Posted on 07/29/2008 8:38:33 PM PDT by me_a_republican
Dear fellow forum members,
What are the best reasons or arguments you can think of to keep marijuana illegal?
It would really really help to if you can reply only after reading http://www.nationalreview.com/12feb96/drug.html .
Thank you.
there are none.
it’s destructive.
Welcome to FreeRepublic. You joined to talk about pot? Mmmmmmmkay!
Compared to alcohol in what way exactly?
me_a_republican
Since Jul 29, 2008
...Sigh...
Because it would be too difficult to tax if it was legal to grow your own.
Because it is fun to smoke.
Zero.
So many violations of our constitutionally protected rights (the major one being the 4th amendment) are conducted under the guise of this inane War on Some Drugs...
Welcome to FR. Please play nice with the kitties.
Um, do a google search on the negative effects of marijuana. Why should anyone here do your work for you?
There are no reasons. Wasting police resources on catching people for possession of a plant is an abomination.
I suspect our little troll will be surprised to find out quite a few conservatives aren’t necessarily against legalizing marijuana.
Cough, cough, uh, dude, uh,uh, I really don’t remember. What did you ask?
It would have way too easy access to minors, who do not have the maturity to make that type of choice. That is why we have age of consent laws. With other age appropriate things and activity, we have ways to monitor and restrict age limits.
Do a google search on the negative effects of alcohol and tobacco. And then go to your local convenience store and report back on the availability of those two substances.
Take it from a guy that was arrested with 6 grams of pot. It cost me 6,000 dollars and my 2nd and 4th amendment rights for a year. Pot prohibition is like welfare for the state. How many lawyers, coucilors, judges and police would be out of work? Under probation, I smoked no pot, nearly drank myself to death, but that is taxed and legal so it is OK.
Potta Ping!
Like, uh, wow, man. It’s like, ya know, cool and stuff. I helps to um, make me think better and stuff, ya know?
Best reason to make it legal is to piss off all the people against it.
Nobody would grow it if it was available at the store to over 21 people. When I was in high school, I went to a shop and got all the equipment to make beer. Made one batch. It sucked and took alot of time. It was easier to get illegally than legally
me_a_republican
Since Jul 29, 2008
Get a life troll!
Go back to DU and smoke up a storm.
me_a_republican
Since Jul 29, 2008
A brain fried troll.
I’m neutral on the issue.
Personally, I’ve just always felt that it needs to be put in the proper perspective. Congress and the states regularly adopt laws that they believe promote the general welfare of the American people. From gun laws to gambling to prostitution and more – we allow sensible regulation if it is deemed to promote a healthy society. Drugs are no different. The problem seems to be in how to distinguish the seemingly harmless marijuana, from the more potent and clearly deleterious drugs like cocaine, and also from potentially equally harmful ones like alcohol. There is debate about marijuana’s effect on the brain, and hormonal changes that occur in the body, but generally it can be agreed upon as a matter of common sense that a drugged-out society is not a productive one. Moreover, it is widely conceded that marijuana is a gateway drug; that it leads to other drug use, so we have adopted a bright line rule regarding drug use that begins at marijuana. The theory is that if you can prevent people from using marijuana, you can prevent further, more harmful drug use. Undoubtedly were it to be legal, it would be more readily available, and more people would try it as a matter of course. That in turn could lead to potentially skyrocketing rates of heavy drug use. I submit that like with many other laws, we have simply adopted a bright line rule that is necessarily arbitrary, but not illogical. Most laws are arbitrary when it comes down to the finest application. It is no less arbitrary, in theory, than a person being a “minor” when they are 17 years, 364 days old, and an “adult” the following day. What difference does a day make? It is no less arbitrary than receiving a speeding ticket for traveling 61, when 60 would have been lawful. The one mile per hour is insignificant. However, society has to draw the line somewhere and apply the law rigidly, or all law becomes a meaningless relativistic exercise. Thus, we have decided that we will draw the line at marijuana. Perhaps alcohol is equally dangerous, but it is a historic part of society in ways that marijuana has never been, so it remains legal. Like adulthood, or speed laws, or a million other examples, marijuana is and probably ought to remain in my opinion the bright line on drug use.
Dope.
(just kidding)
Your opinion is obvious. I was told long ago that if we had known as much about alcohol as we do today, probation would have never been done away with. I hate to bust your bubble but there are meny health reasons not to use the drug. The main one for me is that the person smoking this crap always gets blasted,(drunk on his ass) there is no part way. I would look for alcohol to be outlawed before pot is lawful.
Your opinion is obvious. I was told long ago that if we had known as much about alcohol as we do today, probation would have never been done away with. I hate to bust your bubble but there are meny health reasons not to use the drug. The main one for me is that the person smoking this crap always gets blasted,(drunk on his ass) there is no part way. I would look for alcohol to be outlawed before pot is lawful.
Making pot “legal” wouldn’t do a damn thing except make more laws against using it. So you think “legal” pot would be OK? “Now that weed is legal, I can get high anywhere!” Wrong. You would be arrested for public intoxication just like booze. “I can grow my own and sell it and make thousands!”. Wrong! Government regulations and TAXES!!! “I can take weed anywhere and light up!” Wrong! Smoking weed in a public place won’t be tolerated. Second hand TH and high would be considered an infringement on others rights not to smoke weed. If public places ban tobacco smoking...don’t you think they would ban pot too?? Smoking pot while driving? Don’t make me laugh!
I'm am in favor of drug legalization.why stomp all over the bill of rights for an activity thats practiced by less then 2%of the US population
Let the free market and darwin take care of the rest
That said this guy is trolling
We should ban peanuts.
They kill lots of people, many of them children.
think of the children.
I thought he was into blow...
How many drinks have you had tonight?
smoke and blow... but he did not inject the H
bump
Lemme tell you why people should smoke pot...it's because....ummmm....I forgot, man...
-Bob Bitchin
Anyone with a few buckets, a few water pumps and 50 bucks worth of nutrients and materials, plus some indoor lighting can grow whatever they want.
If people grow on their own the mexican drug gangs don’t have anyone to sell to. I don’t see them crossing the border to find Bob in Tulsa.
Supply and demand
If you make it legal, ther’d be no reason to go to Dead concerts ?
Pot is a gateway drug
Know why pot is a gateway drug? Because you have to go see a drug dealer to get it. You have to hide it and conform aspects of your day to day life (got to be careful who you let in your house or car, gotta jock it in the car etc...) in the same manner as a hard drug user. But most of the gateway is the fact that it is illegal.
Before you go pulling my profile and calling me a DUer, I am a sane hard working, tax paying conservative. I also work in a business where drug and alcohol use is rampant. I have seen and lived with my share of people destroyed, and I don’t use the term lightly, by cocaine or it’s derivative. I’ve had friends rob me and in retrospect I don’t blame them, I blame cocaine. The old white lady was calling and there wasn’t hell, high water or lost friendships that would stop them from getting her.
But pot? Drawing the line a bit early my friend. Make cigarettes illegal out of altruistic concern for my health and I would believe that you believe in your premise. The prohibition of pot is far more dangerous to your rights than you realize. Want to end it? Taxpayer funded urine tests every two weeks for 250 million people. Massive investment in infrasructure (Jails, courts, counselors etc...) Police rights to pull and search your home or vehicle anytime they want. Gonna be a bummer when you or someone you know has their home broken into at night and lost their 2nd amendment rights. Having everything you own rifled through by agents of your local government..I am sure I could think of a few more, but it is late. Want to live in that America? I don’t. This is a free country. Or at least in most respects it is.
I think it should be legal for adults to grow it and use it. I worry greatly, however, about it falling into the hands of teens and younger kids.
But selling it may be a different matter. Jose may want a cut of the profits...without no negotiation...
Yeah, but if people grow their own, Jose won’t have anyone to sell to.
And then he goes out of business.
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