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Researchers blame HPV for rise in throat cancer [Veterans of swinging sixties may pay for free love]
Chicago Tribune ^ | June 8, 2008 | Jeremy Manier

Posted on 07/04/2008 12:17:12 PM PDT by Gondring

FOR five gruelling months, Carol Kanga suffered through treatment for a life-threatening case of throat cancer linked to an unlikely source: a sexually transmitted viral infection.

Unable to swallow food or water during chemotherapy and radiation treatment, Kanga was fed through a stomach tube.

"The radiation basically burns the skin off the outside and inside of your throat," said Kanga, 52. "It's like there's a fire inside your neck."

Kanga's treatment was successful, but the virus that struck her is causing increasing concern among some researchers who think it is causing a small-scale epidemic of throat cancer.

That virus, scientists have proved only in the past two years, is human papillomavirus, or HPV, the virus behind most cases of cervical cancer.

The HPV infections probably took root decades ago as the baby boomers were reaching adulthood, and only now are spurring a rise in throat cancer cases, mostly among men and women in their 50s.

No one understands the precise reason for the increase, though experts suspect it is linked to changes in sexual practices that emerged in the 1960s and '70s. For example, oral sex is a known risk factor for HPV-related throat cancers, and studies have shown that people who have come of age since the 1950s are more likely to have engaged in oral sex than those who were born earlier.

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The virus targets a specific portion of the upper throat called the oropharynx, which includes the tonsils and base of the tongue. [...]

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: cancer; freelove; health; hpv; hpvvaccine; moralabsolutes; promiscuity; thesixties; throatcancer; vd
Of course, for years, the CDC has downplayed HPV--IMO, because condoms didn't prevent transmission and they hated to admit that.

Now that the HOV vaccine is out, they love to talk about it, but then there's this discovery!

1 posted on 07/04/2008 12:17:12 PM PDT by Gondring
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To: Gondring

When will we read that it is more common in queers or will we ever see the truth?


2 posted on 07/04/2008 12:22:20 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: Gondring

Is there a vaccine for this nasty? I’ve heard of vaccination for females, but I’ve wondered why males are left out. Any specific reasons?


3 posted on 07/04/2008 12:25:32 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: Gondring; neverdem

Thanks for the ping to the article on herpes and brain cancer. I had seen it earlier, though- I’m on neverdem’s ping list.


4 posted on 07/04/2008 12:29:31 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: CarrotAndStick
I don't know, but when I worked a Roche Labs, now known as Lab Corp back in 1990, they told us that HPV didn't cause cancer in males. Only small flat warts on their ..... So that's a good question as to if males get the throat cancer or not.
5 posted on 07/04/2008 12:31:31 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: B4Ranch

Good question. I’ve heard that homosexual men are more prone to various anal and rectal related problems, but that tends to get covered up. There are a number of types of infections they tend to get, not just AIDS and HIV. But these others don’t get talked about much at all.


6 posted on 07/04/2008 12:35:28 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: GloriaJane; CarrotAndStick
I don't know, but when I worked a Roche Labs, now known as Lab Corp back in 1990, they told us that HPV didn't cause cancer in males. Only small flat warts on their .....

And they also thought the same about cervical cancer way back when. They now know that HPV can lead to anal and penile cancer. Though the efficacy of the vaccines is unknown, some men are getting vaccinated "off-label."

Note that the "cancer vaccines" that they push are actually HPV vaccines, since without the HPV women don't get cervical cancer (other than a very few exceptions). So this vaccine wouldn't help for the throat cancer of Baby Boomers...since they are already infected with the HPV.

And note that nearly half of women who used condoms still caught HPV...and there are many strains. It's easy to get confused between them and their effects--the current vaccines prevent only a few strains.

Note, I am not a doctor. (but I can play one! ;-)

7 posted on 07/04/2008 12:47:18 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: CarrotAndStick
The costs of getting a vaccine or medication approved are ridiculous...the FDA is out of control. Targeting women only was a good cost-saving measure, since HPV-related cancer rates are low for men. Besides, if infected men keep passing it on to women, there's a constant market for it. (Not entirely facetious there)

It's interesting to note that Herpevac, the vaccine for HSV, is not effective for men. Not sure what that might mean for the HPV vaccines.

8 posted on 07/04/2008 12:53:00 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

Can this be transmitted both ways in heterosexuals? I mean ... hypothetically ... she had HPV ... guy did her ... she did guy... guy gets HPV ... she can get throat cancer? ... guy can get throat cancer? Good grief.


9 posted on 07/04/2008 12:55:18 PM PDT by LiberConservative ("Typical" White Guy)
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To: Gondring

"Note, I am not a doctor. (but I can play one! ;-)"

You did a very good job. LOL But you know all this just makes one wonder how many other cancers are caused by viral infections.

10 posted on 07/04/2008 1:02:05 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: LiberConservative

A poster up the way on this thread said it something about homosexual men being the big sufferers.

My first thought was woman who give oral sex and female prostitutes who probably do allot of oral sex.

IMO it cant be a one group of sexual pref. cancer.


11 posted on 07/04/2008 1:06:17 PM PDT by Global2010 (OKIE DOKIE)
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To: Gondring
I'm suprised a major MSM outlet like The Chicago Tribune would mention
even the possibility that the liberated sex lives of
The Sixties and Seventies could lead to deadly outcomes.
12 posted on 07/04/2008 1:14:37 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Gondring; informavoracious; larose; RJR_fan; Prospero; Conservative Vermont Vet; ...
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13 posted on 07/04/2008 1:20:36 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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And this will only increase.

Thank you Bill Clinton.


14 posted on 07/04/2008 1:33:21 PM PDT by It's me
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To: It's me

Ping!!


15 posted on 07/04/2008 1:57:04 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: CarrotAndStick

Thanks for the ping.


16 posted on 07/04/2008 1:59:29 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: VOA
I'm suprised a major MSM outlet like The Chicago Tribune would mention even the possibility that the liberated sex lives of The Sixties and Seventies could lead to deadly outcomes.

The bracketed part of the headline actually came from another version on this article, but it seemed too good to pass up.

17 posted on 07/04/2008 2:15:49 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: VOA

Hmmm...

Doesn’t look good for all those cunning linguist experts from that era!


18 posted on 07/04/2008 2:16:58 PM PDT by JDoutrider (Obama= Not Hope & Change! He brings Hype & Chains!)
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To: CarrotAndStick; Gondring
GARDASIL® Questions and Answers
19 posted on 07/04/2008 2:30:44 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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To: neverdem

Merck is going for approval for men, but that won’t help those already infected.


20 posted on 07/04/2008 2:35:04 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: GloriaJane
But you know all this just makes one wonder how many other cancers are caused by viral infections.

I think you're on the right track. I think we're not done with finding these links.

21 posted on 07/04/2008 2:36:42 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Gondring

It must suck to get HPV. (ta-doop-chish!)


22 posted on 07/04/2008 3:45:17 PM PDT by GOPyouth (Happy 4th!)
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To: B4Ranch

Now doing a Lewinsky can kill you - but it may take a couple decades.
And clearly oral sex is NOT safe.


23 posted on 07/04/2008 4:21:30 PM PDT by tbw2 ("Sirat: Through the Fires of Hell" by Tamara Wilhite - on amazon.com)
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To: B4Ranch
When will we read that it is more common in queers or will we ever see the truth?

My guess is that it's probably extremely rare in homosexual men, since HPV is a virus that infects women, though men can carry it from one woman to another.

Mark

24 posted on 07/04/2008 5:34:17 PM PDT by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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To: MarkL

You would think that this would be a very common disease amongst hookers.


25 posted on 07/04/2008 5:59:21 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: CarrotAndStick

lawyers and the damn FDA


26 posted on 07/04/2008 6:24:48 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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To: B4Ranch
Surprising as it may be, back in the mid-80's, a street cop I knew told me that he was seeing the beginning of this in the hookers he knew on the street. He had a pretty good rapport with a lot he had arrested over the years.
Several were telling him that they had been diagnosed with various throat problem that the Drs' had no idea what they were looking at. At that time I guess there was an explosion of new bugs hitting the street. Coupled with the then exploding 'crack whore' syndrome which was rising at that time it was a "fertile" breeding ground for those bugs and their fast mutating forms.
Some had even been diagnosed with throat cancer and other than the usual STDs there was no linking reason.
He told me he used tell this to the johns he picked up and watch their reactions....needless to say, he had a rather weird sense of humor.

Seeing this thread brought him and his story to mind.
27 posted on 07/04/2008 8:41:21 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: Tainan

Go out in the rain and you’ll get wet, or so it’s said.


28 posted on 07/04/2008 8:52:02 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch
And remember..."Be careful where you put that thing."
29 posted on 07/04/2008 8:54:06 PM PDT by Tainan (Talk is cheap. Silence is golden. All I got is brass...lotsa brass.)
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To: neverdem; Gondring

Interesting, thanks!

From the link:

Can males use Gardasil?

Gardasil is not approved for use in males, but the manufacturer currently has a study underway to see if it is safe and effective for them. Once the study is complete and submitted to FDA, the agency will review the data and decide whether to approve Gardasil for males.


30 posted on 07/04/2008 9:14:15 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: LiberConservative
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31 posted on 07/04/2008 11:44:55 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Given such dismal choices, I guess I'll vote for the old guy.)
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To: GloriaJane
...this just makes one wonder how many other cancers are caused by viral infections.

And autoimmune diseases and on and on.

32 posted on 07/04/2008 11:52:37 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: CarrotAndStick
Thanks for the ping to the article on herpes and brain cancer.

Not exactly true. The herpes you are thinking of is in the same family as CMV but they are not the same virus. CMV is very common and in fact infects most people but it rarely causes illness. Most people have been exposed to CMV by the time they reach adult hood. CMV, Chicken pox, mono, and Herpes I (mouth) and Herpes II (genital) are all in the same family. That other story/headline was highly misleading.
33 posted on 07/05/2008 12:09:55 PM PDT by socialismisinsidious ( The socialist income tax system turns US citizens into beggars or quitters!)
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To: Gondring; GloriaJane; CarrotAndStick

The information on HPV is growing. There’s a link to lung cancer in non-smokers, anal cancer (the gays are pushing for us to begin to do anal pap smears on gay men), and throat cancers in men and women.

There’s no much penile cancer at all in the US, GloriaJane. That is probably what you heard. It’s believed that the high incidence of circumcision, that leads to the development of different sort of cells exposed, is the reason.

That’s probably also the reason that there’s less oral cancer than might be expected: the mouth is set up to protect us from infections (at least better than the vagina).


34 posted on 07/06/2008 6:30:47 AM PDT by hocndoc (http://www.LifeEthics.org (I have a mustard seed and I'm not afraid to use it.))
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To: hocndoc
Thanks for the info. Very informative
35 posted on 07/07/2008 8:39:44 AM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: Gondring
Now that the HPV vaccine is out, they love to talk about it, but then there's this discovery!

It's been known that men can contract throat cancer and testicular cancer from HPV. But it was downplayed so that government could politicize the HPV vaccines as a "women's issue" (uterine cancer).

36 posted on 11/17/2009 2:07:21 PM PST by a fool in paradise (I refuse to "reduce my carbon footprint" all while Lenin remains in an airconditioned shrine)
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