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Cave Men Loved To Sing
Yahoo News/Live Science ^ | 7-3-2008 | Heather Whipps

Posted on 07/03/2008 3:58:32 PM PDT by blam

Cave Men Loved to Sing

Heather Whipps
Special to LiveScience
LiveScience.com
Thu Jul 3, 1:01 AM ET

Ancient hunters painted the sections of their cave dwellings where singing, humming and music sounded best, a new study suggests.

Analyzing the famous, ochre-splashed cave walls of France, the most densely painted areas were also those with the best acoustics, the scientists found. Humming into some bends in the wall even produced sounds mimicking the animals painted there.

The Upper Paleolithic people responsible for the paintings had likely fine-tuned their hearing to recognize the sound qualities in certain parts of the cave and chose to do their artwork there as a kind of landmark, perhaps as part of a singing ritual, said researcher Iegor Reznikoff, a specialist in ancient music at the University of Paris X in Nanterre.

Reznikoff will present his findings at the upcoming Acoustical Society of America meeting in Paris, France.

Cave dwellers used echolocation

People who lived in Europe during the Upper Paleolithic - from 10,000 to 40,000 years ago - spent a lot of time in caves, often living there or at least camping out for short periods. "They were hunters in cold conditions," Reznikoff told LiveScience.

With only dull light available from a torch, which couldn't be carried into very narrow passages, the ancient hunters had to use their voices like sonar to explore the crooks and crannies of a newfound cave, Reznikoff explained.

"When acting in a cave in conditions similar to prehistoric ones ... the surroundings a few meters ahead are almost completely dark," he said, adding that "since sound reaches much farther than reduced light, especially in irregular surroundings, the only possibility and security is to explore the cave with the voice and its echoing effects."

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: ancient; cave; godsgravesglyphs; men; sing

1 posted on 07/03/2008 3:58:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Lemme guess.....some archaeologist has found a neolithic Walkman?


2 posted on 07/03/2008 4:00:18 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

I guess we've been demoted to chat.

That cost them my $30.00 per month donation.

Further harrassment will cost them my presence on this site.

3 posted on 07/03/2008 4:01:27 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
use their voices like sonar to explore the crooks and crannies of a newfound cave

When you pay obscene salaries to hyper-educated idiots with total job security for years of mental masturbation, this is the kind of drivel you get for your money.

4 posted on 07/03/2008 4:08:24 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: blam

5 posted on 07/03/2008 4:11:08 PM PDT by labette ( Doctor of Thinkology)
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To: blam
Imagine the average cave man at home
Listening to his stereo
Sometimes he'd get up and dance
He'd move something like this "dance dance"
He'd get tired of dancing alone and look in the mirror
And say "gotta find a woman"
"Gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman, gotta find a woman"
6 posted on 07/03/2008 4:11:30 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: labette

gmta


7 posted on 07/03/2008 4:12:31 PM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: steveo

My dad (RIP 1983) grew up in Washington, DC, and belonged to a social club there called the Cave Dwellers.


8 posted on 07/03/2008 4:15:11 PM PDT by caddie
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To: labette

woA! That ain’t no Wilma from Bedrock!


9 posted on 07/03/2008 4:36:10 PM PDT by NativeSon (off the Rez without a pass...)
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To: steveo
Author is "Heather Whipps".

Sounds a bit like a nom de cine.

10 posted on 07/03/2008 4:38:14 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: blam
They were quite the musicians...
11 posted on 07/03/2008 4:59:53 PM PDT by JRios1968 ("If you go over a cliff with all flags flying, you are still going over a cliff"--Ronald Reagan)
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To: blam

Captain Caveman did.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD36ZhpHPpE


12 posted on 07/03/2008 5:06:03 PM PDT by Siberian-psycho (An oppressed class which did not try to possess arms, would deserve to be treated as slaves." Lenin)
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

With only dull light available from a torch, which couldn’t be carried into very narrow passages, the ancient hunters had to use their voices like sonar to explore the crooks and crannies of a newfound cave, Reznikoff explained.

“When acting in a cave in conditions similar to prehistoric ones ... the surroundings a few meters ahead are almost completely dark,” he said, adding that “since sound reaches much farther than reduced light, especially in irregular surroundings, the only possibility and security is to explore the cave with the voice and its echoing effects.”

Caveman: I be calling you...ooh..ooh..ooohh ooh ooh.(With apologies to the Jeanette McDonald and the Indian love call)

CaveBear: GRRROOOWR.


13 posted on 07/03/2008 5:37:02 PM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: wildbill
"(With apologies to the Jeanette McDonald and the Indian love call)"

This one?

14 posted on 07/03/2008 5:43:00 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

mostly rock music I bet.


15 posted on 07/03/2008 5:51:37 PM PDT by Waco
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To: blam

That’s the one! How in the world did you find that? Isn’t the net amazing?


16 posted on 07/04/2008 5:34:22 AM PDT by wildbill ( FR---changing history by erasing it from memory.)
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To: wildbill
"Isn’t the net amazing?"

Unbelieveable.

17 posted on 07/04/2008 7:06:36 AM PDT by blam
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To: Waco
"mostly rock music I bet."

Yup. You go to the concert with the instruments you have.

18 posted on 07/04/2008 7:10:36 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

[singing] let’s give ‘em somethin’ to chat about...

Neanderthals Sang Like Sopranos
ABC Science News | 3-15-2005 | Jennifer Viegas
Posted on 03/15/2005 5:34:39 PM PST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1363597/posts

Hominids’ Cave Rave-Ups May Link Music And Speech
Reuters (UK) | 5-31-2006 | Michael Roddy
Posted on 05/31/2006 10:52:10 AM PDT by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1641293/posts


19 posted on 07/04/2008 9:42:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: blam; wildbill; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...

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Thanks Blam. Thanks wb for the, uh, humor. ;')

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.
GGG managers are Blam, StayAt HomeMother, and Ernest_at_the_Beach
 

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20 posted on 07/04/2008 9:42:37 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: blam
ochre-splashed cave walls of France

Orch-et-straw... orchestra... yes, Holmes we have it! The symphonies that were conducted by caveman must have been incredible! In fact, the Beatles even played the Cavern with their long hair music and Ringo Starred in a caveman movie or two... wondrous.

21 posted on 07/04/2008 10:38:21 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: blam

Ohh! Don’t you dare go away! I know I can be a pill sometimes, but this GGG list you and Sunken run is the most outstanding feature of this here forum gizmo.

Well, your GGG list and RedRover’s organizing of resistance against the cultural destroyers and lovers of the enemy who keep vomiting up witch hunts against my fellow Marines.

Also, Sandman’s daily compilations of of daily news briefs on the current war efforts gets a solid good mention.

But, you guys are definitely in the top three.


22 posted on 07/04/2008 1:18:49 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Correction:

I meant SandRat, of course. But, I’m a retard, everyone knows that already.


23 posted on 07/04/2008 1:20:31 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: blam

If you go, please let us know where you move to. GGG is the best list on the site.


24 posted on 07/04/2008 9:18:23 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: Grimmy
I'd also like to nominate: My apologies to any I've omitted.
25 posted on 07/04/2008 10:43:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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High notes of the singing Neanderthals
http://www.timesonline.co.uk | 01/30/05 | Jonathan Leake
Posted on 01/30/2005 6:25:53 PM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1332270/posts


26 posted on 07/04/2008 10:45:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: steveo; labette
COME HEEEERRREE! LOL.

I've known a few Bertha Butts in my time.

27 posted on 07/04/2008 10:48:12 PM PDT by Clemenza (You Shoot Me in a Dream, You Better Wake Up and Apologize)
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To: SunkenCiv

Yeah. Ok. All them’s good too. Sorry I missed em in my confuddled state of panic, earlier.

But, you still can’t go away.


28 posted on 07/04/2008 10:57:43 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

:’) I don’t think it’ll come to that. But you realize of course, I’m basically lazy, and blam does the bulk of the posting of GGG topics...


29 posted on 07/04/2008 11:35:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh, so it’s blam I need to be nice to, not you. Good to know, thanks.

I hate it when I miss spend my brown nosing energy on the wrong boss :)


30 posted on 07/05/2008 1:05:39 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

Hey, y’never know, blam *could* leave, and then...

;’)


31 posted on 07/06/2008 10:29:26 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: blam

You do good work. Hang in there.


32 posted on 07/06/2008 10:31:13 AM PDT by RightWhale (I will veto each and every beer)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well heck. If blam left it all to you, I’d have to relearn how to behave. So far I haven’t gotten booted from this ping list, so I must be within bounds of tolerable.

If you took over, that could change. I only have so much adaptability points in my char build (RPG geek speek) and I don’t want to have to spend them all in one place.


33 posted on 07/06/2008 12:40:36 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy

;’)


34 posted on 07/06/2008 7:43:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Yoohoo!!!

Any sabertooth cats at home????


35 posted on 07/07/2008 8:17:48 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: Grimmy; blam
this GGG list you and Sunken run is the most outstanding feature of this here forum gizmo

What you said.

36 posted on 07/07/2008 9:33:54 AM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: colorado tanker; SunkenCiv

Thanks.


37 posted on 07/07/2008 11:26:12 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Well, Blam, if you leave, I’ll probably hit the road, too—yours are almost the only articles I read anymore, as it is very difficult and tiresome to sift through all of the *religious war* postings that seem to have taken over in the past year. I just go straight to Pings, read what you guys have posted, and a few others, and sneak back out without having to sift through what seesm like hundreds of daily *my Christianity is better than yours* posts. Am I wrong, or is this taking over around here? /rant off


38 posted on 07/10/2008 4:56:56 AM PDT by Rutabega (European 'intellectualism' has NOTHING on America's kick-a$$ism!)
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To: Rutabega; colorado tanker

Thanks!


39 posted on 07/10/2008 8:09:08 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: blam
I bet the Unfrozen Caveman liked to sing. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
40 posted on 07/10/2008 8:23:51 AM PDT by peggybac (Tolerance is the virtue of believing in nothing)
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