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Unidentified Flying Threats (UFOs)
New York Times ^ | July 29, 2008 | Nick Pope

Posted on 07/29/2008 6:10:10 PM PDT by decimon

ON the afternoon of Nov. 7, 2006, pilots and airport employees at O’Hare International Airport in Chicago saw a disc-like object hovering over the tarmac for several minutes. Because nothing was tracked on radar, the Federal Aviation Administration did not investigate. Yet radar is not a reliable detector of all aircraft. Stealth planes are designed to be invisible to radar, and many radar systems filter out signals not matching the normal characteristics of aircraft. Did it really make sense to entirely ignore the observations of several witnesses?

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On Dec. 26, 1980, for instance, several witnesses at two American Air Force bases in England reported seeing a U.F.O. land. An examination of the site turned up indentations in the ground and a level of radiation in the area that was significantly higher than ordinary. More witnesses at the same base reported the U.F.O. again on subsequent nights. The deputy base commander reported that the aircraft aimed light beams into the most highly sensitive area of the base — a clear security breach.

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; UFO's
KEYWORDS: callingartbell; crybaby; easilydeluded; gityerownsite; gulliblesuckers; kooks; moonbats; newage; nonsense; spam; suggestive; ufo; wellmeaning
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The aliens chose to study the UK having picked up transmissions of Monty Python.
1 posted on 07/29/2008 6:10:10 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

There are some very odd craft flitting about these days, but they are much, much more likely to come from Burbank or Palmdale than from outer space.


2 posted on 07/29/2008 6:15:18 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: decimon

It was Benny Hill, not Monty Python.


3 posted on 07/29/2008 6:16:02 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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To: decimon; ActionNewsBill; AFreeBird; airborne; albertp; ALASKA; Alice in Wonderland; ...

An inadequate explanation, imho.

Thx for the thread.


4 posted on 07/29/2008 6:19:40 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: atomic conspiracy

Not according to my relative who worked around them routinely.


5 posted on 07/29/2008 6:21:00 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: xcamel
It was Benny Hill, not Monty Python.

And you know this how? Not that I'm suspicious or anything.

6 posted on 07/29/2008 6:21:08 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Given that the NYSlimes is a major mouthpiece of the puppet masters . . . this is an interesting article.

” . . . not investigated . . . since 1969 . . . “

Soooooo misleading. Mostly a brazen lie.

Working with the critters and flying similar craft of our on that they partly taught us to build . . . and keeping a very close watch—as best we can—on all their doings . . . may not fit some defs of “investigated” but it does mine.

The exposure/disclosure of the subject . . . and springing it overtly onto the world’s populace is underway.

Virtually weekly and sometimes daily a new incremental bit of data will flow out.

This is NOT accidental.


7 posted on 07/29/2008 6:26:36 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: decimon

Almost everyone has a cell phone that is capable of taking pictures and or video and nobody caught the hovering image at O’hare?


8 posted on 07/29/2008 6:26:57 PM PDT by kickonly88
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To: decimon

Perhaps we should start a pool . . .

When will FR powers that be decide that the UFO news topic has become central enough to daily life in a hard news sort of way to quit automatically relegating such articles to CHAT?

What should the closest date guess get as a prize?

Who would provide the prize?

What would the criteria be? Sometimes some mods leave up news stories about UFO’s from bona fide sources and MSM media for several days before relegating to chat. How long should we wait to establish that a sea change has occurred?

Any other suggestions about such a pool?


9 posted on 07/29/2008 6:29:20 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: kickonly88

I think it has been established that there were 12-16 or more people in the parking lot at the time—many taking photos with various kinds of equipment, including cell phones.

I don’t recall if any have surfaced. Most folks did not want the exposure and publicity.

There may have also been some threats against publishing the photos.


10 posted on 07/29/2008 6:31:16 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: decimon
George Noory
11 posted on 07/29/2008 6:33:55 PM PDT by Morgana (Muslims...............I can't believe these people are that crazy without alcohol!)
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To: Quix
When will FR powers that be decide that the UFO news topic has become central enough to daily life in a hard news sort of way to quit automatically relegating such articles to CHAT?

When there is something substantial to report about UFOs would be my guess.

12 posted on 07/29/2008 6:38:19 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Morgana

I’ve worked with all of those guys.


13 posted on 07/29/2008 6:40:02 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

How would you define

SUBSTANTIAL?

And why is the bar so unrealistically high on this topic alone?

That bar will still be reached and it appears that it will be far sooner than I’d prefer.

But there’s plenty of substantial info out there already.

The Edgar Mitchel Larry King interviews are a case in point.


14 posted on 07/29/2008 6:40:24 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Quix

Is the Quix Challenge anything like the Klass Challenge?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/aliens/philipklass.html


15 posted on 07/29/2008 6:40:28 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (His Negritude has made his negritude the central theme of this campaign)
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To: Quix
How would you define

SUBSTANTIAL?

Something definite. I've seen nothing but vague references and blurry pictures.

16 posted on 07/29/2008 6:48:51 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Quix

Oh.I thought there were no pictures because no one bothered to take any.


17 posted on 07/29/2008 6:54:31 PM PDT by kickonly88
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To: kickonly88
Almost everyone has a cell phone that is capable of taking pictures and or video and nobody caught the hovering image at O’hare?

How many pictures of a shooting or the momement of collision in an automobile accident have been captured on cell cameras? About none, yet we know both occur.

18 posted on 07/29/2008 6:57:54 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: decimon

Was the chalice looking thingie up on the shelf a rough personality to work with? 0_o


19 posted on 07/29/2008 7:03:41 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Was the chalice looking thingie up on the shelf a rough personality to work with? 0_o

Nah, that was for after hours.

20 posted on 07/29/2008 7:07:50 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

The aliens were attacking with BANANAS!


21 posted on 07/29/2008 7:11:24 PM PDT by BatGuano (We're not playing Tidally Winks here!)
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To: decimon

There are flying saucers and little green men and Eric Cartman getting an anal probe. And we faked the lunar landings.

There’s a crop circle thread currently active that I haven’t clicked on, but I’m sure it will solve all this controversy.


22 posted on 07/29/2008 7:11:46 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: decimon

;)


23 posted on 07/29/2008 7:12:50 PM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: BatGuano
The aliens were attacking with BANANAS!

And the fruit bats ate them and...how ya doin'? ;-)

24 posted on 07/29/2008 7:16:17 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Quix

“The exposure/disclosure of the subject . . . and springing it overtly onto the world’s populace is underway.”

Yeah, the network news piece a couple of years back was a big change on this topic.


25 posted on 07/29/2008 7:54:30 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: kickonly88

“Almost everyone has a cell phone that is capable of taking pictures and or video and nobody caught the hovering image at O’hare?”

Actually there were reports at the time that a ground crew member had pics, but they never appeared in public, in any event. Based on projected altitude, only a small number of folks (ground crew/atc/some pilots) would have been able to look up high enough to see the object, the angle up was too high for terminal passengers to see it, at least without placing their face against the glass in the terminals it might have been possible from, something they had no reason to.

Given the number of apparent professional pilots and others who would be considered expert witnesses in terms of viewing objects in the sky on any other topic, the ORD event was certainly interesting. Even on FR, not many people tried the character-assassination approach on the witnesses.


26 posted on 07/29/2008 7:58:04 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

I’ll check the link.

Last I heard, Klass was still sounding like an idiot government shill.

Unless I’m mixing blokes up.


27 posted on 07/29/2008 8:29:34 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: kickonly88

There was something about it at the Aztec 2008 March Symposium but it was amidst a bunch of other stuff. I don’t know if it’s in my notes, or not. I’ll try and check.

I’m certain there were at least 12 clusters or so of people looking at it in the parking lot. And there may have been 20 something. And there were several cameras sighted being used.

Supposedly one or two were slated to share their photos but I’ve never seen such. I don’t know what happened with such plans.


28 posted on 07/29/2008 8:31:49 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Klass is still clueless.

There have been quite unusual implants extracted and analyzed.

There are more than 3,000 trace elements cases scientifically verified etc. etc. etc.

Klass is still clueless or a well paid government shill.


29 posted on 07/29/2008 8:34:22 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: WoofDog123

The recent Larry King interviews with such as Dr Edgar Mitchell—6th man on the moon . . . have been much more of a sea change.


30 posted on 07/29/2008 8:36:33 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: WoofDog123

Yeah. That was kind of interesting to see above average FR respect for those witnesses.


31 posted on 07/29/2008 8:38:02 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: atomic conspiracy

What’s in Burbank and Palmdale?


32 posted on 07/29/2008 8:46:07 PM PDT by GOPJ (Government bailouts are like potato chips: You can't stop with just one. - Thomas Sowell)
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To: GOPJ
The Skunk Works
33 posted on 07/29/2008 9:58:26 PM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Victory in Iraq: Worst defeat for activist media since Goebbels shot himself.)
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To: Quix

Shouldn’t it be “UFT”? ;’) Thanks Quix.


34 posted on 07/29/2008 10:18:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

UNIDENTIFED FLYING TARGETS???

UFT???


35 posted on 07/29/2008 10:28:59 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: SunkenCiv

DOH,

THE THREAD TITLE! I see it now.

I should go to bed!


36 posted on 07/29/2008 10:37:40 PM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: GingisK

“hovering for several minutes”

Long enough to get your cell camera out.

I keep a camera in my car for that specific reason. Well, that and bigfoot.


37 posted on 07/29/2008 10:53:50 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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To: Quix

Klass is dead, as dead as the brains of believers in flying saucers.


38 posted on 07/30/2008 3:48:18 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (The McCainiac's creed: Death to America by a thousand cuts)
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To: PLMerite
Long enough to get your cell camera out.

Not at an airport where one will be arrested for using a camera.

There are a lot of photographs and movies of UFOs. There is even a film made in the 50s of several objects in a V formation flying behind the US Capital building. That film has been shown to be be legitimate.

39 posted on 07/30/2008 6:13:27 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: JoJo Gunn

What a slick personally assaultive post.

BTW, my relative who worked around the craft with some famous physicists was certainly far from brain dead.

Are you calling me a liar?


40 posted on 07/30/2008 6:48:14 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: GingisK

True. That film is legitimate.


41 posted on 07/30/2008 6:49:06 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: decimon

Wormhole traveling space monsters don’t exist.


42 posted on 07/30/2008 6:55:47 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mysterio

I’m skeptical about wormhole travel, as well.

Reportedly there are 3-4 DIFFERENT ways around the speed of light issue.

And whether one understands that the critters are

watchers/fallen angels/ nephilium/ ET’s . . .

the label probably doesn’t make a great deal of difference . . .

I’m not even sure it makes a great deal of difference whether they come from a spiritual dimension and/or distant galaxies etc.

They are here.

They’ve been here for evidently millenia.

They are in cahoots with satan to establish the global government predicted in The Bible and which will be horrific tyranny.

If someone doesn’t believe that basic outline . . . then they haven’t been paying the least bit of attention with the least bit of fair-mindedness.

Or, perhaps they are terminally poorly read and have no reliable folks in their social network who’ve ever worked in the field.


43 posted on 07/30/2008 7:02:19 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: mysterio
Wormhole traveling space monsters don’t exist.

They do in many Hollywood investment accounts.

44 posted on 07/30/2008 7:18:02 AM PDT by decimon
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To: Quix
Did you relative (uncle?) who worked around these craft provide any information that would lead you to believe the Biblical end-times scenario, versus a straight-forward ET origin?
45 posted on 07/30/2008 8:35:10 AM PDT by Liberty Tree Surgeon (Mow your own lawn!)
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To: Liberty Tree Surgeon

Yes and no.

Will try and elaborate when I get back from errands.

The info he learned in his job fit well such Biblical scenarios.

He also believes similarly.


46 posted on 07/30/2008 8:53:17 AM PDT by Quix (key QUOTES POLS 1900 ON #76 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031425/posts?page=77#77)
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To: kickonly88
Almost everyone has a cell phone that is capable of taking pictures and or video and nobody caught the hovering image at O’hare?

60 years of bad luck and bad timing. Yep, that's the ticket.
47 posted on 07/30/2008 9:00:21 AM PDT by ZX12R
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To: Quix
Are you calling me a liar?

I spoke in general terms of the psychological makeup of those who believe that aliens traveled gazillions of miles just to vandalize farmland with graffiti, to obsess with the sphincters of only one species during their REM stages, and to collude specifically with the Catholics.

And how could I possibly call you liar over hearsay?  ;)

48 posted on 07/30/2008 9:59:51 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (The McCainiac's creed: Death to America by a thousand cuts)
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To: ZX12R

60 years of bad luck and bad timing. Yep, that’s the ticket.
Timing is everything!


49 posted on 07/30/2008 12:25:30 PM PDT by kickonly88
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To: GingisK

How many pictures of a shooting or the momement of collision in an automobile accident have been captured on cell cameras? About none, yet we know both occur.

A collision in an accident doesn’t occur over several minutes.


50 posted on 07/30/2008 12:28:07 PM PDT by kickonly88
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