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What if McCain picked Joe Lieberman?
opinion | 07-23-2008 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 07/23/2008 10:48:39 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin

Joe Lieberman would be a personal choice of mine in that I would believe it could bring in enough votes to take the win for McCain, but obviously while I admire him so very much there are a number of political issues I disagree with – but there are also many that I agree with Joe on. The problem is I’m dreaming this one, because I don’t think the conservatives would be very happy with this choice. Still, I have him as a personal favorite, but it isn’t going to happen.

I liked Gov. Sarah Palin (R-Alaska), but the problem is the latest news that Sarah might have fired a public safety commissioner because he would not fire a state trooper who was involved in a divorce with Palin’s sister. Not sure the whole story here, but there might be an independent investigation on it and the phony liberal news which is running Obama’s campaign would be on the spin 24x7 over Palin and this story on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and LSD if McCain picked her.

I voted for Mitt Romney, and he would be a first choice, but the problem is this. McCain looks like a midget standing next to Mitt. Appearance matters. So it won’t work.

The Jindal already said he’s out, he would have been another choice of mine.

Those were my choices, three of which are not going to happen, one of which might happen (Mitt) but like I said, if Romney is picked you could never have McCain and Mitt on the same podium together, or even on the same stage … or perhaps even in the same room … if the cameras were rolling … because McCain looks like Mr. Peepers next to Mitt, like he’s a midget. So it won’t work.

That leaves me with nothing.

What about Hillary? She’s a Democrat, but …. It would win the Presidency for McCain. Just wanted to kick the apple cart.

So, I guess, all things aside, there is still Rudy. I would go for that, but then McCain would probably loose the election as a result.

People keep talking about Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-Minnesota) – I’m not really so sure this would pull in enough votes to swing a state for McCain as some say. And, he’s got a nice guy appeal to him, but I can’t figure out what’s really in his head as far as positions. I guess I don’t know enough about him.

John Thune opposed the 2007 comprehensive immigration bill – which is exactly why he would appeal to voters like me to really get on the McCain bandwagon simply because it would to extent calm my fears about McCain and his too affectionate and confused ideas about illegal aliens. It would help the ticket among the base, but it wouldn’t really help in the General election. He has that “look” about him – you know, that “Marine” look. But the deal on that is, he almost looks “too square” if that makes any sense. McCain would never pick him anyway.

So, everything sucks. I guess I will just have to wait and see what happens – a rabbit out of the hat?

Jumpin’ Joe. Joe is the guy. You don’t like him. But I do because it wouldn’t be the end of the world. Because it would be the winning ticket. Jumpin’ Joe. All the conservatives would go bezerker – but then … we would start to like Joe. You would see.

And – just think about talk radio! Man, it would be exciting stuff, and man it would be news. Everyone talking. Some screaming, some reconsidering, some looking at the strategy, it would bump Obama right off the front page! And the conspiracy theories!

Man oh man, this would be FUN!

Because, there’s always Rudy. Rooo-de, Rooo-de, Rooo-de. You want that?

Ok – talk to me. Who is left?


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1 posted on 07/23/2008 10:48:39 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Obviously the portfolio of the Vice President is non-existent, even in a post-Cheney world. His positions on abortion and other issues would be unacceptable to many, but I think it could be the magic bullet that gets the independent votes needed to win this thing.

Even so, I think it sets up a real mess. McCain isn’t even guaranteed to serve two terms, or even run for two. Does this mean we’re looking at Joe Lieberman as the GOP nominee in 2012, much less 2016 when he would be. There’d have to be assurances he wouldn’t seek the Presidency, but that doesn’t mean he can’t become our standard-bearer for other reasons, god forbid. How long exactly do we want to be be lost in Moderate wilderness?

I think McCain has to start focusing on the future of the Republican Party, irrespective of his chances in November. I think he saves us a lot of heartache if he picks Romney. We don’t need another jungle in 2012.


2 posted on 07/23/2008 10:55:50 PM PDT by MeanMachine
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To: Brian_Baldwin

McCain is old, we need a very reliable conservative in case something happens to him before the end of his term or terms. Lieberman is too liberal.


3 posted on 07/23/2008 10:56:29 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

He should pick old Joe , he is going to lose anyway , might as well have his pal with him .


4 posted on 07/23/2008 10:56:30 PM PDT by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it , freedom has a flavor the protected will never know)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Never on a Saturday.


5 posted on 07/23/2008 10:57:10 PM PDT by exit82 (People get the government they deserve--and they are about to get it --in spades.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Lieberman is great on the War on Terror.

On every other issue, he is a classic liberal.

If McCain picks Lieberman, it would be the ultimate stick in the eye to the conservative base, and probably would help make Obama the next president.

It would be a bad move for the country, and for the GOP.


6 posted on 07/23/2008 10:57:22 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Four members of the U.S. Supreme Court don't understand the words "shall not be infringed.")
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Also no offense but the midget thing is pretty ridiculous. Most people don’t remember this but George HW Bush was actually about half a head taller than Reagan, and it worked in every sense. That ticket actually has a lot of parallels to McCain-Romney, particularly overcoming personal antipathy for the sake of the election.


7 posted on 07/23/2008 10:57:23 PM PDT by MeanMachine
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8 posted on 07/23/2008 10:57:34 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 ("When you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
No thanks. 8 is only 1 more than 7.
9 posted on 07/23/2008 10:57:42 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Brian_Baldwin
"Joe Lieberman"? Why not Sharpton? Certainly we can overlook the war dilemma.

/LMAO

10 posted on 07/23/2008 10:58:36 PM PDT by MaxMax (I'll welcome death when God calls me. Until then, the fight is on)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Right on, I agree with you! Remember McCain is not going to hold on the Conservative Base like President Bush did back in ‘04 so McCain best shot is to appeal to independents and soccer moms.


11 posted on 07/23/2008 11:00:56 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Brian_Baldwin

The Jindal already said he’s out.”

Yes, BJ would’ve probably been a great choice - he’s certainly got a glowing political future ahead. Mitt would be a bad choice for many reasons, unfortunately.

I absolutely don’t know the answer - my gut just tells me that it MUST be someone with the “wow” factor and a real contrast to McCain, in order to capture attention away from the Obamessiah.


12 posted on 07/23/2008 11:02:30 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: MeanMachine

I like Eric Cantor. He’s relatively young ,conservative, Pro-life, and Jewish. (Also, he looks like one of the Ghost Busters.)


13 posted on 07/23/2008 11:04:28 PM PDT by SMCC1
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To: Libertarianize the GOP
Think of it this way – every time Obama and company would try to spin the “race issue”, good ol’ Joe can look ‘em right in the eye and say:

“What’s a matter, Barry? You don’t like Jews?” ….

It would blow the whole Barack race crap right off the map!

Jumpin’ Joe would SINK the RACE CARD!

14 posted on 07/23/2008 11:11:43 PM PDT by Brian_Baldwin
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To: SMCC1

I like him too, but we need him in the House. He may have national aspirations, but I doubt he’d give up his shot at being the first Jewish Speaker of the House to join a dead ticket.


15 posted on 07/23/2008 11:12:01 PM PDT by MeanMachine
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To: Brian_Baldwin

It’s going to be Tommy Thompson.


16 posted on 07/23/2008 11:14:56 PM PDT by kingu (Party for rent - conservative opinions not required.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

A non-issue. He won’T pick Joe. I think Lieberman has good chances for being next SecState or SecDefense.


17 posted on 07/23/2008 11:23:55 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

McCain is not too old....obama is too young...

And I have always liked Lieberman...not his standing on social issues. (To liberal)..but I like his strength on defense..NO doubt about his patriotism...


18 posted on 07/23/2008 11:26:27 PM PDT by Thinkin
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Hell he ought to go all the way and pick Hillary. He would beat obummer like a dog and unless he died in office Hill would be a footnote. She would take the nomination too just to piss off the dems for throwing her under da bus.


19 posted on 07/23/2008 11:26:46 PM PDT by Snurple
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To: Snurple

With Hillary as veep, McCain would suffer a fatal “ age related heart attack” during inauguration.


20 posted on 07/23/2008 11:28:10 PM PDT by SolidWood (Obamarxislamism, the threat to our Republic!)
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To: SolidWood

Ah, she would let him hang around for a month or so.


21 posted on 07/23/2008 11:31:08 PM PDT by Snurple
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To: Libertarianize the GOP

“Lieberman is too liberal.”

Lieberman isn’t too liberal he is just plan and simply liberal.


22 posted on 07/23/2008 11:33:30 PM PDT by cw35
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

I agree! That’s all I’m going to say!


23 posted on 07/23/2008 11:53:21 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Brian_Baldwin

If McCain picks Loserman he is finished. He needs a younger co-star.

A Romney or Jindal - somebody with SOME conservative credentials.

If he picks Loserman, I will vote third party and hope Obama beats him.


24 posted on 07/24/2008 12:03:24 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: MeanMachine

He might as well. McCain isn’t going to do anything for conservatives, so why should conservatives delude themselves by asking for a meaningless gesture.


25 posted on 07/24/2008 12:05:54 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Brian_Baldwin

hmmmm....you must be a “new-age republican” and not a conservative.


26 posted on 07/24/2008 1:57:31 AM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: ninenot

ping as to Tommy Thompson


27 posted on 07/24/2008 2:01:47 AM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: kbennkc
He should pick old Joe , he is going to lose anyway , might as well have his pal with him .

+100

28 posted on 07/24/2008 2:11:47 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophogus)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

It’s over he is picking Romney.


29 posted on 07/24/2008 2:13:01 AM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

our only hope is congressional races, heck even if we have to vote out the rinos in congress ultimately it will be a win. unfortunately the GOP doesn’t even have a candidate for 2nd district Arkansas.


30 posted on 07/24/2008 2:13:43 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophogus)
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To: llandres
LLANDRES WROTE: "Yes, BJ would’ve probably been a great choice - he’s certainly got a glowing political future ahead. Mitt would be a bad choice for many reasons, unfortunately."

Romney is BY FAR the BEST choice for VP (actually for Pres. as well, but we've got McCain).

Romney is GREAT where McCain is WEAK:

(1) Romney knows economics and has been EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL in business.

(2) Romney is the ONLY Presidential or VP candidate who has had SUCCESSFUL EXPERIENCE---**BEFORE** even getting into office---of PREVENTING A TERRORIST ATTACK IN A TARGET RICH ENVIRONMENT!!! The Olympics is a TARGET RICH environment and he was the ORGANIZER for keeping it running SMOOTHLY, working along with Homeland Security in PREVENTING TERRORIST ATTACKS and KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE.

(3) Romney has the MONEY---and CHARISMA---that McCain needs to WIN, but lacks, to pick up and EXCITE the base AND the Country.

(4) Romney is FANTASTIC at giving a speech---WITHOUT A TELEPROMPTER---and at answering questions spontaneously!

(5) Romney's Morman religion, along with B. Hussein Obama's Muslim and Black Liberation Theology religions, would not be "touchable." (It is my understanding that if your father is a Muslim, YOU are a Muslim forever). As an evangelical Christian, with DOZENS of Morman relatives in Utah, I have NO concern about Romney running the country if he had to take over.

ROMNEY is the BEST CHOICE!!!

(Sorry about so many caps, but I'm too sleepy to bold and underline things right now. I just woke up from falling asleep in the den and I've go to bed.)

31 posted on 07/24/2008 2:56:30 AM PDT by Concerned (My Motto: It's NEVER wrong to do what's RIGHT!!!)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Who is left?

Roger Staubach!

Staunchly pro-life, real estate tycoon, Naval Academy grad, NFL super star, wealthy, Texan!

32 posted on 07/24/2008 3:50:18 AM PDT by TexasRedeye (Eschew obfuscation)
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To: Brian_Baldwin

Anyone remember Lieberman-Warner?


33 posted on 07/24/2008 3:57:05 AM PDT by anoldafvet (Is this what Obama voters consider change. A change of position on every issue.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

He would go down in history as the reason America became energy independent, if he would simply jump from the Democrat to the Republican Party and help to move the agenda forward.
otherwise he will be just a footnote in history, first Jewish American running for Vice Presidency.


34 posted on 07/24/2008 3:59:41 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: Brian_Baldwin

A RINO and a DINO: it would be poetry. Bad poetry.


35 posted on 07/24/2008 4:22:49 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really necessary?)
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To: TexasRedeye

Hey, how about Nolan Ryan... He could give the dims the Robin Ventura treatment.


36 posted on 07/24/2008 4:27:10 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: MinorityRepublican

The way Obama keeps running his mouth, I don’t think McCain has to worry so much about the independents, it’s the conservatives that he needs to worry about.


37 posted on 07/24/2008 4:43:46 AM PDT by panthermom
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To: Brian_Baldwin

I agree with one point - and the McCainiacs should pay attention - if the sole purpose of supporting McCain is to keep Obama out of the White House the best pick would be Hilary.


38 posted on 07/24/2008 6:42:23 AM PDT by Sunnyflorida (McCain Swiftboated the Swift Boat Vets for Truth - Thomas Sowell for President.)
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To: Sunnyflorida

Not one mention of Zel Miller.


39 posted on 07/24/2008 6:56:28 AM PDT by Graycliff (Long haired freaky people, need not apply.)
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To: Brian_Baldwin; Stephanie32

If the story about Sarah Palin and the firing of the trooper is or can be proven not to be true, do you (or anyone) think she could still be a strong possibility for choice of VP?


40 posted on 07/24/2008 7:02:46 AM PDT by Stephanie32
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To: Brian_Baldwin

If I wanted to vote for a liberal, I’d be a Democrat.

It ain’t “winning” when you get the same leftist policies(R) as the opposition(D)


41 posted on 07/24/2008 9:52:52 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Concerned

Sorry I didn’t explain myself better - I LOVED Mitt, and indeed voted for him.

I’m only talking about pure political strategy at this point now, and who might be most likely to help JSM to win. Unfortunately, it’s not Mitt. You have to understand what a game politics is, like chess, and I was being purely pragmatic. Don’t take my word for it, listen to the many (republican and conservative) advisers, strategists, etc., who’ve had DECADES of experience at this and helped steer many campaigns - no, it’s not fair, but politics isn’t fair. It’s totally about keeping your eye on the prize. And believing that you can best serve the country, but knowing you FIRST have to GET there to do it.


42 posted on 07/24/2008 6:11:51 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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To: Concerned

http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/

Read the first article about Mitt not being the wise choise for McCain - bear in mind that my heart is with you, BUT Dick Morris is a very shrewd strategist, Karl Rove (a political genius) has said likewise, and tonight it’s being discussed on Hannity.


43 posted on 07/24/2008 6:39:07 PM PDT by llandres (I'd rather be alive and bankrupt than dead and solvent)
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