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Bush Doctrine!?

Posted on 09/12/2008 10:19:12 AM PDT by Care4Facts

How many of readers here, honestly, know what is Bush Doctrine. I mean, if you ask others whether preemptive attack is a part of Bush Doctrine, many will say yes. Now close book, without hint, what is Bush doctrine? I don’t think many can answer this question. I just don’t understand why Gibson likes this sort of academic questions.

Let me give you an example, use “Bush Doctrine” site:www.nytimes.com and search on google, you will only find 658 results. If you search for “President Bush” site:www.nytimes.com, you will find about 183,000 results. If this doctrine is so well-known, why it doesn’t appear more frequently?

Frankly speaking, I don’t think Palin is doing very well in this interview, but neither does Gibson.

In addition to my former example of how many times “Bush Doctrine” appears on the nytimes website and how many times “President Bush” appears. Here is another example: “Bush Doctrine” doesn’t appear on Wikipedia until Sep 11 8PM (apparently after the interview is showed on the ABC): http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bush_Doctrine&action=history


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1 posted on 09/12/2008 10:19:12 AM PDT by Care4Facts
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To: Care4Facts
I always thought it was 'if you ain't with us, your a'gin us' in terms of the WOT.

And she answered the question appropriately.

2 posted on 09/12/2008 10:20:42 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Care4Facts

well is the Bush Doctrine something the left created to name any Bush policy? or is it something REAL?

the left media annoy me to no end....these stupid trick questions. i am sure this will happen repeatedly in the debates. only to the Republican candidate.


3 posted on 09/12/2008 10:24:02 AM PDT by applpie
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To: Care4Facts

Care4facts - signed up today to post.....interesting....very interesting.

Have you ever felt the tingle of lighting bolts?

Am I IBTZ?

She did great!


4 posted on 09/12/2008 10:24:12 AM PDT by stockpirate (Be a maverick, support McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Care4Facts

I remembered what it was just because I have followed the WOT news so much. I remember what the Powell Doctrine was too.


5 posted on 09/12/2008 10:24:21 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Care4Facts

I like the FR Doctrine, where Noobs post to threads for a while before they bust loose with a Vanity on their first day.


6 posted on 09/12/2008 10:26:38 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending that the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in a suspension.)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I like the FR Doctrine,

I thought the FR Doctrine was to post without reading the thread. ;)

7 posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:38 AM PDT by dfwgator ( Go OSU, beat USC!)
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To: Care4Facts

If the central part of you subject is Iraq, Google up “flypaper theory”. It works.


8 posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:41 AM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: Care4Facts

It was a gotcha question, obviously.

If she said yes or no, they would have filled in the blanks about whichever interpretation of whatever Bush Doctrine they selected, and stuck it on her.

She was correct to tell him to define it.


9 posted on 09/12/2008 10:29:47 AM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: Care4Facts

It was shown in another thread and on another site that Charlie Gibson doesn’t agree with himself on the definition of the Bush Doctrine.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/09/what_exactly_is_the_bush_doctr.asp

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2080761/posts?page=9#9


10 posted on 09/12/2008 10:31:36 AM PDT by new cruelty (I don't want my daughters punished with obama.)
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To: Care4Facts
How many of readers here, honestly, know what is Bush Doctrine.

Simple...if there is a problem in the country, world, solar system, galaxy, or known or unknown universe, the liberals define the "Bush Doctrine" as...

It's Bush's Fault

See?

9/11: Bush's Fault

Katrina (the storm itself, btw): Bush's Fault

Global Warming: Bush's Fault

High gas prices: Bush's Fault

Supernova's in galaxies far, far away: Bush's Fault...

11 posted on 09/12/2008 10:33:41 AM PDT by NorCoGOP ((borrowed from another Freeper) "They have Obama...we have Oh! MAMA!")
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To: dfwgator

I like the FR Doctrine,

I thought the FR Doctrine was to post without reading the thread. ;)

And not check for grammer OR spelling.

All you posts belonging to us.


12 posted on 09/12/2008 10:34:17 AM PDT by stockpirate (Be a maverick, support McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: stockpirate

Yes I signed up today. But let me tell you why. I tried to publish the comments above on NYT and can’t get published (at least I didn’t see my comments published), that’s why I turn to freerepublic. I am an independent who read NYT and National Review, watch Fox and CNN. But this time, I am disgusted by the treatment of Mrs Palin from MSM.

As I said, I felt this was an unfair Gotcha question. And apparently some left wing guys just tried to update wiki to make Mrs Palin look ignorant. (The definition of Bush Doctrine doesn’t appear on wikipedia after the interview.)


13 posted on 09/12/2008 10:36:36 AM PDT by Care4Facts
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To: dfwgator
That would be the FReeper Doctrine. You can freely post without reading the article once you've been here three business years.

0:^)

14 posted on 09/12/2008 10:37:03 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending that the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in a suspension.)
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To: Care4Facts
“The Bush Doctrine” Gibson used it is left wing insider blog buzz term and not any common term....

But FR as a political web site of the right would have is posted all over it if it was the common term ...is it?

15 posted on 09/12/2008 10:37:58 AM PDT by tophat9000 (Hey Bill Maher...who's the stewardess now bitch!)
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To: Care4Facts

The “Bush Doctrine” gets the liberal anti-war idiots in a lather, but if they don’t like it, what is the alternative?

The Carter/Obama doctrine: Plead with the United Nations and wait to get hit.


16 posted on 09/12/2008 10:37:59 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Care4Facts

I agree, it was an unfair question, as were many of them. I was pleased to see her pin him down on a definition before answering. So many things have been blamed on Bush that it should be instinctive when answering questions about Bush to tally specifics.

BTW, you passed the Noob test. Congratulations!


17 posted on 09/12/2008 10:40:38 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Pretending that the Admin Moderator doesn't exist will result in a suspension.)
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To: Care4Facts

You did post some interesting information.

Welcome aboard, at this time of year we are very careful of newbie’s.


18 posted on 09/12/2008 10:41:37 AM PDT by stockpirate (Be a maverick, support McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Care4Facts

The best newbie post in a long time. The wikipedia entry was probably added by ABC after they realized that nobody knew what the “Bush Doctrine” meant.


19 posted on 09/12/2008 10:44:33 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Care4Facts
Frankly speaking, I don’t think Palin is doing very well in this interview, but neither does Gibson.

You signed up just today to post this and inform us about what you think?

Methinks you might be a troll or poser.

20 posted on 09/12/2008 10:46:36 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: applpie

There really is such a thing as the Bush Doctrine insomuch as there is such a thing as the Monroe Doctrine and its various corollaries (sorry, I am a bit of a history geek so I always like tying as much as possible back to the 18th and 19th centuries - a stupid people trick foible of my own personality).

Now what I found interesting about the question and the follow-up questions, was how little GIBSON seemed to understand the actual Bush Doctrine. Yes, he correctly identified the “pre-emptive” component of the doctrine, but he completely missed the aspects that deal with spreading democracy, preventing the spread of WMD and regime change within hostile countries. Also, as memory serves (and I could be wrong as I have an increasingly worsening case of CRS with 3 small kids contributing to massive sleep deprivation and obvious adult ADD) I believe reserving the right of the United States to act UNILATERALLY when the danger is imminent and severe is also a part of the Bush Doctrine, but Gibson didn’t mention that either.

By asking for a clarification of what aspects of the doctrine Gibson was looking for, Palin actually demonstrated a more complete understanding of the actual foreign policy doctrine of this administration since 2002.


21 posted on 09/12/2008 10:48:40 AM PDT by GodBlessAmericaKD (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Care4Facts

“Bush Doctrine” is a term created by the media. President Bush has never applied that name to it himself as far as I know.


22 posted on 09/12/2008 10:54:27 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Care4Facts
I thought the Bush Doctrine was if you are not with us you're against us along with if we think you are going to attack us we will not wait and wipe you out first.
23 posted on 09/12/2008 10:55:07 AM PDT by svcw (http://baskettastic.com/)
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To: stockpirate

stockpirate, thanks. You see, I am in NYC, and lots of my friends are telling me how terrible right wing medias like National Review and Fox News are and I will have to be an imbecile to read them. You know what? I started to like right wing medias once I started to read them. I am just tired of those condescending, biased left wing media.


24 posted on 09/12/2008 10:59:52 AM PDT by Care4Facts
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

No, I am not a troll or poser. As to why I thought Mrs Palin was not doing so well. Maybe it’s because I have a very high expectation on her and wish she could do even better than her speech at Republican Convention. I could be wrong with my judgement. But I really really want her the best, I want her to beat those MSM, I want her to show how foolish, arrogant some of those MSM people are. So that may be the reason why I am a little bit disappointed. But this is just her first show. I believe she can do way better next time and I am praying for that.


25 posted on 09/12/2008 11:01:46 AM PDT by Care4Facts
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To: Care4Facts

It’s a media-coined term that few outside of the media circle have ever heard until last night.

What do I win?


26 posted on 09/12/2008 11:02:28 AM PDT by al_c (Avoid the consequences of erudite vernacular utilized irrespective of necessity)
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To: Care4Facts
Well, if you are in fact here in good faith, then welcome aboard.

We tend to watch out for operatives and plants who suddenly appear here pretending to be someone they are not, especially at election time, just to sew seeds of rancour, manipulate discussion, and essentially cause trouble for Conservatives.

The ChiComs have an enomormous ongoing military operation that involves planting operatives on prominent U.S. political discussion boards to try and sway public opinion. Likewise, we see a lot of trolls coming over from the Democratic Underground and the Daily Kos to spread their blather too. They usually get zotted pretty quick by the mods once they are exposed.

27 posted on 09/12/2008 11:16:44 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: Care4Facts

Yeah, I honestly know what it is, but OTOH I don’t have a huge state to run and five kids to raise.


28 posted on 09/12/2008 11:20:52 AM PDT by freespirited (Obama's idea of change: from D.C. politics as usual to Chicago politics as usual.)
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To: Care4Facts

Well if you like what your reading try The Federalist Papers.


29 posted on 09/12/2008 11:21:08 AM PDT by stockpirate (Be a maverick, support McCain/Palin 2008)
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To: Care4Facts

Because it isn’t really an official policy or order, the term means different things to different people. She was smart to ask him what he meant by it. I think she answered very well.

She showed that she was thoughtful and well studied. People are saying that she was more stiff than she’s been, but how else should she be? They were serious questions on serious subjects. It would’ve been inappropriate to have been all smiley and glib and bouncy.

She did good. You can tell that because the talk has only been about delivery and not the substance of her interview. The substance was there, and unexpectedly so for the Obama camp. So they just mock.

She did good.


30 posted on 09/12/2008 11:34:31 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Care4Facts

Because it isn’t really an official policy or order, the term means different things to different people. She was smart to ask him what he meant by it. I think she answered very well.

She showed that she was thoughtful and well studied. People are saying that she was more stiff than she’s been, but how else should she be? They were serious questions on serious subjects. It would’ve been inappropriate to have been all smiley and glib and bouncy.

She did good. You can tell that because the talk has only been about delivery and not the substance of her interview. The substance was there, and unexpectedly so for the Obama camp. So they just mock.

She did good.


31 posted on 09/12/2008 11:34:36 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius

Oops.


32 posted on 09/12/2008 11:35:02 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Care4Facts

Phew, I thought I was the only one that didn’t know exactly what that was.

Time to go looking.


33 posted on 09/12/2008 11:37:27 AM PDT by thatjoeguy
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To: Care4Facts

I also do not think that many here understand it or understand its flaws.

I would suggest that they start with wikipedia, but even making such a suggestion brings vicious and hateful responses.


34 posted on 09/12/2008 11:43:07 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: Care4Facts
I don’t think Palin is doing very well in this interview

Ok, now close your google book and give us your adlib insight into "Bush Doctrine". You cant adlib all your statistics either so why be so harsh?

35 posted on 09/12/2008 11:46:40 AM PDT by SwankyC
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To: Care4Facts
Bush Doctrine

For a full explanation of the subject, please see the following link:

http://hughhewitt.townhall.com/blog/g/7656b78a-a090-4a56-9bf5-0e37bdaff80a

Also, I watched and listened to Karl Rove's discussion of the Bush Doctrine on 9/12/08. Can't recall the channel.

36 posted on 09/12/2008 11:01:25 PM PDT by IIntense (o)
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To: Care4Facts

Charles Krauthammer was evidently the first one to use that term. He has an excellent article lambasting Charlie Gibson.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/12/AR2008091202457_pf.html

Well worth the read. It is also link on Drudge.
The term has had at least four meanings over the years of the Bush Administration.


37 posted on 09/14/2008 7:19:47 AM PDT by FR_addict
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