Posted on 07/31/2008 8:30:51 AM PDT by msnpatriot
Many have said they’re not interested in Windows Vista, that Windows XP is just fine for them. And in fact, you could go so far as to say some of them actually hate the OS. Still, a new OS, Mojave, may just be the key to a new marketing campaign.
Last week Microsoft told a focus group in San Francisco they were being shown a new version of Windows, codenamed Mojave. Feedback was quite positive; more than 90% gave positive feedback. Afterwards they were told that Mojave was actually Windows Vista.
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I was forced into VISTA - hated it.
I bought a stand alone XP license and deleted the VISTA partition.
I’ve installed Vista 64 on two laptops the last couple of weeks and it is not that bad. Once you turn of the incessant nagging about opening files, it works well.
Had one issue with Office 2003 where you couldn’t change the office assistant of all things and a problem with activation. A one minute search on the web solved both issues.
Oh great. Another Vista, XP, Linux, MAC flaming topic.
All my hardware works, some of the software doesn't, but I wouldn't expect 7 year old software to work with any newer OS.
Same here...I’m running Vista x64 on two new machines I built for myself and my wife. I made sure on both to turn off UAC first thing, turn off Aero, and twiddled a few settings. Generally, I like the newer interface, though it’s taken a little getting used to here and there. Minimal compatibility problems, though, and it runs quite well. I just wish it wasn’t such a godawful bloated memory hog of an OS...1.4 GB memory taken up IDLE!
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Welcome to the desert of the real.
The New Coke focus groups said the same thing too.
At no point during this test group, did the test subjects ever touch a computer or actually have to use the OS being shown on video. At no time did they ever get to test the features shown on the video.
eye rolling PING!
Hehe...at NO TIME did they try to install a two year old printer...:)
Actually I found that some of the older software (Win98 and earlier) works very well under Vista if you run it as an administrator. It is the WinNT, Win2K, and XP-era software that tends to be hit or miss on Vista because of registry issues. This is actually a positive for me since I spent a small fortune on some of that software and now it gets to be used again.
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Yeah, there’s no problems with vista if you are prevented from encountering one of the many, many places where it’s broken.
Remind you of a certain political party?
“Gun control works (if you ignore everywhere it doesn’t.)”
“National healthcare is free (if you ignore where it’s expensive.)”
I just got a Dell XPS Vista laptop with mobile broadband. No issues. Internet at cable speeds wherever I am. And all of my games are working fine on it (So far).
I’ve been using Vista for 6 months now and I HATE WHAT THEY”VE DONE TO WINDOWS EXPLORER.
I still can’t figure it out half the time. I eventually get where I want but I have no idea how I got there.
What I hate more than anything is when Vista tries to anticipate what I want. I know what I want. Get outta my way!
You know Vista has driven you crazy when you want to go back to DOS.
Try Kubuntu.
http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/helldeskcable.html~content
Only a slight exaggeration!
Did you figure out that they were Canadian? (Reference to Futureshop, Northern Telecom phones, etc.)
Let me guess — to make “Mojave” look different from Vista (so the jig wouldn’t be up immediately), they deactivated a bunch of the memory-hogging and processor-eating bells and whistles normally used by the Vista interface?
Yeah, it occured to me when the guy said ‘Soory’.
Good stuff, though. It’s almost like they modeled that tech support guy on my husband...
I bet it was an activation-free copy too. An OS is the whole experience, from when you first turn on the machine, through use, updates and upgrades. But that’s not even the whole story. When happens from the moment you walk into the store to buy a computer (or go to the site), get it home (or get it in the mail), open the box and set it up matters too. Whether fairly or unfairly, this will reflect on the consumer’s impression.
ping
How much were they paid?
I guess the group was not forced to try out the latest version of Office. Vista is bad enough, but the redesign of the Office interface is horrible. I can’t find anything.
“I wouldn’t expect 7 year old software to work with any newer OS.”
...which party in the transaction is the biggest beneficiary?
at this point it just makes more sense to skip over Vista and go with the “windows 7”
Anything else, I don't mind upgrading because by the time I do it has jumped at least two versions from my older one.
Take NERO for example. I had NERO 6, which didn't work when I went to VISTA on one of the systems, didn't buy version 7, and now purchased version 8.
I have other software like that, and it gives me a chance to upgrade ALL the systems in the house at the same time. I do the same with the PC's. I don't upgrade everytime there is some new wiz-bang, quad-core,paralell processing, coffee-making, processor that comes out. Heck, I am still running my primary system with an Intel P4 H/T processor instead of a Dual-Core. Things are working fine, maybe I will upgrade next year.
That's the "protected content" issue, and the reason why I will never run VISTA.
If I pay for faster, more efficient hardware, I will not allow Microsoft to use most of it to make sure I am not a software pirate.
It's that simple.
Friends I have helped for years still call me for help although they know I hate Vista and will never use it.
The most common question?
Where the @&$*@&!(!#&$(%(% is Explore?
What’s UAC?
She's up a creek. Do you have any suggestions on how she might get it to work?
There are things in Vista that are really cool. I’m guessing they showed that to these people, and didn’t have them sit down and try to reconfigure a system or add network printers or work in a network with XP machines.
Nor did they have to come back three days later and use it again only to find out they have to go through half the steps again.
She should get a copy of XP and load on it.
Visduh is a problem to which XP is the solution.
User Access Control. It’s the “feature” of Vista that throws up a dialog box pretty much every time you try to access something that’s outside your user folder structure. So if you want to, say, throw some documents over in another folder, or install a program outside of Program Files(x86) or Program Files, it’ll start bombarding you with “Are you sure?” “Are you really sure?” “Are you REALLY REALLY DOUBLE EXTRA SURE WITH A CHERRY ON TOP?”
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Hard to say. But she could try a right mouse click on the executable and try to run as an administrator. Also under Vista there is a window where you can specify the exact OS and service pack to emulate. Usually if you can install the program under Vista, you can get it to run. The hard part is getting the program installed.
I’m a software developer who uses Microsoft development tools. I have liked every Microsoft OS I’ve used better than the previous one (never used Win/ME) until now.
I’ve been using Vista for around 7 months now and still hate it.
“I’ve been using Vista for 6 months now and I HATE WHAT THEY”VE DONE TO WINDOWS EXPLORER.”
Why didn’t you just set Vista Explorer to the way it runs under XP? I’ll bet you didn’t know it could do that.
Vista Explorer can be modified to display folders just about any way you want them to be displayed. You are not limited at all to the default presentation, which I admit is geared for dummies who put all their data in one place.
I set up mine to be similar to old Explorer, but with my most used directories set to the top of the list. It is really nice once you learn how to use it. The problem is that most people don’t realize that Vista Explorer can be modified. They think it is a static GUI like XP, but it is not.
And did you know that you can turn that off? It amazes me that people don’t even bother to learn how to use Vista. Probably 95% of the things that people complain about with Vista are easily turned off or modified — most with just one mouse click.
Yep—as I posted earlier, I turned it off first thing. It’s very easy to do and well worth it for users with any sort of skill and confidence around their computers IMO.
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I still can’t figure it out half the time. I eventually get where I want but I have no idea how I got there.
What I hate more than anything is when Vista tries to anticipate what I want. I know what I want. Get outta my way!
You know Vista has driven you crazy when you want to go back to DOS.
The similarities between windows users and abused spouses are amazing.
Since you all seem pretty knowledgeable about Vista (I actually like it) I am wondering if there are any security risks in turning off the UAC (the constant prompts are definitely annoying me)? And do any of you know how to tell me how to fix my settings to where everything does not open in “mini mode” by default? For instance, every time I open IE I have to zoom in to 125% or 150% just to see things at a normal size. But it won’t stay this way and I have to redo this every time. I feel like I am going blind and my new work laptop with Vista has a larger monitor. I’m sure the mini mode is user error but I don’t know how to fix it. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
OK, well I found it - duh - it’s in the same place it’s always been - “Display Settings” - I can see, I can see! :) With all the hype about Vista I guess I was expecting it to be more complicated ...
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