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The Dark Knight - Overrated?
07/21/08 | Hicks

Posted on 07/21/2008 10:11:59 AM PDT by Cpl. Dwayne Hicks

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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks

I saw it on Saturday. I thought it was very, very good. But not the artistic and cinematic masterpiece people are raving about.

There’s nothing I would have changed, exactly - it’s just that my overall “thrill” level may just no go up as far as other people’s with this kind of film. I didn’t see exactly why it got all the raves it did. I will agree with you that it couldn’t possibly live up to the hype.

Maybe I missed something. I would recommend the movie as great summertime entertainment. But an all-time classic? I dunno. I liked the 1989 Batman also.

I might see it again, with a friend who has not seen it. Plus, I may get more out of it this time, which often happens for me on second viewings. So they get my money twice!


21 posted on 07/21/2008 10:34:00 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: The Louiswu

He was good. Could never figure out why he never bled when Batman pummelled his face while he was in the holding cell. Maybe that would have crossed the violence line. Sure, show six cops being killed but don’t bloody the Joker’s face.


22 posted on 07/21/2008 10:34:40 AM PDT by Cpl. Dwayne Hicks (Somebody wake me up!)
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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks
Too much needless violence. The movie should have ended when Two-Faced was revealed

Thanks for the SPOILER.
Nope, haven't seen it yet.

23 posted on 07/21/2008 10:35:08 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Teachers open the door. It's up to you to enter.)
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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks

The script was much better than average for a superhero movie (Alfred: “Some men just want to watch the world burn.”)


24 posted on 07/21/2008 10:35:19 AM PDT by Califelephant
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To: DeOppressoLiber1776

They left Harvey’s condition vague enough that in the next flick they can say that his death was faked and he was whisked away for treatment under the most secretive of circumstances.

If you also read the comics, Harvey was cured for a while(after some reconstructive surgery) and even took over for Batman for a year while Bruce was on retreat with Dick and Tim. But the status quo being what it is, Harvey ended up going nuts again and scarred his own face to again become Two Face.


25 posted on 07/21/2008 10:35:20 AM PDT by Y2Bogus
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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks
At least an hour too long and the sequence where Dent (a man with half a face) grabs a terrified little boy, jams a gun to his head while his Mother and little sister watch screaming and he taunts his Dad, was the most disgusting, vile and unforgivable crap I've seen in a "mainstream", big studio movie EVER! And with all the darkness and mayhem it gets a PG-13???

How many people have to be gutted, impaled, shot in the head and burned alive to get an "R" these days.

Despicable.

26 posted on 07/21/2008 10:37:51 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: retrokitten
But what was with Christian Bale’s Batman voice?? He sounded like The Cookie Monster! “I’m in disguise, so I will use this very fake gravely voice.”

LOL! Hey RK!! good to see you!

I agree about the voice. Here's my comments on the film that I posted on another forum.

"I saw The Dark Knight. It was really good. Heath Ledger really would deserve an Oscar nom if he gets one. Absolutely certifiable take on The Joker. Creepy and fantastic. In fact, all the acting in this movie is excellent. I don't know that I'd have picked Maggie Gylenhall to play Rachel, but it works. The only annoyance is I didn't like Christian Bale's voice when he was Batman. A little to overdone with the growl-like thing and it took me out of the movie at times."

27 posted on 07/21/2008 10:38:34 AM PDT by conservativebabe (tagline challenged)
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To: Y2Bogus
"even took over for Batman for a year while Bruce was on retreat with Dick and Tim"

Please don't tell me it was on Brokeback Mountain!
28 posted on 07/21/2008 10:39:45 AM PDT by Cpl. Dwayne Hicks (Somebody wake me up!)
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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks

I liked it, but it seemed a bit disjointed at times. Poor editing perhaps? Maybe they tried to do too much, even at 2 1/2 hours. The Joker definitely stole the show. He got to monologue quite a lot!


29 posted on 07/21/2008 10:40:09 AM PDT by TheDon
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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks

I thought it was good, and quite complex for a hollywood piece. But high expections kind of ruined it for me.

Also, I think most people not familiar with the Batman story would have been quite confused at times.


30 posted on 07/21/2008 10:40:49 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: Deb

I agree it was borderline R. More of a PG-16 movie.


31 posted on 07/21/2008 10:42:35 AM PDT by Cpl. Dwayne Hicks (Somebody wake me up!)
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To: Deb

I agree it should have had an R rating. If fact, I thought it did.

And the scene with the little boy was disturbing as well. As a parent, it’s like a gut punch and I sat with clenched fists and a wincing face.

However, it went along with the storyline and though it bothered me, I thought there was maybe a certain realism to that. In the real word, a true evil criminal or even those driven to atrocities by whatever means wouldn’t hesitate to harm a child no matter how disgusting that is.

Perhaps, anyone else who finds that too much to handle ought to sit this one out.


32 posted on 07/21/2008 10:43:31 AM PDT by conservativebabe (tagline challenged)
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To: Carpe Cerevisi
I haven’t seen The Dark Knight yet but watched Batman Returns over the weekend. I noticed the cheesy gravelly voice that Christian Bale used also [...]

Do you perhaps mean Batman Begins?

Regards,

33 posted on 07/21/2008 10:43:41 AM PDT by alexander_busek
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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks

3 hours of pure hell.


34 posted on 07/21/2008 10:44:02 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks

I prefer the new movies because they more represent the true story of batman and how dark and violent the story and the villians really are.
I enjoy the lack of casting A-list hollywood actors just for hype-sake and the over acting that occured.

The earlier ones were showcases for the actors, costumes that looked like holloween party material, Tim Burton living out his gothic & art-deco fetishes. The last two looked like cheap porno movies. The whole story took a backseat to the actors camping it up for the camera.

Enjoyed the dark knight very much. Very true to the spirit of the comics.


35 posted on 07/21/2008 10:44:44 AM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Cpl. Dwayne Hicks

Loved it. Worth the hype.


36 posted on 07/21/2008 10:45:44 AM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: FormerACLUmember
Holy Movie Review!

37 posted on 07/21/2008 10:47:39 AM PDT by Cpl. Dwayne Hicks (Somebody wake me up!)
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To: Deb

I think it got the PG-13 because most of the nasty stuff happened off camera. You know it happened but they didn’t show it, generally the ratings are more about what’s shown than what’s known to the audience.

Add to that the fact that the ratings board is notoriously fickle and frankly the whole system should be tossed.


38 posted on 07/21/2008 10:48:13 AM PDT by boogerbear
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To: DeOppressoLiber1776

you guys should put “spolier alerts” and realize that people read these threads before seeing the film before you give away a major part of the ending.


39 posted on 07/21/2008 10:48:45 AM PDT by thefactor (the innocent shall not suffer nor the guilty go free...)
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To: conservativebabe

Did you like the scenes in the elevator?


40 posted on 07/21/2008 10:49:42 AM PDT by Cpl. Dwayne Hicks (Somebody wake me up!)
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