Don't install garage doors yourself.
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Posted on 07/12/2008 3:39:52 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
I need to know the percentage efficiency difference between an insulation R-value of 9 and 13.
Putting an insulated garage door in and want to know what the extra buys me in terms of efficiency.
And yes, I did do a pretty good web search. So feel free to post links and mock me. :)
Probably not. :) should be fun though
Where do you live? If you were in Seattle, it wouldn’t make much of a difference. Nome, maybe a lot of difference. Texas? Carport.
Atleast I know what I’m in for... ;)
I've dug several wells, but never turned one out. Is that like comin' out of the closet?
7500’ in the NM mountains. Can get to -15 and plenty o’ wind.
Maybe you can install a heat pipe to ManBearPig's house. He'll never notice the difference.
What”s the R value of non breathing RATS/RINOs? Im doing a bit of remodeling around the ol casa.
R-9 is 9/13ths of R-13...seriously.
I’d go with the higher R factor. I live in Seattle, never seen -15.
Interesting, is there a formula you are familiar with?
Thanks
If you are in Seattle any thing with R is bad.
If your garage door is rated “R” nobody under the age of 18 is allowed to look at it unless accompanied by an adult or legal guardian.
I hope this helps.
Trade you freezing temps for some rain.
Ceilings in the Northern climes require R-50 or so. 2x6 walls (code in the north) hold R-19 fiberglass batts, 2x4 walls hold R-11 of same material
mickey mouse cups now this.
The ratio of the numbers allow an honest comparison of differing materials. Styrofoam, for example, provides about R-10 per inch of thickness.
Just for that you’re going on pissant’s ping list. ;)
When dealing with any of the aforementioned materials, it is the care given at the joints which provides the most efficiency.
Go for the highest R-value you can AFFORD. Do a little at a time, and your savings will add up over time.
I live in a 1906 3-story American 4-square Colonial. The thing leaked heat like there was no tomorrow, but over 15 years we’ve added insulation, better windows and got in the habit of turning things OFF and DOWN when we weren’t home. I also had the oven on today to bake a quiche for breakfast. Since then, I have also baked a cake, muffins, bacon, and brats. Got it all done in one day and most at the same time. Saves a LOT on natural gas.
We also went on a “budget plan” years ago for both natural gas and electric. We pay a little each month, versus having HUGE heating bills in the winter. We also have some months where we don’t pay a dime. (That’s coming up right now. Usually between August and December we don’t have ANY utility bills. Wa-Hoo!)
Works like a charm for the household Bottom Line.
Were their names Hansel and Gretel?
I just didn’t have the motivation to deal with kelvin square meters per watt (K·m²/W), a cold beer will do that to ya.
Now that I have answers should I hit “abuse” or take my beating? :)
Gosh I just love Freepers. In all honesty, I'm reading this to see if I can learn anything.
Thanks great elder FReeper (10 days - sheesh!) ;)
Pronounced, “Braaahts,” smarty-pants, LOL!
http://www.johnsonville.com/home.html
If that link doesn’t make you drool...you’re either dead or a brain-addled, card-carrying member of PETA, LOL! :)
Slim, When I lived in Alaska, our garage door had what I would guess, the highest R value. They work. At temps reaching -56, my garage would stay at a comfortable 65.
Get the highest you can afford.
By definition a newbie is anyone who signed up after November 24, 2000.
Sorry, but it’s not like I make this stuff up.
I'm sure there is and it probably has something to do with the time it takes for X number of BTU's to raise a specified insulated space 1 degree Celsius, but I have no idea what that would be, but thankfully, the ratio's tell me all I need to know. The higher the R value the better.
We recently built an earth-sheltered home and separate shop with R-50 ICF's (insulated concrete forms) with a closed loop geothermal heating and cooling system. We heat and cool 3500 sq ft for under 700/year.
It’s a 12 year old house, but the garage has always been a weak spot.
Wisconsin... brrrr.... Have a buddy in Kenosha.
I’ve been lookin for a good pirate video to help explain the RRRgh value but alas I’ve had to walk the plank.
Seriously though I’d imagine the weather stripping around the door is more important than the R value of the door itself.
The conversion factor is 1 ft²·°F·h/Btu ≈ 0.1761 K·m²/W, or 1 K·m²/W ≈ 5.67446 ft²·°F·h/Btu
Yes, that’s right, it is proportional.
...that’s in Wisconsin, by the way.
This is America. Speak English!!!
Ooops, forgot to add a math challenged smiley face to post #38. I am in awe of you.
Had a good mix of fixins’.
I think I got a few converts from the Bar-B-Que crowd down here in the Carolinas.
Great, now Obama will send us all to re-education camps because I want to insulate my garage.
I live just north of Anchorage, Alaska, my wails are minimum R-19 or R-23 (whichever is on sale) PLUS I have a layer or blueboard on the exterior a minimum of one inch and on the north side of the house is two inches thick, and I have even applied another 1” layer of foam board to the inside of the walls, altogether my wall are about 10” thick, I have seen a reduction of my heating bills big time.
But thats just me, go further north and some people have walls two feet thick, especially places that get down around -70F.
Once someone has a brat, they’re hooked. :)
Tonight we’re having Johnsonville Italian Sausages, Cole Slaw and ‘dressed up’ canned baked beans. I add brown sugar, a squirt of yellow mustard, a handful of chopped sweet onion, some crumbled bacon because I have leftovers from breakfast, and a dash of Worchestershire sauce; my recipe isn’t copyrighted...yet..so help yourself! ;)
However, I would point out that even R13 is not that great; and, you should also evaluate the area for any leaks, which can kill your efforts at saving money on heating bills. Most houses are built for R19 or higher walls, and that is in a temperate zone area like NJ or PA.
Long story short, get the best you can afford, it will eventually pay off, since neither oil, electric, or natural gas is getting any cheaper.
Don't install garage doors yourself.
do not ask me how I know this
Except Raineer Beer! Or, what we called Vitamin R in the old days.
As a friend of mine and Eakers your already insulated from insults........
Spend the extra cash.
Nah, way too many hills around here. When we get an inch of snow, people panic and the bumpers get smashed.
Yeah, I know. I'm a FIB (or I used to be). I worked with quite a few displaced Wisconsites. I even know the proper context of the word "bubbler".
If that link doesn’t make you drool...you’re either dead or a brain-addled, card-carrying member of PETA, LOL! :)
They actually sell those pieces of... Well, pig stuff around here in CT. I don't care for "braaahts" in any case. I am a burger kind of guy.
Big, thick 85% ground beef still mooing in the center with a fat slice of onion and tomato with yellow mustard and American cheese.
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