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ultimate 1911 handgun(please serious and experieced shooters respond only)
27-6-08 | zeeshan

Posted on 07/26/2008 9:45:42 AM PDT by zeeshan

please the experienced and very serious shooters may add to the list of ultimate handguns in 1911 out of there knowledge and experience.(it would be more help full that if you recommend one gun onlyalong with its manufacturers name and specific model repectively).

slightly compact models will be more appreciated(for concealed carry but without in any way compromising accuracy and durability). thanks zeeshan


TOPICS: Hobbies; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: 1911; banglist; handgun; m1911; nocaps; semiliterate; ultimate
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1 posted on 07/26/2008 9:45:42 AM PDT by zeeshan
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To: zeeshan

respond to what? did you ask a question? is this a vanity? am I talking to myself? One wonders...


2 posted on 07/26/2008 9:49:40 AM PDT by devane617 (we are so screwed)
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To: zeeshan

Obviously it all depends on price, but assuming that we are talking about something within the range of normal, I would say look at the Kimber’s. I have a Kimber Custom Target that is just fantastic. They also have a number of non-full sized 1911’s that a number of people I know have, and all are great.


3 posted on 07/26/2008 9:49:52 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: zeeshan

Yep Kimber 45 pro-carry love it its the best shooting gun I’ve ever shot.


4 posted on 07/26/2008 9:52:48 AM PDT by MES401067
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To: zeeshan

From your other posts I seem to gather that you are a bit shy of a Glock. I have never had the problems you describe and I am Right hand-Left eye shooter as well. Have you tried a Glock in .45?


5 posted on 07/26/2008 9:53:12 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: zeeshan

That would be a Kimber Ultra Carry

http://www.kimberamerica.com/pistols/ultracarry/


6 posted on 07/26/2008 9:54:13 AM PDT by Just_de_facts
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To: zeeshan

The military 1911 have been known to shoot 250,000 rounds without a problem. That is hard to beat.


7 posted on 07/26/2008 9:55:44 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: Squantos

(+)


8 posted on 07/26/2008 9:59:28 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: zeeshan

Why don’t you go to a gun thread for this assistance? Are you quizzing us to see how many of us know anything about guns?


9 posted on 07/26/2008 10:15:22 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: zeeshan
First of all, why do you feel a need to carry? You really need to realistically assess this question.

The semi-auto's are sexy but when your life is on the line, you can't risk having one of their protruding angles snag your clothing...even for a fraction of a second. Secondly, a semi-auto has a lot more moving parts than a revolver, unless you will be taking your carry piece to the range every week, you have to remember to let the magazine springs "relax" or, deal with the prospect of a malfunction at the worst possible moment.

When you need a concealed handgun to function at any time you need it, strongly consider an enclosed hammer revolver.

S&W Revolvers

10 posted on 07/26/2008 10:41:53 AM PDT by fso301
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To: zeeshan
Not sure what your question is. But maybe this is just a ploy since you are a newbie. What do you want to know EXACTLY!!! I quit counting how many rounds I have fired when it hit 500,000. My adopted son is 29 and he just hit 750,000 he calls me rookie. I have about 90,000 on 1911 45 auto. What do you want to know?
11 posted on 07/26/2008 10:48:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil.)
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To: zeeshan

Glock 29. You can just pretend it’s a .45 and still kick a 1911’s ass.

:-)


12 posted on 07/26/2008 10:49:51 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Barack Hussein Obama=Jimmy Carter Part Douche)
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To: Just_de_facts

You’ve got fine taste. I like that very much, but if funds are not a problem I’d pick up one of the Custom Family Ultra II’s.


13 posted on 07/26/2008 11:08:08 AM PDT by Harley (Life is Tough, But It's a Lot Tougher When You're Stupid.)
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To: zeeshan

Sorry but you asked an ignorant question but want expert answers. You need to assess what it will be used for, how it will be carried, number of rounds, size vs hands size, grip, sights... It’s NOT just about what is the best gun. Go to a range, learn to shoot, try many different styles, pick one, problem solved...


14 posted on 07/26/2008 11:29:42 AM PDT by PushinTin
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To: zeeshan

The recommendations for Glock and Kimber are great places to look. My son, who was in Marine Presidential Security forces, chose a Glock 36. He thinks that passions run higher for and against on Glocks than a lot of other pistols. Springfield Armory has an XD model that has had good reviews. Generally you want a single stack magazine. Unless your hands are large, you don’t get a proper grip. As one responder mentioned, extended magazines are a problem also. His recommendation of checking out S&W revolvers is good also.

When I got my permit the instructor said to fire 3,000 rounds before you are really competent. I would append that by saying you need two or three times as many dry fires as you practice at the range.


15 posted on 07/26/2008 11:37:48 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: patton

Guns are eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil !......:o)

I sold all of mine !

Hope yer well Patton !........Stay safe !


16 posted on 07/26/2008 12:01:14 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

I am fine, but all my guns fell out of the canoe, last time I flipped it.

;)


17 posted on 07/26/2008 12:03:23 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Retain Mike

“When I got my permit the instructor said to fire 3,000 rounds before you are really competent. I would append that by saying you need two or three times as many dry fires as you practice at the range.”

Sound advice. I’ve been shooting for over 40 years, and with my kids for the past 20 plus years. There is absolutely NO substitute for solid skills practice and PRACTICAL simulations. I encourage folks to find a local IDPA group and get involved in their shoots. The scenario shooting model is excellent for developing skills that more closely approximate real life situations than you will ever get when just occupying a shooting lane at your local range.

As far the choice for a .45 cal semi... I really like the Chas Daly that I carry. It’s cheap enough that you don’t fret over every potential ding, and yet the classic 1911A1 construction gives you a great platform for add-ons and custom work, if you choose. I did a basic trigger job on this one, fitted a new barrel bushing, added a stronger extractor, and replaced the factory grips with hard rubber grips (Pachmyrs I had laying around). It’s been completely reliable for well over 7,000 rounds. Fits like a well worn glove.

The Kimbers and Springfields and the custom guns out there are very nice. However, for affordable reliability, I’ll take the Chas Daly.


18 posted on 07/26/2008 12:05:07 PM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion)
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To: patton

Canoe retrieve em ?:o)


19 posted on 07/26/2008 12:06:14 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos

Ouch. No.


20 posted on 07/26/2008 12:11:18 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: zeeshan

The ultimate 1911 for concealed carry is the Springfield Armory Ultra-Compact V-10. There is no substitute for this firearm since no other company offers a ported barrel at this price.

The ultimate 1911 in a full sized government model is the one I just finished shooting this morning. It’s a Taurus stainless 1911. It has every feature anyone can desire for around 600 dollars. The only downside is the cheap plastic grips which was probably intentional. I already put in my order for a new set from here:

http://davidsonknives.com/grips/grips.htm


21 posted on 07/26/2008 1:04:35 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Ron Jeremy
Agreed. I have a Kimber Compact CDP II, and it is so accurate that it makes me feel like Zeus throwing thunderbolts. It has never had a jam. The finish is exquisite, with every sharp edge and corner rounded off for concealed carry. It is the finest weapon I have ever owned.

-ccm

22 posted on 07/26/2008 3:35:11 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: PubliusMM

Thanks for the advice about IDPA. I don’t remember seeing Chas Daly at the gun shows. I will look for them.


23 posted on 07/26/2008 4:06:35 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: patton

Obviously...you don’t have enough guns if they didn’t sink that canoe before you flipped.


24 posted on 07/26/2008 4:15:38 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Molon Labe)
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To: zeeshan; Old Sarge; darkwing104
(it would be more help full that if you recommend one gun onlyalong with its manufacturers name and specific model repectively).

Jeez, not this **** again!

25 posted on 07/26/2008 4:18:27 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: patton; Squantos

See what happens when you make love in a canoe? You’re F-ing close to water!


26 posted on 07/26/2008 4:22:25 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: zeeshan

The ultimate 1911 would be a complete, from the ground up, custom build. If you want the absolute best I suggest you contact one of the absolute best 1911 smiths. A few that come to mind are Ted Yost of Heirloom Precision, Stan Chen of Legacy Custom, CT Brian, Ned Christiansen, John Harrison, and Chuck Rogers.

Go over the the Louder Than Words forums to see examples of their work.

http://www.louderthanwords.us/forum/viewforum.php?f=6


27 posted on 07/26/2008 4:28:33 PM PDT by Radio_Silence
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To: Grizzled Bear

LMAO !!!


28 posted on 07/26/2008 4:39:28 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: zeeshan

Isn’t this the 3rd time you’ve posted this?


29 posted on 07/26/2008 4:41:31 PM PDT by Pistolshot (We need a powerful remedy for NO B.O.)
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To: zeeshan

If you don’t want or cant afford a full custom gun I would suggest going with a semi-custom from Les Baer, Ed Brown, Nighthawk Custom, or Wilson Combat.

These are all 70 series guns and don’t have any unnecessary safety devices (anti-litigation devices) that modern Colt 80 series and Kimber series II have that screw up the trigger pull.

Additionally, unlike some Colts and Kimbers, all of these guns will run right out of the box. Not that Colt and Kimber don’ run, but it’s certainly more hit or miss.

They cost a little more than a new Colt, Kimber, or SA but they are worth it. You get what you pay for.


30 posted on 07/26/2008 4:42:05 PM PDT by Radio_Silence
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To: Grizzled Bear

LOLOLOL!


31 posted on 07/26/2008 4:42:34 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Osage Orange

What guns? I don’t have any guns. Evil things, they will jump up and shoot somebody.


32 posted on 07/26/2008 4:45:45 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: patton

Or blow up ...............


33 posted on 07/26/2008 5:44:16 PM PDT by Eaker (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. (H.)
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To: Eaker

Yep, after considerable exhudation, they engage in spontanious combustion, and self-dissasemble right there on the hard stand.

But only in large calibers.


34 posted on 07/26/2008 6:03:35 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: MES401067

I have to agree with Kimber.


35 posted on 07/26/2008 6:05:29 PM PDT by bmwcyle (If God wanted us to be Socialist, Karl Marx would have been born in America.)
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To: patton
But only in large calibers.

I conceal carry a howitzer. By necessity I must wear really loose clothing.

36 posted on 07/26/2008 8:49:52 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: zeeshan
I recently purchased a Taurus PT-1911 and for about a third of the price of all the custom and semi-custom 1911's aforementioned you can't go wrong.

It's the best 1911 I've ever fired...including the expensive ones!

37 posted on 07/27/2008 5:38:41 AM PDT by oldsalt (There's no such thing as a free lunch.)
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To: mountainlion
“The military 1911 have been known to shoot 250,000 rounds without a problem. That is hard to beat.”

I have read of tests like that with the Glock, but never with a 1911. I hear that they usually need reworking about 20,000 rounds, but that it can vary quite a bit because there are so many 1911 manufacturers.
38 posted on 07/27/2008 5:52:17 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: oldsalt

I love mine. It didn’t fail yesterday and it was so accurate even with my loads. I thought I would have had to break it in but it just kept running and running.

The plastic grips just have to go. My new grips should be here in about two weeks. I want to post pictures of it when the grips are installed.

The other thing is I want to cut back the grip safety a little more. I started to take a higher hold and I was having trouble keeping the safety off. It shouldn’t be that touchy.

When I first received it, it was shooting about 18 inches at 60 yards away. I sent it back to the factory and they gave me a shorter rear sight. The thing is dead on now.


39 posted on 07/27/2008 6:47:07 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Radio_Silence

My son's Ed Brown. Those grips are from the same maker as the ones I orders. They are custom grips to your specs.

The great thing about this pistol is the point of impact doesn't seem to change from my son's ammo to factory to my reloads. Remarkable.

40 posted on 07/27/2008 6:57:31 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: Radio_Silence

Yes, but none of those manufacturers offer a ported barrel. No muzzle flip.

My Springfield Armory Champion with a set of bone grips made be me. They aren't that pretty but I like the thickness which can't be had from most makers. Monkey Grips will make a "Chunky" style up to .300" thick.

41 posted on 07/27/2008 7:05:23 AM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: zeeshan
Again? Isn't this your third vanity on this subject? My answer remains the same:

Compact. Lightweight. Reliable.

42 posted on 07/27/2008 7:06:12 AM PDT by Doohickey (SSN: One ship, one crew, one screw.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Huabitze caliber is not measured by bore size - it is the ratio of the bore to the barrell length.

So you must wear REALLY loose clothing.


43 posted on 07/27/2008 10:42:36 AM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: marktwain
I have read of tests like that with the Glock, but never with a 1911. I hear that they usually need reworking about 20,000 rounds, but that it can vary quite a bit because there are so many 1911 manufacturers

I had to qualify with one that had over a 2’ group at 15 yards. It needed a rebuild.

44 posted on 07/27/2008 3:18:37 PM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: patton

I also had to shuffle when I walked...


45 posted on 07/27/2008 5:37:49 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: Grizzled Bear

LOL! Call a doctor, if that lasts more than four hours...


46 posted on 07/27/2008 5:42:09 PM PDT by patton (cuiquam in sua arte credendum)
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To: Pistolshot

At least the third time that I’ve seen. Phishing for something?


47 posted on 07/27/2008 5:46:41 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: mountainlion

1911’s need a new recoil spring after 10,000 rounds.

I also needed to send six Wilson magazines back because they were worn out. Three had to be replaced and the other three needed new followers and springs.


48 posted on 07/27/2008 6:32:32 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: OKSooner

He sounds like some kid who had no idea about firearms so he doesn’t know how to ask or what to ask.

Not a problem. We all started somewhere.


49 posted on 07/27/2008 6:41:56 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5 (NRA - Vote against the dem party)
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To: zeeshan

WWCKD (What Would Capt. Kirk Do?)


50 posted on 07/27/2008 6:42:46 PM PDT by isom35
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