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Poor children are more at risk for diabetes (Vote for a Marxist utopia.)
stltoday.com ^ | 07/21/2008 | NA

Posted on 07/21/2008 12:45:46 PM PDT by neverdem

Diabetes strikes harder at those who were poor as children, according to a new 30-year study.

Participants who were disadvantaged in youth were more likely to develop diabetes than better-off peers were during the 34-year time frame of the study.

"Our study, among others, shows a strong, persistent effect of childhood socioeconomic position on the development of diabetes in adulthood, even after taking later-life socioeconomic position into account," said Siobhan Maty, an epidemiologist at the Portland State University School of Community Health in Oregon.

Researchers examined health records and studies from 1965 to 1999 of about 5,900 people. Of the people who developed diabetes, 65 percent were from poor households, regardless of their economic conditions later in life. Also, 54 percent of those who developed diabetes were women.

The findings show the link between poverty and diabetes, says Adam Drewnowski, of the University of Washington Center for Obesity Research.

"The fight against obesity and the eradication of poverty are, in fact, one and the same," he said. "It is difficult to design effective weight control strategies without taking the root causes of obesity and diabetes into account."...

(Excerpt) Read more at stltoday.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: capitalism; diabetes; health; poverty
Root causes, hmmm, we don't have to import poverty in the form of illegal aliens with no skills.

Childhood socioeconomic position, gender, adult body mass index, and incidence of type 2 diabetes mellitus over 34 years in the Alameda County Study.

1 posted on 07/21/2008 12:45:47 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Poorer children eat lots of starches to fill them up. Overloads the pancreas.

Just my non-doctor opinion.


2 posted on 07/21/2008 12:51:21 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

And the cause of them eating more starches is that their lazy unmarried mothers living on food stamps and welfare buy junk foods instead of taking time off from Oprah to prepare a proper meal.


3 posted on 07/21/2008 1:25:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: autumnraine

P.S. So therefore, GOVERNMENT causes diabetes in children.


4 posted on 07/21/2008 1:25:46 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: neverdem

Looks like they are lumping type 2’s with type 1 and pointing to being poor as a cause? Funny, I was living in a brand new 3 bedroom house when I was diagonised at 9yo with type 1, guess I’ve always went agaisnt the grain?


5 posted on 07/21/2008 1:26:47 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I didn’t say anything about welfare, lazy unmarried mothers or food stamps. Alot of people eat starches and aren’t on food stamps. Alot of people aren’t on food stamps which is why they eat poorly.

But however you want to take my comment on why poorer children have a higher risk for diabetes.


6 posted on 07/21/2008 1:42:41 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

Those EBS cards buy a lot of Doritos. It’s the Republicans fault per usual./s


7 posted on 07/21/2008 1:43:52 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: autumnraine
Alot of people aren’t on food stamps which is why they eat poorly.

You have got to be kidding!

8 posted on 07/21/2008 1:46:51 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative

No, I’m not. So you have no respect for people who aren’t making so little they can get, or even better, refuse to get on food stamps? That they might be the ones who are eating starchier foods. How many threads have I read on here lamenting on how people on food stamps eat better than they do. But now when that article doesn’t suit your purpose, just the opposite is true?

So yes, some people do eat poorly because they aren’t on food stamps, for whatever reason. And by poorly, I mean making the starches stretch.


9 posted on 07/21/2008 1:50:58 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: mplsconservative

Take your argument baiting somewhere else.


10 posted on 07/21/2008 1:51:35 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: mplsconservative; Gabz

Thought you’d get a kick out of this. LOL!


11 posted on 07/21/2008 1:51:57 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: autumnraine

Hey newbie, there’s something called food shelves, gardening, spending money wisely.

BTW, FR is a discussion forum. Argument baiting, or whatever you call it, is half the fun! Get over yourself.


12 posted on 07/21/2008 1:56:19 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative

Some things just leave one scratching their head.

Correlation does NOT equal causation.


13 posted on 07/21/2008 1:58:25 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Gabz

Don’t you dare bring logic to this discussion. :)


14 posted on 07/21/2008 2:01:49 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative

But it’s FUN!!!


15 posted on 07/21/2008 2:08:24 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: mplsconservative
Hey newbie, there’s something called food shelves, gardening, spending money wisely. BTW, FR is a discussion forum. Argument baiting, or whatever you call it, is half the fun! Get over yourself.

While I do agree with your argument and I do think you are 100% right, her being a "newbie" is irrelevant (as a "newbie" myself), it is her lack or facts which makes her weak in this argument and not her FR "birth date". :)
16 posted on 07/21/2008 2:14:38 PM PDT by FORTRUTHONLY (Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)
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To: Gabz

LOL! You changed your tagline. :( It was one of my favorites. Hope your gardening is going well.

We’re tight on money these days but the ol’ garden is doing well warding off diabetes. Zucchini, acorn squash, tomatoes, raspberries, peppers and such are all in abundance. It’s a glorious time of year!

I’m very grateful to have the space to garden. I know not all folks are so blessed. I just find it hard to believe people have to live on starches. Heck, strawberries were $1.48 a pound here last week.

Getting down from soapbox now...LOL


17 posted on 07/21/2008 2:20:52 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: FORTRUTHONLY; autumnraine

Sorry FTO, sometimes I can’t help myself. Autumnraine seems like a decent sort. Hang around for awhile and you’ll be tempted yourself. Welcome to FR. It’s a great place! :)


18 posted on 07/21/2008 2:24:57 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative
The temptation is there, it's quite evident but the newbie term is quite a turnoff and a disappointing term for newcomers. I almost left FR because of a myriad of arguments which they were strictly based on my FR birth date. However, I did manage to encounter some wonderful people who changed my mind on my leaving the forum and I am grateful to them for convincing me to stay. :)
19 posted on 07/21/2008 2:30:39 PM PDT by FORTRUTHONLY (Easy as 3.14159265358979323846...)
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To: mplsconservative

I accept. I just wanted to make my point clear that I wasn’t saying it is or isn’t the “government’s fault”. My mom fed me lots of biscuits, grits and other cheap starches and was never on food stamps. That was all my point was. I don’t think I’m alone in that statistic.

But thanks for the welcome!


20 posted on 07/21/2008 2:33:15 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: autumnraine

Thanks. I guess I am a little cranky today. :)

FR is such a special place for conservatives, I get a little overprotective sometimes.

Once again, welcome.


21 posted on 07/21/2008 2:38:54 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative

I like it so far! I haven’t seen a collection of articles anywhere else like it.


22 posted on 07/21/2008 2:49:02 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: mplsconservative

Aren’t we ALL tight on money these days? As for the garden, it’s a good thing my husband and daughter are also enthusiastic about it, as it has been in their care for close to a week now as I have been abit under the weather.

I too am thankful for the large space for a garden, but then I also used to do plenty when I only had a postage stamp townhouse lot.

No one has to live on starches, but I can understand why so many do, and it is not always due to laziness or even poverty, but a lack of know-how. I am thankful I have a high metabolism rate because if I didn’t I would no doubt be a candidate for diabetes because of my mother’s cooking — or lack of.

Hamburger helper and tuna helper or mac and cheese and pizza and pasta were mainstays for dinner in my house when I was young unless my dad was home for dinner (he worked shifts) or we went to my grandmother’s. With a bit of help from dad, and being in my grandmother’s kitchen all summer I had taken over much of the cooking in high school, and then all of it when I was in Tech School.

One of the common themes in conversations after I had moved out, and to another state, was about my cooking. So invariably when I would go back for a weekend visit, I did all the cooking! She never could comprehend why a 2 person household needed a 25cf freezer or why I would want to teach myself canning. She also couldn’t comprehend why I would want to have 2 acres in the middle of an agriculture area.

She is probably turning in her grave knowing I actually have a roadside produce stand and sell homemade jelly. Girls raised in NYC just DON’T do things like that. LOL!!!


23 posted on 07/21/2008 2:51:37 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: Gabz

You have the best stories! Hamburger Helper was a staple in my childhood, as well. Yum-yum! :)

I’m sorry to hear you’re not feeling your finest.

I’ll keep you in my prayers tonight. I just turned 48 last month, and Lord knows we could all use a few. Take care Gabz, and put your feet up.


24 posted on 07/21/2008 3:08:21 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: mplsconservative

Hamburger Helper will never see the inside of my kitchen!!!!!

I turn 48 in September, so I know where you are coming from, but extra prayers are always welcome!


25 posted on 07/21/2008 3:14:27 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: neverdem

We will all be equal when we are all poor. Communism kills, I don’t see why people cannot get that throught their thick skulls.


26 posted on 07/21/2008 3:20:27 PM PDT by vpintheak (Like a muddied spring or a polluted well is a righteous man who gives way to the wicked. Prov. 25:26)
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To: Gabz

LOL! I also turn 48 in Sept! Seems to be a lot of us born in 1960. :)


27 posted on 07/21/2008 3:55:56 PM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: chris_bdba; Gabz

Weird. Me too. 48, September.


28 posted on 07/21/2008 4:02:06 PM PDT by 21twelve (Don't wish for peace. Pray for Victory.)
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To: 21twelve; chris_bdba

Happy Birthday to thee
Happy Birthday to thee
Happy Birthday to me
Happy Birthday to us three!!!!!!!!


29 posted on 07/21/2008 4:07:17 PM PDT by Gabz (You said WHAT?????????)
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To: mplsconservative
Those EBS cards buy a lot of Doritos.

You evil person. You know very well that the solution for this is a new social program wherein all poor children are hand-fed quality food until their 21st birthday by unionized federal employees.

/Democrat

30 posted on 07/21/2008 5:01:38 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Expel the priest and you don't inaugurate the age of reason, you get the witch doctor--Paul Johnson)
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To: denydenydeny

Yup! Evil, that’s me! LOL


31 posted on 07/21/2008 5:15:27 PM PDT by mplsconservative
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To: autumnraine

I disagree. A study of poor Southern rural blacks diets several years ago revealed a startling discovery. The diet of the poor blacks was actually higher in nutrition and lower in overly processed foods than that of the so-called “rich”. The working poor, who don’t use food stamps, buy less junk food than the inner city welfare moms. In the US, the poorest people, i.e. those living exclusively off Uncle Sam, tend to be the most overweight.


32 posted on 07/21/2008 7:02:12 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: chris_bdba; austinmark; FreedomCalls; IslandJeff; JRochelle; MarMema; Txsleuth; Newtoidaho; ...
Looks like they are lumping type 2’s with type 1 and pointing to being poor as a cause?

The St Louis Dispatch story mentions obesity and diabetes in later life, not as a youth. The title of the original article is in comment# 1. It mentions type 2.

FReepmail me if you want on or off the diabetes ping list.

Enter Volek js, Feinman rd into PubMed's query box, and you'll do an author search for the authors who wrote, "Carbohydrate restriction improves the features of Metabolic Syndrome. Metabolic Syndrome may be defined by the response to carbohydrate restriction."

They have seven newer citations including three more open access articles. This last link goes to a very interesting abstract.

Comparison of low fat and low carbohydrate diets on circulating fatty acid composition and markers of inflammation.

33 posted on 07/21/2008 7:16:40 PM PDT by neverdem (I'm praying for a Divine Intervention.)
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