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(Movie Review) "WALL-E" ["This kid flick perhaps the most cynical & darkest Disney movie ever]
PajamaMedia ^ | June 27, 2008 | Kyle Smith

Posted on 06/27/2008 6:17:45 AM PDT by yankeedame

WALL-E: A Gloom-E Satire

June 27, 2008 - by Kyle Smith

WALL-E is a cornucopia of filth, dust, rust and roaches, but if I wanted all of that I’d go back to my first New York City apartment. Compared to other kid flicks (or adult flicks, or even Ingmar Bergman flicks), this is one Gloom-E piece of work.

WALL-E is the last (sort of) living creature on earth, a bedraggled and lonesome robot who spends his days in a befouled metropolis that makes the one in I Am Legend look like Oz.

The earth has been made uninhabitable by junk and pollution, its skies as brown as a bad day in Beijing, but at least apocalypse provides a good living: the job for which WALL-E is programmed is to gather up rubbish, compact it into cubes, and stack those as high as skyscrapers.

As the trashopolis rises around him, he spends his spare time arranging his favorite salvaged items (a Rubik’s Cube, a spork) and watching an old videotape (jury-rigged to play through an iPod) of Hello, Dolly. WALL-E’s living quarters amount to a tool shed of despair, although by the standards of New York City circa 2008, it’s merely a fixer-upper with lots of potential.

A more advanced flying probe-bot sent to Earth for reasons unknown has feminine curves and lovely blue eyes that leave WALL-E smitten, though except for her habit of laser-zapping any suspicious object she could be one of those white bullet-shaped trash canisters you’d see at a snack bar.

When she and WALL-E start to beep sweet nothings at each other, she has a higher-pitched tone than he does and says her name is Eva, so WALL-E is confirmed to be a heterobot.

The two of them wind up at a space station that houses the remnants of the human race. At this point the film, previously dingy and dark, goes matte black.

The earthlings — or maybe Americans, as none of them have any other kind of accent — are brain-dead blobs perpetually stuffed to the gills with entertainment. They never leave their spotless flying barcaloungers — and never could, since their bones have shrunk to useless twigs inside their Shrek-like masses.

They float through their troglodyte lives as unquestioning subjects of the master corporation (the same one that ruined the Earth) that houses them, distracts them and feeds them. All foods are made to be sucked down like milkshakes for maximum convenience.

It’s hard to see how a Disney-certified happy ending can result from this, and the answer is it really can’t.

This is perhaps the most cynical and darkest big-budget Disney film ever, and an artistic gamble on the scale of Fantasia, which initially flopped despite critical acclaim. Pixar is now acting like Disney’s senior partner.

Perhaps never before has any corporation spent so much money on insulting its customers — WALL-E is expected to be the year’s [2] most heavily promoted film.

The meatball humans in WALL-E are like customers passively being served up a fake existence at the Magic Kingdom (which readily provides wheelchairs for not merely the afflicted but also the obese and the simply lazy), snorfling up the latest wows in an entirely artificial setting where every beverage and hotel room brings profits to the same corporation.

And Disney paved over a few thousand acres of Florida wetlands to build Walt Disney World in the first place.

How paying customers will react to being told they’re porky slobs, or are headed in that direction (WALL-E is set 800 years in the future) will depend on how closely the people in the audience ignore the people on screen and concentrate on WALL-E and Eva.

The robots are cute but limited by a lack of dialogue, and their storylines essentially consist of a lot of Buster Keaton-style slapstick as a variety of evil machines try to steal from them a small plant from Earth that they brought with them as evidence that the planet is inhabitable again.

That poses a threat to the corporation that is generating so much profit from its captive audience on the space station.

WALL-E isn’t much of a character, though, and the conflicts in the film are not only slow to develop but have hazily-defined stakes.

Regardless of what happens with the plant, regardless of whether a HAL 9000-like computer named Otto and the corporation he represents succeed in convincing the puppet captain of the space ship that there is no reason to return to Earth, the planet is essentially beyond hope.

The repeated allusions to 2001 (including some musical cues which are now trite) reminded me of how much more human Stanley Kubrick’s film was; Dave Bowman, unlike the space station captain in WALL-E, was resourceful and dynamic, not a blubbery idiot, and his adventure was leading to a mighty payoff, not a possible trip back to an apoca-landfill.

What will the humans do to rebuild on Earth if they go back to it anyway? They are about as skilled as crash-test dummies.

Those who go to WALL-E expecting a mechanical E.T. should be prepared instead to inhale the fumes of an almost sulfurous satire.

WALL-E

Directed by Andrew Stanton

Starring: Ben Burtt, Elissa Knight, Jeff Garlin

2.5 stars/ 4

97 minutes/Rated G


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: disney; hollywood; moviereview; walle

1 posted on 06/27/2008 6:17:45 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
Look for little plastic cubes of rubbish soon in your kid's Happy Meals. Collect them all! Six different colors! Then throw them away.
2 posted on 06/27/2008 6:26:00 AM PDT by 4yearlurker ("Put Watts into 'em! Give 'em Watts boys!" -Rev. James Caldwell-1775. A Patriot.)
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To: yankeedame

I have seen a lot of promos for this one, and I gotta say, I was not looking forward to it. For one thing, the fembot looks like it was designed for easy CGI and makes no physical sense, whatsoever. Pixar is great when it represents real things in an unreal world. This character just does not look in any way real.

The other impression I got was that it was unremittingly dark. This is borne out by this review. I will see it anyway, of course. Little choice in the matter, you know...


3 posted on 06/27/2008 6:56:21 AM PDT by gridlock (Al Gore wants YOU to live like the Flintstones while HE lives like the Jetsons.)
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To: yankeedame

From Christianity Today:

Moring: OK, but why were the humans on the space station all fat and riding around in their hovering lounge chairs?

Stanton (director): I wasn’t trying to make the humans into fat, lazy consumers, but to make humanity appear to be completely consumed by everything that can distract you—to the point where they lost connection with each other, even though they’re right next to each other. The reason I made them look like big babies was because a NASA guy told me that they haven’t yet simulated gravity perfectly for long-term residency in space. And if they don’t get it just right, atrophy kicks in and you begin to lose your muscle tone—you just turn into a blob of goo. For a while, that’s what I did with the humans in the movie; they were just big blobs of Jell-O. But it was so bizarre, we had to pull it back. So I said, well, let’s just make them look like big babies. That’s where all that came from.

I wasn’t trying to make some sort of mean-spirited comment on consumerism or today’s society. I was going with just the logic of what would happen if you were in a perpetual vacation with no real purpose in life. So I went with the idea that we’d become sort of big babies with no reason to grow up. I definitely saw humanity as victims of this system that they were in. They were just big babies that needed to stand on their own two feet.

The last thing I’m going to do is try to make a message movie!

(I don’t think I believe him.)


4 posted on 06/27/2008 6:57:03 AM PDT by llmc1
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To: Lil'freeper

Ugh


5 posted on 06/27/2008 7:02:46 AM PDT by big'ol_freeper ("Preach the Gospel always, and when necessary use words". ~ St. Francis of Assisi)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Me? I’m going back to see Iron Man.


6 posted on 06/27/2008 7:07:24 AM PDT by freepertoo
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To: yankeedame

Went to see Kung Foo Panda (which was pretty good) and saw the previews to this. It didn’t seem like it was that good but I told the kids we could come back and see it (personally love going to the drive-in myself). We’ll see.


7 posted on 06/27/2008 7:13:05 AM PDT by stevio (Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
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To: llmc1
I was going with just the logic of what would happen if you were in a perpetual vacation with no real purpose in life. So I went with the idea that we’d become sort of big babies with no reason to grow up. I definitely saw humanity as victims of this system that they were in. They were just big babies that needed to stand on their own two feet.

Not a bad message if you are going to give one to kids. "Don't take the easy way, it just makes you weak and useless."

The Incredibles was one of the most Conservative movies of the last decade, so I think I'll wait to pass judgement on this same group of filmmakers.

8 posted on 06/27/2008 7:15:32 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: yankeedame
As a counter-point, Rotten Tomatoes has an aggregate rating of 98% (87 positive out of 89 reviews) on this movie.
9 posted on 06/27/2008 7:15:36 AM PDT by kevkrom (2-D fantasy artists wanted: http://faxcelestis.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=213)
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To: yankeedame

Did they at least save money by recycling the robot from Short Circuit? (#5 if memory serves...)


10 posted on 06/27/2008 7:16:47 AM PDT by CharlieOK1 (Don't tax me, bro!)
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To: CharlieOK1

I thought this was about the Red Sox mascot.


11 posted on 06/27/2008 7:20:05 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

I think what bothered me about the director’s statement was “I saw humanity as victims...” Looking at history, in general, people were/are problem solvers.

But I agree with your points. We are going to see Wall-E today and we’ll judge for ourselves.


12 posted on 06/27/2008 7:29:11 AM PDT by llmc1
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To: yankeedame

http://decentfilms.com/sections/reviews/wall-e.html

This reviewer liked it well enough, and I usually find him pretty reliable....


13 posted on 06/27/2008 7:47:24 AM PDT by Eepsy (12-26-2008 +1)
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To: yankeedame
They float through their troglodyte lives as unquestioning subjects of the master corporation (the same one that ruined the Earth) that houses them, distracts them and feeds them.

When The State provides for us all, things will be better.

14 posted on 06/27/2008 9:26:12 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: llmc1

I enjoyed the movie. I was concerned when I watched the first scene, but the movie is mostly a love story with triumph over adversity. The animation was beautiful.


15 posted on 06/27/2008 12:31:46 PM PDT by llmc1
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To: llmc1

Never bet against Pixar. And I assume that John Ratzenberger made his usual Pixar appearance in this one.


16 posted on 06/27/2008 12:35:05 PM PDT by dfwgator ( This tag blank until football season.)
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To: yankeedame

Curious.

On KVI this morning they had the movie reviewer on, and he reviewed this movie. He always approaches his reviews from a Conservative and Christian point of view. He ~loved~ the movie and thought it was one of the better movies of the year. I’ve found myself agreeing with him about previous movies.

So... I’ll reserve judgment until later. I don’t know if I would see this one in the theater anyway. Usually I wait for the DVD. But maybe.


17 posted on 06/27/2008 12:43:06 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: dfwgator

Yes, he’s there. It’s a cute, but pretty small, role.


18 posted on 06/27/2008 12:54:21 PM PDT by llmc1
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To: yankeedame

Considering that PIXAR was at least at one time radically pro-abortion (they wouldn’t lease prints of their short films to theaters in some states that held the wrong politics on abortion), it would seem that the death of all people is a goal they actually could see as a positive thing.


19 posted on 06/27/2008 3:06:30 PM PDT by weegee
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To: 4yearlurker

I’ve got to have a laugh about all of the “greenie weenie” communist kiddies.

Here they are pro-bike, pro-vegan (it’s better for the environment, you see), pro-abortion, anti-war for oil, pro—war for Palestine/Darfur/Zimbabwe.

But in the midst of all of this, they are also bringing back the spirit of hording records (made with plastics from “fossil” fuels) and have brought us a vinyl toy collecting boom. The anti-capitalists are actually quite materialistic and consumer minded.

They are unique just like everybody else.

And they waste oil. Just like those guys with the leaf blowers who would be more effective if they’d just use a friggin’ broom.


20 posted on 06/27/2008 3:10:55 PM PDT by weegee
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To: martin_fierro
When The State provides for us all, things will be better.

Freedom is Slavery - Big Brother.

21 posted on 06/27/2008 3:12:29 PM PDT by weegee
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To: weegee
....And they waste oil. Just like those guys with the leaf blowers who would be more effective if they’d just use a friggin’ broom.

Not even close. What do you have? A yard about as big as a postage stamp? Either that or you're retired and have time to get out there and waste your time. Gas blower....best yard tool ever for cleanup and closin' out! Screw the neighbors...

22 posted on 06/27/2008 3:15:41 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: CharlieOK1

I thought it was Short Circuit II when I saw the preview.


23 posted on 06/27/2008 3:32:21 PM PDT by Crawdad (If you're in a fair fight, your tactics suck.)
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To: yankeedame

I seen the trailers and this is the stupidest, corniest, cheesy, 80s-Spielbergesque garbage I have ever seen. I mean, seriously, the movie reminds me of that stupid 80s movie “Short Circuit”, pure 100% cheese. I was hoping Disney would do a sequel to “Cars” or “The Incredibles.”


24 posted on 06/27/2008 3:55:52 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (BARACK OBAMA WILL SAVE US! HE HAS RISEN!!)
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To: llmc1
I enjoyed the movie. I was concerned when I watched the first scene, but the movie is mostly a love story with triumph over adversity. The animation was beautiful.

I loved it, too. Hope I'm not spoiling anyone, but people were the GOOD guys. The writers took the time to place a few scenes showing that the humans weren't really automatons without feelings...just VERY distracted. Possible, considering how much time I personally spend on line...! ;-)

25 posted on 06/27/2008 4:29:17 PM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: llmc1

I saw it this morning with my son. I thought it was a good movie. Why? Well told, well animated, and a good story. I won’t spoil it, but there is an age-old story of redemption in there, as well.


26 posted on 06/27/2008 4:45:39 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS
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To: Kieri; llmc1
I want to thank both of you for your review of this movie. We're probably going to take the kiddies to the theater this weekend, and we have been debating between WallE and Kung Foo Panda. I am a huge Pixar fan, haven't been disappointed yet, and it sounds like this one will keep up the winning streak.

Note to all you freepers who are panning this movie because it reminds you of some old Speilberg flick: PLEASE be clear to the rest of us whether or not you have actually seen the movie, or if you are basing your opinions on trailers. I'm not trying to be snotty. I really do trust the judgement of most freepers when it comes to movies--that they have actually seen.

27 posted on 06/27/2008 4:53:20 PM PDT by grellis (By order of the Ingham County Sheriff this tag has been seized for nonpayment of taxes)
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To: grellis

I’m glad you found my comments helpful, and I hope you and your family enjoy the movie.

I remember “Short Circuit” pretty well. Johnny 5 was a military robot who was struck by lightning and developed emotions. He wanted to learn (”need imput!”) and didn’t want to hurt anything or anyone. Wall-E’s design is VERY similar to Johnny 5 — goggle eyes, two treads, arms, voice — but that’s where the similarities end. Wall-E is more like a salvage R2D2 and uses his laser for cutting metal to make compacting it easier. In Wall-E’s case, his binocular eyes are what conveys his emotions — Johnny 5 had an actual voice and vocabulary. He’s beat up, scratched, dinged, dented and has replaced his own parts repeatedly, whereas Johnny 5 was state of the military art.

To be honest, I loved Eve more. A cool chick robot with a sleek design, laser weapon and a temper! Her emotions translate so well, especially when she’s sent for repair. I was really laughing over that scene.

Don’t take it too seriously and have a lot of fun!


28 posted on 06/27/2008 5:13:58 PM PDT by Kieri (Midwest Snark Claw & Feather Club Founder)
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To: grellis

You are welcome. It’s kind of a simple story, so I can’t say too much without spoiling it. I hope you and your family enjoy it. My sons did - and they’re 20 and 15 years old. : )


29 posted on 06/27/2008 5:19:53 PM PDT by llmc1
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To: Kieri

Yup. The first thing my son did after seeing the movie was look online to see if there is an Eve action figure that shoots.


30 posted on 06/27/2008 5:39:13 PM PDT by llmc1
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To: martin_fierro
When The State provides for us all, things will be better.

I saw Wall·E Today, and that's exactly what came to my mind. The humans on the space ship are what most would become in an Obama presidency.

31 posted on 06/28/2008 5:33:48 PM PDT by COBOL2Java ("It's not my fault if McCain loses - it's his own damn fault!" - Mark Levin)
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To: yankeedame
What will the humans do to rebuild on Earth if they go back to it anyway? They are about as skilled as crash-test dummies.

I'm guessing this reviewer didn't bother to hang around for the end credits...

32 posted on 06/28/2008 5:37:22 PM PDT by COBOL2Java ("It's not my fault if McCain loses - it's his own damn fault!" - Mark Levin)
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To: grellis
We're probably going to take the kiddies to the theater this weekend, and we have been debating between WallE and Kung Foo Panda.

Try to get to see both. They're equally entertaining, with good stories to boot.

33 posted on 06/28/2008 5:42:17 PM PDT by COBOL2Java ("It's not my fault if McCain loses - it's his own damn fault!" - Mark Levin)
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To: Kieri
A cool chick robot with a sleek design, laser weapon and a temper!

I told my wife that Eve personified femininity, in every way!

34 posted on 06/28/2008 5:45:30 PM PDT by COBOL2Java ("It's not my fault if McCain loses - it's his own damn fault!" - Mark Levin)
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To: COBOL2Java
I'm guessing this reviewer didn't bother to hang around for the end credits...

I would bet that the review gets revised once somebody who's seen the whole movie lets the reviewer know that they look like idiots for saying that. Pixar beats you over the head with the fact that the humans end up doing okay once they stop being so lazy (notice they showed a skinny kid fishing at the end).

The wife and I saw it and we are...well let's just say we have grandchildren. We enjoyed it (and really enjoyed the 'Presto' short at the beginning).

The three messages I got (I wasn't focusing on messages and just enjoying the movie, but some were kind of obvious): They aren't fans of Wal-Mart (and I'm not a fan of Wal-Mart either - I don't like buying tons of cheap Chinese-made crap).

They think we'll get fatter and lazier the more things are easier and cheaper - I agree with this - I look at people that would rather buy McDonald's or other fast food just about every day rather than make a decent (healthy) meal and bring it to work or to sit down at night and eat and these people (and their kids) seem to be getting fatter all the time. I go to other parts of the world - Japan, Europe, etc., and you get smaller portions for meals and getting outdoors and exercising is more commonplace and as a result, you don't see near the fat people that you do here (sorry if I'm offending anybody, but I notice the difference when I visit other countries).

Finally, they beat you over the head with the biblical "EVE represents the dove that comes to Noah's Ark" bit.
35 posted on 06/28/2008 10:28:28 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I saw it today. You couldn’t be more wrong. This is ‘Brave New World’ style satire that has more in common with 2001 than Toy Story. For better or worse. It’s a huge gamble for a film like this which I’m guessing will bore most young kids.


36 posted on 06/29/2008 2:25:02 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges
Finally, they beat you over the head with the biblical "EVE represents the dove that comes to Noah's Ark" bit.

I guess they do, but I didn't make the connection until you spelled it out.

Great movie, incidentally. Wall-E and EVE are two of the most entertaining characters I've seen in just about any movie ever.

Overall, not as good as "The Incredibles" (what is?) but easily up there with "Finding Nemo."

37 posted on 06/29/2008 3:08:40 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Personal Methane Reclamation: Break wind for energy independence!)
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To: llmc1; Anitius Severinus Boethius; ImaGraftedBranch

I do. I saw the same thing. Granted, the obvious green propaganda was ‘bleh’, but I saw an interesting message. SPOILERS AHEAD.

The robots = big government, willing to do whatever it takes (i.e. stealing the plant from EVE and WALL-E) to keep the people subservient to them.

The humans = people on welfare, reduced to a slovenly, obese state where there’s no incentive to do anything because everything’s taken care of. Why waste the effort?

Then along comes WALL-E, and people see there are other things. Case in point; when two people finally start seeing things differently, their suits morph from Democrat Blue to Republican Red. ;)

True, the whole ‘green’ angle was annoying, but I actually found a redeeming message of individualism and conservatism underneath it all.


38 posted on 06/29/2008 3:16:08 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Look at all the candidates. Choose who you think is best. Choose wisely in 2008.)
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To: Future Snake Eater

It’s a lot more ambitious than either. I’m surprised it got made. You don’t see big budget Big Studio Art films too often.


39 posted on 06/29/2008 3:37:36 PM PDT by Borges
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To: yankeedame

My 3 grand kids just loved this movie. This is going to be a huge summer hit. Look past the “Green” message and just enjoy a good G rated movie for both kids and adults.


40 posted on 06/30/2008 7:10:13 AM PDT by Nokia
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To: grellis

So G, did you see it?

We did. Loved it. This writer’s just trying ‘way too hard to be Different.


41 posted on 06/30/2008 12:42:39 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
Not yet. We were expecting rain all weekend but it ended up being gorgeous, so we did lots of outdoorsy things. Three-day weekend coming up, I'd like to see it rain or shine.

Thanks for the input!

42 posted on 06/30/2008 1:55:03 PM PDT by grellis (By order of the Ingham County Sheriff this tag has been seized for nonpayment of taxes)
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To: BibChr; yankeedame; Nokia; Borges

‘Wall-E’ Trailer Makes Woman Cry, Every Time

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2040496/posts


43 posted on 07/03/2008 4:58:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Funny, I saw the same movie and came away with an entirely different reaction. I hated it.

Where you saw victims of government largesse, I saw fat lazy slobs, thoroughly unconnected to one another, lost in their own little worlds of advertising and consumerism. The evil corporation was only too happy to cash in. But the humans weren’t portrayed as the victims....Earth was. Even the space outside Earth was totally littered with debris...put there by humans, of course.

I can see your perspective. It just wasn’t how I saw the movie. My take was very similar to the reviewer’s.

OTH, Kung Fu Panda surprised me immensely. The beautiful animation alone makes it worth seeing.


44 posted on 07/05/2008 5:23:22 AM PDT by Timeout
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