Posted on 09/08/2008 11:04:18 AM PDT by Nomen Klatura
Because the only good Muzzl`em ... is a dead muzzl`em.
Don’t know nothin’ ‘bout no Eye-Rack.
Saddam was an itch that had to be scratched. It was going to happen. Unlike most folks here I had mixed feelings about going into Iraq, most of them against, but I held my peace, and trusted in Bush and the majority of Congress who agreed with him at the time. If you consider the yellow cake and many small amounts of WMD our reasons for going in were justified. What happened with Libya was a side benefit that made the Iraq war worthwhile. ...I watched socialist professors stir up anti war sentiment during Desert Storm, only to see complete silence when Clinton bombed the Serbs. The politically motivated hypocrisy was thick enough to cut with a knife. You can bet money on the fact that the anti war protesters wouldn’t have lifted a sign, if a Democrat had been in the White House. The anti war movement is a political weapon that was intended to be used against Bush, but like all leftist insanity, it got out of hand, and put pressure on Dem candidates. The anti war zombies aren’t worth the effort it takes to convince them different. For every sincere protester you might find, there are thousands who are in it for political motives.
"Hey he tried to kill my Dad."
George W. Bush Circa 2002.
Flame on.
The Lord willing, someday President Bush and our troops will be hailed for planting the seed of democracy in the Middle East.
Thanks for your post.
Go to different cocktail parties. Why would anyone go to a party with liberals? I’d rather stay home with my family and my cat.
Wow! No wonder I said 42 virgins! But, very funny none the less. :)
Stockpiling and developing weapons of mass destruction in contravention to the resolution he signed. (we didn't find any, but EVERYONE, including Biden and Bill Clinton, were convinced he had them)
Saddam's corruption of the food for oil program which left the average Iraqi citizen in horrible shape.
To end the oil for food program in order to help the Iraqis would have been equivalent to surrendering. Leaving them in place was destabilizing Iraq, which could have led to an Iranian takeover.
Defeating a middle eastern despot and bringing democracy to a middle eastern country would have been a big step forward in our war on terrorism.
Stockpiling and developing weapons of mass destruction in contravention to the resolution he signed. (we didn't find any, but EVERYONE, including Biden and Bill Clinton, were convinced he had them)
Saddam's corruption of the food for oil program which left the average Iraqi citizen in horrible shape.
To end the oil for food program in order to help the Iraqis would have been equivalent to surrendering. Leaving them in place was destabilizing Iraq, which could have led to an Iranian takeover.
Defeating a middle eastern despot and bringing democracy to a middle eastern country would have been a big step forward in our war on terrorism.
“And I said, Mom ..you traitorous bitch.”
I just sprayed coffee all over my keyboard.
Iraq was just one campaign in the global war against state sponsored terrorism. Add to that the continuing violations of the cease fire terms from the first gulf war (which Bill Clinton chose to largely ignore) and it wasn't only justified — it was absolutely necessary to remove Saddam Hussein.
Two sources I refer to are:
A) Public Law 107-243 Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002
and
B) Public Law 105-338 The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998
PL 107-243 justified and authorized the war. It contains an extensive paper trail, one of which was PL 105-338.
With PL 105-338, an earlier Congress and President Clinton gave their reasons for seeking regime change in Iraq, using a tribunal to try Saddam Hussein for genocide, and establishing democracy in Iraq. Though no force was authorized, this law was a belligerent act by the United States.
These acts contain many “Whereas” clauses that explain why we ultimately went to war against Saddam Hussein.
They are available through http://www.Thomas.gov. I’ve also provided links below. I had to break the link into two lines. Remove the break. This should give you a direct link to the text of the laws.
Public Law 105-338 The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/
getdoc.cgi?dbname=105_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ338.105.pdf
Public Law 107-243 Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002:
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/
getdoc.cgi?dbname=107_cong_public_laws&docid=f:publ243.107.pdf
By the way, Barack Hussein Obama now says the surge, which he would have stopped, was a great success. He still holds that we should not have gone into Iraq. If Hussein Obama had been in charge, Saddam Hussein would still be President providing a safe haven to terrorists, funding terrorism, terrorizing his own people, and pursuing WMD technology.
“The Lord willing, someday President Bush and our troops will be hailed for planting the seed of democracy in the Middle East.”
I’m pretty sure this won’t be happening. Democracy’s staying power will be measured in hours, or if we’re lucky weeks after our departure from Iraq.
Here’s an excellent video showing Democratic party politicians and their concern about Hussein’s WMD programs. They date from 1998 and 2002:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1q9Q0OtJ4g
Here’s Gore in 1992 really laying into Bush for (supposedly) ignoring Iraq’s ties to terrorism. Yet today, Democrats can’t seem to see the connection between Hussein and terrorism. (The additional youtube videos on the right look promising.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JE48XHKG64&feature=related
If it were up to Hussein Obama, Saddam Hussein would still be in office.
In summary here is why people on this thread believe that we invaded Iraq. I made a list. It may not be 100% accurate due to interpretation, or that I generalize, or error on my part, but its close. Here it is:
joke or unrelated comment- 8
joke about virgins - 3
Joke about UN - 2
racist joke - 1
seed of democracy / prevent Al Qaeda from gaining caliphate - 4
ain’t it obvious - 7
fear mongering - too much risk - Kill them all - deter terrorism - 12
No respect for, wouldn’t submit to the UN - 5
To get/kill Saddam - 4
They had NBC weapons - 6
Ties to terrorists - 9
Perhaps we should have taken a different route - 1
Failed diplomacy - 1
We didn’t know whether Iraq had/didn’t have NBC weapons - 1
bump - 4
Shooting at our planes in the no fly zone over Iraq - 2
Saddam Hussein tried to assassinate President Bush - 2
Everyone was wrong about/thought he had NBC weapons - 2
Iraq was an aggressor in the region - 1
Willingness to use NBC weapons - 2
Refusal to return foreign property, prisoners - 1
Refusal to abide with Kuwait War cease fire - 7
Iraq was sponsoring a proxy army - 1
Make an example of them - 3
To gain a presence near Iran - 1
peace - 1
Humanitarian reasons - 2
Clinton did worse - 2
It was the express desire of the US - 1
Terrorist was an Iraqi - 1
no point going after Bin Ladin without going after Saddam too - 1
Our congress supported regime change - 5
To kill muslims - 1
To prevent Iran from invading - 1
Bush Doctrine / War on Terror - 2
Even here, there is no concise agreed upon reason.
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