’ve told my clients the same, so they just leave a message...I always get back to them when it’s convenient and safe for me to do so.


29 posted on 06/24/2008 3:35:29 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Publius6961
Driving slower is but one symptom. Erratic speed changes is more common, and wandering the lane from side to side is the third.

I think the Troopers will have no problem finding a primary offense. What I am worried about are drivers that are doing perfectly fine in their lane at a steady speed and getting pulled over for a broken tail light or doing the speed limit but having 5 cars following you. On the other hand, there are way too many drivers that cannot drive while on the phone (I will not include a specific gender or race in my comments) and should be pulled over because there are probably a dozen or so primary offenses.
30 posted on 06/24/2008 3:38:58 PM PDT by copaliscrossing (If stupidity were barrels of oil, we should start drilling the liberals heads right now!!!)
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To: boogerbear
Of course the law won’t work. It’s not the holding the phone to your ear that makes the accidents, it’s the having the brain concentrating on the conversation that does it. Some people just can’t multi-task.

Multi-task is corporate BS term for do more, work harder, for less money. Much like the corporate BS term "team player".

Multi-tasking while driving will make you a team player with the dead.

31 posted on 06/24/2008 3:39:36 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: isrul
Uhura never looked that good.
 Uhura

I'll have to agree   :-)

I suppose that warping all over the space-time continuum perhaps doesn't do a lot for a lady's 'vivaciousness quotient', although Yeoman Rand always used to set the young stoat heart aflutter....

"sigh"

32 posted on 06/24/2008 3:40:30 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: Stoat
You are aware that she was (perhaps still is) a nymphomaniac? Not that I think that's bad. Especially in her case. Yum.
33 posted on 06/24/2008 3:44:02 PM PDT by isrul (Help make every day, "Disrespect a muzzie day.")
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To: dragnet2

I don’t think it’s BS, but I’m a natural born multi-tasker. I always have multiple things going, gaming while watching TV, reading and listening to music, working and FR. Always doing more than one thing at a time, keeps me awake.

Depends on what kind of vehicle you drive. Sticks are complicated enough to be right on the border of needing to multi-task just to drive. Motorcycles and semis are past the line. Which is why I drive a stick, when I have to drive an automatic I get a serious case of wandering brain, no left foot action, no shifting, just makes driving too boring. That’s when I do risk becoming a team player with the dead. No cellphone though, don’t like phones. I COULD phone while driving, heck I’ve shifted while hanging a corner with a cig in one hand and a soda in my lap and didn’t spill burn wreck or slip. But I don’t like phones, use them as little as possible, and just plain don’t need one with me at all times.


34 posted on 06/24/2008 3:50:08 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear
I’m a natural born multi-tasker.

Hey thats fine when not driving.

If you were on a firing line, concentrating, shooting for accuracy, would you multi-task at the same time? No you wouldn't.

Same while driving. A vehicle is a deadly weapon, laying waste to many daily.

35 posted on 06/24/2008 3:57:19 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Didn’t read after the first sentence huh?


36 posted on 06/24/2008 3:58:02 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear

Maybe not, what specifically are you referring to?


37 posted on 06/24/2008 3:59:01 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Well first off the fact that I don’t even have a cellphone so there’s no possibility that I’d be using one while driving. And second the fact that if I can’t multi-task I get bored and lose concentration. If I was on the firing line I’d be listening to music, if not physically then in my head, I’m always listening to music, either out in the real world or in my “internal” radio station, keeps the brain in rhythm. That’s how natural multi-taskers are, there’s always some part of the brain doing something not related to the task at hand, contemplating dinner, figuring out what to do this weekend, listening to tunes, always something.


38 posted on 06/24/2008 4:06:07 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear
Depends on what kind of vehicle you drive.

No it doesn't. Deadly weapons like firearms and vehicles, are not the venues to be multi-tasking.

Gezz I hate that term.

39 posted on 06/24/2008 4:07:29 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

And did you bother to read past the first sentence of the second paragraph? You’re reacting to content that only exists in your head. Time to stop assuming and start reading. Maybe you’re doing a little too much multi-tasking.


40 posted on 06/24/2008 4:12:00 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear

Look slick, if you want to multi-task while driving down the highway, be my guest!!


41 posted on 06/24/2008 4:13:06 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

Look slick maybe you should READ WHAT WAS WRITTEN before getting your panties in a bunch. What’s apparently making you mad is 100% a figment of YOUR IMAGINATION.

Don’t get mad at me for your hallucinations SLICK.


42 posted on 06/24/2008 4:16:38 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear

Hmmm, you seem angry...Maybe ya ought to turn down that internal music in your head.


43 posted on 06/24/2008 4:21:29 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: Joe 6-pack
It won't be long, it will be illegal to talk to other people in your car

If a way could be devised to muzzle back-seat drivers, I might just sign on to such a proposal  :-)

PASSENGER; "Stoat, you're going the wrong way"

STOAT:: "Umm...actually, this is the right way, but perhaps not the exact route you're accustomed to."

PASSENGER: "Then it's the wrong way!"  (passenger starts to cry)

STOAT: "Okay then, I'm sorry, my fault.  Which route would you like to take?  We can go any way you like."

PASSENGER: "I don't remember the names of the streets!  I just know what the houses look like along the way!"

STOAT: "Okay then, would you like to drive around until we see a house or landmark that you recognize, and then go from there?"

PASSENGER: "No! That's a waste of gas!" (sobbing)

STOAT: (banging head against steering wheel)

44 posted on 06/24/2008 4:22:01 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: dragnet2

Let’s see some jackass comes on and starts yelling at me because he ass-u-med I talk on a phone while driving even though I explicitly said TWICE that I don’t even have a cellphone, he even insults me in the process, and then he wonders why I might seem a bit annoyed. Maybe you should turn down the a$$hole that is your head.


45 posted on 06/24/2008 4:24:22 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: Stoat
I might suggest that a box of kleenex as well as a stylish Bluetooth headset might be appropriate items to add to your shopping list

I don't do cell phones in cars, not even hands-free. Studies show that hands-free is better than holding it, but not by much. Apparently it's the redirected attention that makes you dangerous, not holding the phone in itself.

46 posted on 06/24/2008 4:25:44 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat
Apparently it's the redirected attention that makes you dangerous, not holding the phone in itself.
 

I'm sure you're right....makes sense to me.

After the accident statistics remain about the same with headset users, the politicians will embark upon a new "crisis session" to make headsets and hands-free telephony illegal as well  :-)

47 posted on 06/24/2008 4:29:53 PM PDT by Stoat (Rice / Coulter 2012: Smart Ladies for a Strong America)
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To: boogerbear
Let’s see some jackass comes on and starts yelling at me because he ass-u-med I talk on a phone while driving

I never said you did. You're the one that stated or implied, "It depends on the vehicle" when referring to multi-tasking.

I merely stated that one who multi-tasks while driving will end up being a team player with the dead.

Perhaps you should review what was said here. And please, try and relax.

48 posted on 06/24/2008 4:49:16 PM PDT by dragnet2
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To: dragnet2

You went off on me for NOTHING. You ranted on me about the evils of cellphones while driving even though I said I couldn’t. Because you couldn’t be bother to ACTUALLY read what was ACTUALLY written. And you know it, heck you even admitted you didn’t read the whole thing.

Had you read the rest of that paragraph you’d have found I was talking about how driving different types of vehicles is INNATELY multi-tasking. But nooooooooo, you couldn’t be bothered to actually read what was written, that would get in the way of your rant.

I’m relaxed, I’d be more relaxed if I didn’t have to put up with assumers that are too lazy to read what’s written and start ranting based entirely on the contents of their head. But in spite of dorks like you I’m relaxed. Perhaps you should read before you write.


49 posted on 06/24/2008 5:01:02 PM PDT by boogerbear
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To: boogerbear
This is what I told you originally: Multi-tasking while driving will make you a team player with the dead.

Ya note it says nothing about cell phones? Here is how you responded:

Depends on what kind of vehicle you drive.

Again, if you want to multi-task while you drive, I could care less. You can drive and do what ever you like.

I was talking about how driving different types of vehicles is INNATELY multi-tasking.

You're suggesting that driving a manual 4 speed is multi-tasking while driving?

You are joking right?

50 posted on 06/24/2008 5:38:51 PM PDT by dragnet2
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