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Posted on 07/16/2008 7:36:48 AM PDT by fings

Obnoxious cats laughed at us when dog leash law fever spread throughout this country’s cities, but now we canines are the ones chuckling as the first kitty leash law shot comes across the bow. If it passes, cats can say goodbye to freelance pooping and hello to being watched while doing their business.

(Howard Feiner is so annoyed with the cat droppings in his yard, he has logged the kitties’ leavings and put flags up to mark the spots. He has done this for a couple of reasons.

He’s in court with his neighbor...

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KEYWORDS: animalrights; cats; dogs; laws; leash
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1 posted on 07/16/2008 7:36:51 AM PDT by fings
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To: fings

On the “plus” side...

A law like this MAY have prevented that African lion from running rampant in Colorado yesterday.


2 posted on 07/16/2008 7:38:56 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: fings
Howard Feiner is so annoyed with the cat droppings in his yard, he has logged the kitties’ leavings and put flags up to mark the spots.

This guy needs to get a hobby, or to get laid, or something....

3 posted on 07/16/2008 7:40:51 AM PDT by steve-b (The "intelligent design" hoax is not merely anti-science; it is anti-civilization. --John Derbyshire)
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To: fings

We have a cow leash law here in Alabama.


4 posted on 07/16/2008 7:41:07 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running. And FREE LAZAMATAZ)
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To: fings
I get a kick out of the audacity of cat owners who get upset when their free range kitties wind up missing or dead.
5 posted on 07/16/2008 7:43:49 AM PDT by lormand ("The Planet is fine, the people are $%#ed up" - George Carlin)
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To: fings

Adlai Stevenson was a liberal, but he got one thing right:

Famous Cat Bill Veto STATE OF ILLINOIS EXECUTIVE DEPARTMENT SPRINGFIELD, April 23, 1949.

To the Honorable, the Members of the Senate of the Sixth-sixth General Assembly:

I herewith return, without my approval, Senate Bill No. 93, entitled, “An Act to Provide Protection to Insectivorous Birds by Restraining Cats.” This is the so-called “Cat Bill.” I veto and withhold my approval from this Bill for the following reasons:

It would impose fines on owners or keepers who permitted their cats to run at large off their premises. It would permit any person to capture or call upon the police to pick up and imprison, cats at large. It would permit the use of traps. The bill would have statewide application— on farms, in villages, and in metropolitan centers.

This legislation has been introduced in the past several sessions of the Legislature, and it has, over the years, been the source of much comment— not all of which has been in a serious vein. It may be that the General Assembly has now seen fit to refer it to one who can view it with a fresh outlook. Whatever the reasons for passage at this session, I cannot believe there is a widespread public demand for this law or that it could, as a practical matter, be enforced.

Furthermore, I cannot agree that it should be the declared public policy of Illinois that a cat visiting a neighbor’s yard or crossing the highway is a public nuisance. It is in the nature of cats to do a certain amount of unescorted roaming. Many live with their owners in apartments or other restricted premises, and I doubt if we want to make their every brief foray an opportunity for a small game hunt by zealous citizens— with traps or otherwise. I am afraid this Bill could only create discord, recrimination and enmity. Also consider the owner’s dilemma: To escort a cat abroad on a leash is against the nature of the cat, and to permit it to venture forth for exercise unattended into a night of new dangers is against the nature of the owner. Moreover, cats perform useful service, particularly in rural areas, in combating rodents— work they necessarily perform alone and without regard for property lines.

We are all interested in protecting certain varieties of birds. That cats destroy some birds, I well know, but I believe this legislation would further but little the worthy cause to which its proponents give such unselfish effort. The problem of cat versus bird is as old as time. If we attempt to resolve it by legislation who knows but what we may be called upon to take sides as well in the age old problems of dog versus cat, bird versus bird, or even bird versus worm. In my opinion, the State of Illinois and its local governing bodies already have enough to do without trying to control feline delinquency.

For these reasons, and not because I love birds the less or cats the more, I veto and withhold my approval from Senate Bill No. 93.

Respectfully, ADLAI E. STEVENSON, Governor

Veto Messages of Adlai E. Stevenson, Governor of Illinois, on Senate and House Bills Passed by the 66th General Assembly of Illinois. Springfield: State of Illinois, 1949.

(pulled from Wikiquote)


6 posted on 07/16/2008 7:45:52 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: steve-b
Howard Feiner is so annoyed with the cat droppings in his yard, he has logged the kitties’ leavings and put flags up to mark the spots.

Howard also wants "you kids" to "get the heck off my lawn", "turn down that Jigaboo music!" and "for God's sake, pull up your pants!"

7 posted on 07/16/2008 7:46:37 AM PDT by 50sDad (OBAMA: In your heart you know he's Wright.)
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To: lormand
I get a kick out of the audacity of cat owners who get upset when their free range kitties wind up missing or dead.

Well, here's why I don't TOTALLY blame them for being upset. The State has fostered a situation (through animal cruelty laws) that allowed pet owners to develop an unreasonable expectation of the State's protection of wayward critters.

If instead, a property owner had all options available to him, from doing nothing to notifying the pet owner to snuffing Fluffy, then you would probably have more polite pet owners, and property owners would probably feel LESS of a repressed urge to snuff Fluffy.
8 posted on 07/16/2008 7:48:39 AM PDT by beezdotcom (...posting in constant fear of Matthew 12:36,37...)
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To: steve-b

That’s exactly what I was thinking.


9 posted on 07/16/2008 7:49:25 AM PDT by mnehrling
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To: steve-b

I’m voting for “this guy needs to get laid!”...geez....


10 posted on 07/16/2008 7:50:12 AM PDT by Clintons Are White Trash (Lynn Stewart, Helen Thomas, Rosie ODonnell, Maureen Dowd - The Axis of Ugly)
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To: lormand

I love cats, have several and foster them for rescue organizations and nothing frosts me more when people have a free range cat. It’s like they’re too lazy to use a litter box. Sure, cats want to play outside, so do dogs, it doesn’t mean we should let them.


11 posted on 07/16/2008 7:58:27 AM PDT by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: beezdotcom
I know a guy who knows a guy who "took care" of 3 feral cats that were allowed free access by the cat's owners to litter his backyard with the feathers of various backyard birds that visited his feeders.
12 posted on 07/16/2008 7:59:01 AM PDT by lormand ("The Planet is fine, the people are $%#ed up" - George Carlin)
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To: fings

I admit I have a “free range kitty”. But my neighbors seem to like him. My next door neighbors, who would Never have a “dirty pet” in their fastidious home, get to have a cat by proxy. He visits.

He also is a great wandering exterminator. Yes, he brought me a bird once. But he brings me a mouse or rat every other day. Yesterday he dropped off a giant rat on my porch.


13 posted on 07/16/2008 8:05:39 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Lx
I love animals like anyone else, but cats are severely destructive to wildlife if allowed free access to it. People have accepted the fact that dogs can't run free, so it's time for them to accept the same when it comes to cats.

The people (and especially the cat) in this story are lucky that this guy took the steps that he did instead of using other methods of eliminating the crisis.

14 posted on 07/16/2008 8:08:00 AM PDT by lormand ("The Planet is fine, the people are $%#ed up" - George Carlin)
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To: WayneS
A law like this MAY have prevented that African lion from running rampant in Colorado yesterday.

Update, the search was called off. There is no "evidence" it was a lion (not MY words, those of the Sheriff's dept)
15 posted on 07/16/2008 8:11:32 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Clintons Are White Trash

I’m voting for the guy needing to get a pellet gun and a shovel.


16 posted on 07/16/2008 8:11:34 AM PDT by woollyone (100 rounds per week totals over 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
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To: lormand
I know a guy who knows a guy who "took care" of 3 feral cats that were allowed free access by the cat's owners to litter his backyard with the feathers of various backyard birds that visited his feeders

Yeah, but don't get me wrong. I'm not a big advocate of having the neighbor kill our pet cats. I just think he ultimately has that right if they are on his property. I would obviously prefer that he take a non-lethal route - and he would probably not be wise to advertise it if he DOES plan to take the lethal route.
17 posted on 07/16/2008 8:11:44 AM PDT by beezdotcom (...posting in constant fear of Matthew 12:36,37...)
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To: woollyone
I’m voting for the guy needing to get a pellet gun and a shovel.

No, it's too late for that...he made the mistake of advertising his contempt for the animal, and now he'll be blamed for ANYTHING that happens to it.
18 posted on 07/16/2008 8:13:25 AM PDT by beezdotcom (...posting in constant fear of Matthew 12:36,37...)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

Sorry.. to FINISH my thought and post...

There was a picture, albeit grainy and hard to make out, but it sure looks like a lion to a lot of us. Also, there were tracks that were found that are 6” or more in width.

My daughter’s neighbor actually SAW the animal and he said it was a lion... so who knows?


19 posted on 07/16/2008 8:15:59 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: beezdotcom

of course they’d have to find kitty.

Shovels work in all kinds of soils in counties far and wide.

“...huh?...I dunno...I haven’t seen it...I wuz thankful the neighbor finally got manners, cuz I figgered the neighbor took that kitty inside, a few days back while I wuz outta town...camping.”


20 posted on 07/16/2008 8:19:10 AM PDT by woollyone (100 rounds per week totals over 5000 rounds in a year. Just thought you'd want to know.)
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To: fings
>Obnoxious cats laughed at us when dog leash law fever spread throughout this country’s cities, but now we canines are the ones chuckling ...

Didn't Son of Sam
think one of his neighbor's dogs
told him what to do?

21 posted on 07/16/2008 8:23:29 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: fings

Our kitty loves to go outdoors. We didn’t want to find her in pancake form in the street, so we trained her to a leash. Now she jumps on the chair and paws at her harness when she wants to go out.


22 posted on 07/16/2008 8:25:53 AM PDT by knittnmom (...surrounded by reality!)
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To: woollyone
of course they’d have to find kitty.

You would think so...but in this day and age, I wouldn't want to take that chance.
23 posted on 07/16/2008 8:29:36 AM PDT by beezdotcom (...posting in constant fear of Matthew 12:36,37...)
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To: fings; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; etabeta; ...
*snicker*


24 posted on 07/16/2008 8:51:44 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~ [Shipping and handling charges may apply.])
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To: lormand

Yet...I’ll bet you feed the birds....LOL. God has a special place for those of you who purposely harm an animal out of hate.


25 posted on 07/16/2008 9:02:38 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=9F215xnf4M6Mv89d6mi5)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Good for a laugh! LOL =^..^=


26 posted on 07/16/2008 9:09:59 AM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation, with 4 cats in my life as proof. =^..^==^..^=)
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To: Fawn
"Yet...I’ll bet you feed the birds....LOL. God has a special place for those of you who purposely harm an animal out of hate."

If someone has a bird feeder, it is OK for a neighbor's cat to use it as it's own private hunting lease?

When a person defends his property against predatory animals, is it done out of hate?

Time is running out on the notion that your cat can have free access to anything it wants. It's not just common sense, but it is very neighborly to keep your cat where it belongs, on your property. It is also best for the health of the cat, since you know that no judicious action will be taken against it if it isn't killing other peoples pets on other people's property.

27 posted on 07/16/2008 9:10:13 AM PDT by lormand ("The Planet is fine, the people are $%#ed up" - George Carlin)
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To: Rick.Donaldson

There aren’t all that many house cats running around with 6” or greater paws.

Mountain lions, either, for that matter.


28 posted on 07/16/2008 9:13:43 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: steve-b

I wonder if he has hired a surveyor to precisely map the GIS coordinates of the flags.


29 posted on 07/16/2008 9:15:33 AM PDT by WayneS (What the hell is wrong with these people?)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Catz on leashes crack me up.


30 posted on 07/16/2008 9:17:10 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Conspiracy Guy

I’ve heard some women are into that sort of thing.


31 posted on 07/16/2008 9:19:34 AM PDT by listenhillary (There's more people in the wagon, than there is pushin')
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To: fings

Im all for a cat leash law as long as I get the bandaid concession!


32 posted on 07/16/2008 9:21:32 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the light of the world)
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To: Daffynition

Don’t tase me, bro!


33 posted on 07/16/2008 9:22:06 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~ [Shipping and handling charges may apply.])
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To: Mom MD

Don’t forget to buy stock in companies that make broad-spectrum antibiotics.


34 posted on 07/16/2008 9:23:06 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~ [Shipping and handling charges may apply.])
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To: lormand

My 3 kitties have never been outdoors

We have mountain lion, coyote, owls to name a few that roam our neighborhood. I always sigh when another missing cat sign goes up on the mailboxes. Newbies to this area never learn.

Of course that does not mean my viking kitties would not take on the coyotes if given half a chance. I keep them in to protect the coyote population! ;-)


35 posted on 07/16/2008 9:23:32 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the light of the world)
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To: WayneS

I dunno about mtn lions. The one’s I’ve seen get pretty big. They can have good sized paws, and prints I’ve seen are close to that size.

Thing is that picture does not have a tail like an African Lion. It has a tail like a puma. And the animal is way to “fuzzy”....


36 posted on 07/16/2008 9:25:12 AM PDT by Rick.Donaldson (http://www.transasianaxis.com - Please visit for latest on DPRK/Russia/China/et al.)
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To: Mom MD
The coyotes have already surrendered.


37 posted on 07/16/2008 9:35:55 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~ [Shipping and handling charges may apply.])
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To: Slings and Arrows

LOL


38 posted on 07/16/2008 9:36:58 AM PDT by Mom MD (Jesus is the light of the world)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Classic.


39 posted on 07/16/2008 9:39:30 AM PDT by dighton
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To: lormand

Birds carry over 60 diseases yet you cry over a cat poopin in your yard....SMART! There are tons of homeless cats that are looking for a kind person to feed them and maybe give them shelter. I know how you feel about that....just kill them right? Heartless. How many cats have you killed?


40 posted on 07/16/2008 9:40:47 AM PDT by Fawn (http://www.news3online.com/index.php?code=9F215xnf4M6Mv89d6mi5)
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To: lormand

Well Said! My neighbor created a cat habitat in his backyard but the fence means nothing to the cats.

My dogs are mostly house dogs, so they do not mess in others yards or bark incessantly. They do however, wake me up when they hear the cats fight. Population control is in effect.


41 posted on 07/16/2008 9:42:59 AM PDT by Tahoe3002 (USMC 1972-1981)
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To: Lx

Free range kitties have substantially reduced the incidence of Giant Canada Geese in this area and now our sidewalks are no longer green and slimey.


42 posted on 07/16/2008 9:47:18 AM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: muawiyah
I have to admit, I laughed when my wife caught what she thought was a next door neighbor's cat with a bird in its mouth. She ran out and the cat dropped the bird. My response was that the cat had to eat and her bird feeder is just the place. I dislike birds, a Herron looked beautiful sitting on our fence until I noticed it was feeding on our Koi pond.

The funny thing is my wife saw the same cat when she was walking the dog and it wasn't a neighbor's cat, it was skinny and needed food. So now she feels guilty. If I find that cat it will be like the roach motel, they check in but never leave unless we find an adoptive family.

I seriously don't believe cats kill 5 million birds a year. Think of it as improving the breed by culling the week.

43 posted on 07/16/2008 10:14:51 AM PDT by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: lormand

Funny you should mention bird feeders. My wife has one she likes to look at and has caught more than one cat at the bird smorgasborg. I just laugh, I love cats and if I can catch them then they live inside our house until we adopt them out or we keep them.

Since I dislike birds intensely, I don’t loose sleep over them becoming a cat’s dinner. It’s not like they’re killing bald Eagles but I would never kill a bird either.


44 posted on 07/16/2008 10:20:04 AM PDT by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: lormand

One more thing, idiots who let their house cats out are well, idiots. I live in the Foothills where there are lots of predators so you would think people would make the connection with their missing cat and the wonderful wild back to nature experience they had when they saw a Coyote crossing the road.


45 posted on 07/16/2008 10:22:33 AM PDT by Lx ((Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.))
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To: Slings and Arrows
This looks harder than you think.


46 posted on 07/16/2008 10:38:01 AM PDT by Daffynition
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To: Daffynition

Kitty not happy.


47 posted on 07/16/2008 10:40:14 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (~ ~ FREE LAZAMATAZ! ~ ~ [Shipping and handling charges may apply.])
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To: listenhillary

LOL


48 posted on 07/16/2008 11:04:22 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (I voted Republican because no Conservatives were running. And FREE LAZAMATAZ)
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To: Slings and Arrows

There is no way that I could leash my cats. They would go nuts, I already tried that. However, they both are fixed and don’t leave the yard. Plus they have all their shots.

The dogs around here run loose and my cats defend their yard. The dogs are scared of them.

If you can leash a cat....WOW! Give me some tips..hehehehehe


49 posted on 07/16/2008 1:05:55 PM PDT by meanie monster
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To: Fawn
The cat killer is a guy I know, who knows a guy.

"Birds carry over 60 diseases yet you cry over a cat poopin in your yard....SMART!"

I don't think the egregious act was cat poop, but rather large amount of Dove feathers, blood and bloody skeletal remains of these birds all over a pristine landscaped yard.

50 posted on 07/16/2008 1:29:21 PM PDT by lormand ("The Planet is fine, the people are $%#ed up" - George Carlin)
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