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'Montauk Monster' Mystery Gets More Mysterious (FOXNEWS) (NEW picture)
Fox News ^ | 8-1-08 | fox news

Posted on 08/01/2008 6:56:43 PM PDT by Terriergal

Later in the day, the three women who said they'd come across the purplish flotsam a few weeks ago showed off a second snapshot of it on a digital camera.

"It exists," Rachel Goldberg, Courtney Fruin and Jenna Hewitt asserted on local cable channel Plum TV, denying suspicions that they'd Photoshopped a picture of a dead dog.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Outdoors; Pets/Animals; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: callingartbell; cryptobiology; monster; montauk; montaukmonster; turtle
Well this definitely shows it's not a beak for all those who insisted it was...

I still can't figure out what it is. The thing that throws me is the lack of upper incisors, like a ruminant (I kept saying ungulate yesterday and for that I apologize). But that there appear to be canines like any number of animal families (things like Raccoons, felines, canines, pigs even, etc.)

I look at pig skulls and see far too much tooth development in the top to match the photos. BUT I cannot find pictues of immature swine skulls (of any breed/species).

And ARE there canines or even broken canines hidden under what flesh is still there? I dunno.

I look at the feet and am not sure I can see enough to judge whether the animal once had hooves. Decomposition or a few medical issues can cause the hooves to fall off. But I am unfamiliar with what the tissue underneath would look like at that point.

1 posted on 08/01/2008 6:56:43 PM PDT by Terriergal
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To: Terriergal
Plum TV

As in "Plum Island'?

The poor creature looks like it's been grafted together.

2 posted on 08/01/2008 7:01:26 PM PDT by syriacus (Democrats got THEIR "change" in Election 2006. Are WE better off now?)
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To: Terriergal

dog


3 posted on 08/01/2008 7:06:16 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Terriergal

So they have the animal. Why can’t the scientists who are so dismissive about it, do a DNA test on it?

The scientists just want to look at a picture and dismiss it. They have the dang animal!! Go look at it “experts”!


4 posted on 08/01/2008 7:07:34 PM PDT by autumnraine
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To: Terriergal

I know a guy who caught someone dropping off 5 raccoon carcasses in the alley behind a local Chinese Take-out.

Just thought I’d throw that in there.


5 posted on 08/01/2008 7:12:28 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Terriergal

Looks like a dog, with the nose and turbinate structures behind it missing.

The thinner flesh around the mouth is missing, exposing the lower and upper jaw bones.

I found a dog skeleton in the desert near Holser Canyon (Where Steel Challenge is), and the entire “nose structure” was missing from the Jacobsens’ Organ pits up almost to between the orbits, though the rest of the skull looked intact. Sort of similar, but mine had been baked in the sun, rather than soaked in salt water.


6 posted on 08/01/2008 7:15:51 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: Terriergal

This poor creature, is the tragic end of the first welfare recipient, after a lifetime of Government handouts.


7 posted on 08/01/2008 7:16:02 PM PDT by WhatNot
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To: Terriergal

Speculation immediately arose that it might be a hitherto unknown marine mammal, a sea turtle without its shell, an artful Photoshop creation or — cue the “ X-Files” theme — an escaped experiment from the government animal-disease research facility on Plum Island, just offshore from Montauk. ....................... Sounds like someone was reading the comments on FR?


8 posted on 08/01/2008 7:18:23 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (If everyone stays home and no one votes will Congress disappear?)
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To: autumnraine

One thing for sure: It’s a male.


9 posted on 08/01/2008 7:19:06 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Terriergal

I don’t know about the mysterious creature but there’s certainly no mystery that Plum’s Nick Leighton is very GAY!


10 posted on 08/01/2008 7:20:15 PM PDT by Caramelgal (Just a lump of organized protoplasm - braying at the stars :),)
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To: Terriergal
I'm guessing this is a viral marketing gimmick for Cloverfield II
11 posted on 08/01/2008 7:25:26 PM PDT by Carling (I'm a Typical White Person)
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To: Terriergal; aculeus; dighton; Petronski

Lispy Boy there was seriesly creepier than any alien life form.


12 posted on 08/01/2008 7:27:32 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Since sea turtles spines are attached to their shell, I tend to lean towards the escaped experiment. :oP


13 posted on 08/01/2008 7:28:44 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (Senator McCain, what did GWB promise you back in 2000? And you believed him? BWAHAAAAA!)
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http://www.newsday.com/news/columnists/ny-lijoy0801,0,5138315.column?page=1

That story says a witness says it was 2.5 to 3 feet long.


14 posted on 08/01/2008 7:35:42 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: martin_fierro

He bothered me more than the dead thing


15 posted on 08/01/2008 7:41:18 PM PDT by antivenom (Obama's parsed and lawyerly language is empty of any credible meaning...)
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To: Terriergal

It’s difficult to tell because the body likely is bloated, fur of course gone, and we have no frame of reference for size. My guess is a rabbit.


16 posted on 08/01/2008 7:52:13 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: Terriergal

Oh I take that back, hadn’t seen the photo at Fox, only the lousy video with the gay guy. The other poster is right, it’s a dog.


17 posted on 08/01/2008 7:55:34 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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To: babble-on

I kind of thought dog... but wondered where the upper front teeth all went.


18 posted on 08/01/2008 8:00:33 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: digger48

lol


19 posted on 08/01/2008 8:01:10 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: DBrow

I agree it looks like any number of mammalian skulls with the soft nose tissue missing. But what about the upper teeth? The only things I can think of with no upper teeth are most ruminants. And those, I can’t think of one that has lower canines.

I can think of a few that have long upper canines such as musk deer and chinese water deer.


20 posted on 08/01/2008 8:03:13 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Caramelgal

LOL!


21 posted on 08/01/2008 8:03:55 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: visualops

2.5 to 3 feet


22 posted on 08/01/2008 8:04:56 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: visualops

dog? I dunno about your dog but mine has teeth in the upper front of its mouth...


23 posted on 08/01/2008 8:05:39 PM PDT by Terriergal ("I am ashamed that women are so simple To offer war where they should kneel for peace," Shakespeare)
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To: Terriergal

It was a dog the first 4 times it was posted, and it is still a dog.


24 posted on 08/01/2008 8:08:45 PM PDT by wrench
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To: wrench

“It was a dog the first 4 times it was posted, and it is still a dog.”

Comb a dog, shave a dog, it’s still a dog.

;-)


25 posted on 08/01/2008 8:14:34 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Terriergal

Its the (animal) change I can believe in. This is that creatures moment.


26 posted on 08/01/2008 8:17:02 PM PDT by Lawgvr1955 (You can never have too much cowbell !!)
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To: Terriergal

I think it is dog that has been in the water for a while. The hair is gone and some sea creature has eaten the nose, leaving nothing but the facial bones.


27 posted on 08/01/2008 8:27:48 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

On the close-up of the head you can see the sockets where the teeth were on the top jaw.


28 posted on 08/01/2008 8:37:15 PM PDT by swatbuznik
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Dead Monster Washes Ashore in Montauk
GAWKER | Tue Jul 29 2008
Posted on 07/30/2008 9:39:30 AM PDT by Sopater
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2053750/posts

Alien invasion or viral blitz? (creature washes up on Long Island)
Daily Telegraph | 7-30-08 | unattributed
Posted on 07/30/2008 9:00:43 AM PDT by dynachrome
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2053724/posts

Montauk Monster: Property of the USDA?
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Posted on 07/30/2008 10:50:00 AM PDT by Perdogg
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2053785/posts

Bizarre Creature Washes Up On N.Y. Shore
WNBC | 7/31/08
Posted on 08/01/2008 12:22:49 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2055033/posts


29 posted on 08/01/2008 10:53:43 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: dragonblustar
Ping!
30 posted on 08/01/2008 10:55:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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31 posted on 08/01/2008 11:45:30 PM PDT by dragonblustar (Once abolish the God, and the government becomes the God - G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Terriergal

We have no idea what killed the animal or what post-mortem damage has occurred, but the lower jaw is very distinctive and matches that of a dog, plus the nose cavity. Also in reexamining the photos, the tail of the dog is clearly visible as well as the ears, and the legs and overall body proportions are consistent as well.


32 posted on 08/02/2008 4:27:33 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us -nature photography desktop wallpapers)
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33 posted on 08/02/2008 6:09:28 AM PDT by Daffynition (The quieter you become the more you can hear.)
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To: Daffynition

Poor dog.


34 posted on 08/02/2008 6:13:38 AM PDT by commonguymd (A de facto single party country is nigh. The partisan bickering is a mere bilking mechanism.)
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