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GM unveils 'fuel-sipping' Camaro
CNN MONEY.COM ^ | Peter Valdes-Dapena

Posted on 07/28/2008 3:09:48 AM PDT by OKIEDOC

When unveiling new performance models, car companies usually boast about horsepower, engine size and expected zero-to-60 times. But when General Motors unveiled the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Monday afternoon, it was the car's fuel economy numbers that were front and center.

It's the return of a once-popular model that has been out of production since the 2002 model year. V6 versions, which GM expects will be the biggest sellers, are expected to get 26 miles per gallon on the highway. That's about the same as a V6 Ford Mustang, while boasting the same horsepower output as a V8 Mustang.

http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2008/autos/0807/gallery.2010_chevrolet_camaro/index.html

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Hobbies; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: camaro; chevy; energy; gasoline; gm; transportation
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Dang good looking car.
1 posted on 07/28/2008 3:09:48 AM PDT by OKIEDOC
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To: OKIEDOC

Did you look at the dashboard design? Yikes, it’s awful.


2 posted on 07/28/2008 3:34:25 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: OKIEDOC

6.2 litre engine? Seems a little big in light of today’s gas prices.


3 posted on 07/28/2008 3:34:54 AM PDT by Loyal Buckeye
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To: Fresh Wind

GM never stood for Good Merchandise


4 posted on 07/28/2008 3:39:43 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: Fresh Wind

Ya think? I like it. The gauges down by the stick are very cool.

I just got a look at the new Malibu, the dash is very clean and well done, also with the blue and silver theme. It’s a ladie’s car though, not for me.


5 posted on 07/28/2008 3:41:42 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: OKIEDOC
The Camaro SS will be powered by a 6.2-liter V8 engine producing up to 400 or 422 horsepower. (Buyers who opt for a manual transmission will get the more powerful engine.) All V8 Camaros are estimated to get 23 mpg on the highway.

This is the most sensible thing GM has done in years, excepting their steady brilliance with the Corvette. Manual trannie drivers are reliable speed freaks.

I had the chance to get an Impala SS a couple of years ago, but they're FWD and auto only. Booooring, and a waste of good horsies. I got a Mustang GT instead, 5sp manual.

6 posted on 07/28/2008 3:45:56 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Who the hell really NEEDS 400 HP ? You got an autobahn in Amnesia ? Oops - I mean Amerikay .


7 posted on 07/28/2008 3:50:43 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: Fresh Wind
different strokes for different folks.

I like the outside design.

I've had Vets and Camaros along with a couple of Porches and an original 64 and 1/2 Mustang so I am just a tad biased.

8 posted on 07/28/2008 3:51:29 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: sushiman
Who the hell really NEEDS 400 HP ?

Me, me! I do!

9 posted on 07/28/2008 3:53:21 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (This election is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if McCain wins, we're still retarded.)
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To: BJungNan
It's all in the opinion.

I happen to think that the Hyundai for the wife, GM SUV and the Ford Taurus work car I have now are great cars.

Have 42,000 on the Ford and not a days problems.

The GM vehicles are excellent and would not complain.

10 posted on 07/28/2008 3:55:57 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: sushiman
You Mr. sushiman have evidently not lived out in the desert of Southern California.

Between the Coyote's runnin illegals across the border and long boring stretches of desert yep we have something better than an autobahn, we have I-8 with very few smokies.

11 posted on 07/28/2008 4:00:27 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: ovrtaxt

I agree, the Malibu dash is very nice.

The first generation Camaro’s exterior was a dynamite design. Every production Camaro since then has been a step down.

The interior, however, was nothing special, typical late 60’s, with ugly plastic and phony chrome.

I suppose if you’re creating a retro-car, it makes sense to copy the bad parts of an old design as well as the good.

Of course, maybe they’re just scrambling to keep up with Ford. Somehow, that seems historically appropriate.


12 posted on 07/28/2008 4:03:42 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: OKIEDOC
I like the outside design.

I do too. That's why the interior is such a disappointment.

13 posted on 07/28/2008 4:10:19 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: Loyal Buckeye
Loyal Buckeye wrote:
6.2 litre engine? Seems a little big in light of today’s gas prices.

Comment:

Yes 6.2 is a little big...

However,if the MSM and Democratic economy gets any worse I may need the power to out run the cops after I rob one of Hugo Chavez's 7-11’s for chips,beer and lotto money.

14 posted on 07/28/2008 4:12:04 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Fresh Wind
Do you think it would have helped if they tuck and rolled the seats instead of the plain Jane flat look.
15 posted on 07/28/2008 4:13:47 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Maybe, but factory fuzzy dice would be the perfect touch.


16 posted on 07/28/2008 4:17:02 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: Fresh Wind
I think it looks great in and out. I have a Ford ‘07 Stang and get nothing but compliments form the Germans and French that I work with who come from overseas. I mention that over there there they have their Porches, Ferraris, etc. and they say ‘Yeah, but there's nothing like your American mustangs, Camaros, Vipers, Corvettes..”
17 posted on 07/28/2008 4:17:33 AM PDT by FreeManWhoCan (An American in Miami)
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To: sushiman

Me. My 14 year old 350 hp tech is only good for so much.


18 posted on 07/28/2008 4:18:39 AM PDT by doodad
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To: OKIEDOC

” You Mr. sushiman have evidently not lived out in the desert of Southern California. “

NOBODY needs 400hp . Waste of money not to mention waste of gasoline . Are these cars ONLY going to be sold to folks who drive in the desert of SoCal ??? Hmmmm... ?


19 posted on 07/28/2008 4:20:29 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: Fresh Wind

yeah, for some reasons detroit is taking a step backward in interior quality. I had a 1997 intrepid, its interior is very plush comparied to many new cars. And most of the bad press chrysler is getting is from their gawd awful interiors. 09 patriot has an interior redo, I plan on buying one in Nov


20 posted on 07/28/2008 4:20:40 AM PDT by Liberty2007 (Here's Dr. Savage's analysis on the POTUS race"The Afro-Leninist vs The Sarcophogus)
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To: OKIEDOC


21 posted on 07/28/2008 4:29:06 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham
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To: sushiman
NOBODY needs 400hp

It's not a question of need; it is a question of want. There are probably very few people that need more than 100 hp. But 422 hp cars are more fun to drive, so we buy those instead of Geo Metros.

22 posted on 07/28/2008 4:30:28 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: OKIEDOC

I think it’s ugly. Looks like a cross between a mustang and those boxy things Dodge has been putting out.


23 posted on 07/28/2008 4:32:09 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Amelia
Like I said different strokes for different folks.

I think she is a beautiful muscle car.

BTW What do you think is a good looking car or cars?

24 posted on 07/28/2008 4:38:50 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Funny, my 5.7ltr V8 T/A with 6spd manual gets 27 on the highway. Turning around 1500 RPM @ 65PMH in 6th.


25 posted on 07/28/2008 4:38:55 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: sushiman
NOBODY needs 400hp

Nobody needs a car at all you can just take public transport, but it's a matter of consumer choice. You can chose to buy a little $hitbox, no car at all, a SUV, a pickup truck, or a viper. It's your money and you can spend it how you wish (or at least until tha @$$holes in the government manage to regulate that aspect of your life as well). SO frankly good buddy most of us don't give a rat's a$$ about what you think people need. It's what the people who are deciding what to spend their money on WANT, not your idea of what they need.

26 posted on 07/28/2008 4:39:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: sushiman

Then by all means, don’t buy one. Thats one more for the rest of us. Thank you!


27 posted on 07/28/2008 4:41:14 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: OKIEDOC

Hemi - mmmmmmm

28 posted on 07/28/2008 4:43:00 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: OKIEDOC

Don’t do that. 7-11 stopped buying gas from Venezuela two years ago.


29 posted on 07/28/2008 4:43:48 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Kicking and Screaming into the Kingdom of Heaven!)
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To: OKIEDOC
BTW What do you think is a good looking car or cars?

Any of the muscle cars of the late 60’s to early 70”. I love my old 69 Charger RT 440.

30 posted on 07/28/2008 4:47:19 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: OKIEDOC

31 posted on 07/28/2008 4:50:33 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: sushiman
sushiman wrote:
” You Mr. sushiman have evidently not lived out in the desert of Southern California. “

NOBODY needs 400hp . Waste of money not to mention waste of gasoline . Are these cars ONLY going to be sold to folks who drive in the desert of SoCal ??? Hmmmm... ?

Comment:

You Mr. Sushiman must have been the guy or gal who wore the lamp shade at frat parties.

It's OK by me if GM only sells in the desert.

Lots of people will travel miles to buy American and not some four cylinder rice burner with a big round loud exhaust to impress the illegal's gal South of the border.

I always thought that in America we had freedom of choice as to what size of engine we had in our car not like some foreign countries and a few States.

I guess thats why when I lived in South America, Toyota's and Nissan's were painted yellow with a little lighted sign saying Taxi on top and those citizens that could drove American made vehicles.

Ask anyone from Cuba if 57 Chevys don't last a lifetime, well 51 years and still going.

32 posted on 07/28/2008 4:57:29 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Fresh Wind

I notice that it still has the old key in the ignition rather than the way the ‘vett does it with the key in your pocket. (But WHY did they show the thing with an automatic?)


33 posted on 07/28/2008 4:57:56 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: Fresh Wind
Tell me you did some kind of mean nasty trick just to upset my morning coffee on that photo, don't let me die dear lord with out knowing, yuk?
34 posted on 07/28/2008 4:59:39 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

The 2002 Camaro was pretty.

I haven’t seen too many that really caught my eye lately...most of them are either same-old, same-old or eye catching because they are ugly.

Maybe it’s because I’m getting old. ;-)


35 posted on 07/28/2008 5:00:55 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Dusty Road
My roommate back in 70 had a Charger, excellent car and just oozed with muscle.
36 posted on 07/28/2008 5:01:49 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Well, it’s obviously not the final version, so you still have hope.


37 posted on 07/28/2008 5:04:27 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Five Year Plans and New Deals, wrapped in golden chains...)
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To: ovrtaxt
"All V8 Camaros are estimated to get 23 mpg on the highway. "

My 5.7 liter LT1 ’94 Camaro got 28 MPG highway. That’s cruising at 75 with a/c on. It wasn’t worth much city wise though.


38 posted on 07/28/2008 5:04:38 AM PDT by sinclair (I'm a radical constitutionalist.)
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To: OKIEDOC
BTW What do you think is a good looking car or cars?

I know you didn't specifically ask me, but here are two I think look great

Although I like the snake skin green in the Viper better than the red.

39 posted on 07/28/2008 5:06:59 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government,)
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To: OKIEDOC
The new ones do a pretty good job of oozing themselves. My wife bought one last year. I have to beg her to drive it. It's faster than my old one.
40 posted on 07/28/2008 5:09:51 AM PDT by Dusty Road
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To: Amelia
The 2002 Camaro was pretty.

I haven’t seen too many that really caught my eye lately...most of them are either same-old, same-old or eye catching because they are ugly.

Maybe it’s because I’m getting old. ;-)

Had an 87 Camaro that I thought was pretty nice car and it handled so well in morning traffic.

Yep we are all getting a little older but somehow my generation still has an appreciation of when there was a heck of a lot more freedom in America.

41 posted on 07/28/2008 5:10:11 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

Where’s the vinyl roof?


42 posted on 07/28/2008 5:15:00 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: from occupied ga
Yep, thats what I'm talkin about, just fits an old vet like me to a T.

However, I have a feeling that Doc will only let me look and drool at those kinds of cars.

She says I can have anything I want as long as it has seating for her, my mother-in-law,the two kids, groceries,soccer balls, bats, toolbox and doesn’t cost much more than a Yugo.

43 posted on 07/28/2008 5:18:11 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Kirkwood
It's to early in the morning for those kids of hilarious jokes. ROFLMBO
44 posted on 07/28/2008 5:19:20 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: OKIEDOC

I had a 78 Celica I would love to have back...got rid of it because it was too small for car seats, strollers, etc...


45 posted on 07/28/2008 5:21:23 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Dusty Road
One of the Navy guys over at the base has a Charger and it is a nice looking car.

It just looks like it needs to be driven fast.

46 posted on 07/28/2008 5:22:04 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: Fresh Wind
The first generation Camaro’s exterior was a dynamite design. Every production Camaro since then has been a step down.

The same can be said about the Corvette and it morphing from the Stingray body the early 60's to the 1968 "SpeedRacer" design. Bigger is not better when it comes to sports cars. If GM had stuck with the smaller sized designs, or had even refined them down smaller, the Corvette would have become a real exotic and the Camero would have become America's answer to the BMW 3 Series.

47 posted on 07/28/2008 5:22:45 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: sushiman

NOBODY needs 400hp . Waste of money not to mention waste of gasoline . Are these cars ONLY going to be sold to folks who drive in the desert of SoCal ??? Hmmmm... ?

Are you a dem operative? The people buying these cars are paying for the fuel, not you. And remember, you can never have too much horsepower.


48 posted on 07/28/2008 5:24:28 AM PDT by kickonly88
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To: Amelia
I hear you.

Those were nice little cars.

My father in law bought one to pull behind his motor home and it was one of the first ones in his town, it was tan with red striping.

49 posted on 07/28/2008 5:24:56 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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To: GAB-1955
I didn't know that.

I guess if I want beer money will just have to rob Hugo's main man in America Robert Big Carbon Footprint Kennedy.

50 posted on 07/28/2008 5:27:38 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (OBAMA aka Post Turtle the Forest Gump of American Politics ABORTION -Liberal Child Abuse.)
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