Posted on 09/21/2008 4:30:30 PM PDT by pabianice
DISCLAIMER: the following is based upon a large birthday party in Boston for my cousin. All of us are Jewish. There were way more than 20 of us there, satisfying the requirement of the central limit theorem for statistical reliability. This took place in Boston, the East Coast capital of lunatic liberalism. All comments and conclusions are mine.
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My wife and I were at a large birthday party last night in Boston for a cousin. The talk soon turned to politics. As a conservative Jew I have become accustomed to hearing the worst sort of lies about McCain and Palin, many unrepeatable in public or to children. By the same token, comments from my family about Obama started the season as almost worshipful; Obama was the Chosen One to lead Liberalism from the wilderness while banishing the evil Bushies and their minions. What a surprise last night.
There remained one staunch Obama supporter in the group of us cousins and close friends. She will hear no complaint about Obama and says, in a loud voice, that Bush is Worse than Hitler. (How an educated Jew can say that mystifies me and tells me just how far has fallen Reform Jewery in its education, ability to think, and sense of reality). But the rest of the group was a surprise. "Jennie," a woman who had been at the forefront of the anti-U.S. movement in the late 60s and had angrily taken-down from her parents mantle my picture in Navy uniform, now confided in me that she could never vote for Obama, 'a clear racist.' She, a former fervent anti-gun agitator, astounded me with her telling, in a soft voice so as not be be overheard, that she had become an NRA member, had received her LTC, and packed a Beretta .32 in her purse nowadays. That gave me the opportunity to discuss the relative merits of the AMT Backup .380 I will not visit Boston without and that was snug in my pocket holster at the moment. I was just recovering from that conversation when a much older aunt told me that her Jewish friends in Florida had turned away from Obama, his crazy minister, his Muslim friends, and his saying that Jerusalem had to be "divided" with the homicidal Palestinians. Obama is going to have a very bad Jewish day in Florida on November 5. Then another cousin -- a lawyer and CPA -- and I talked about business, and he went on at some length about how clueless Obama and Biden are about how to help business. He was perplexed at their ignorance and socialist leanings. Two other female cousins said they couldn't support McCain but were writing-in Hillary because they couldn't vote for Obama. Still another cousin said Obama is "an empty suit" and that she will not vote for him. She may stay home but she won't vote for Obama. A cousin in from Berkeley, CA, also said she couldn't support Obama and his crypto anti-Semitism and didn't know who'd she vote for. An elderly cousin said that Obama's refusal to actually lay-out any potential policies left her confused. Finally, another older cousin told me privately that Obama and his advisers just plain scare him.
This is an unscientific but highly interesting sample of Boston Jews who should be Obama's biggest supporters. They aren't.
Interesting...I would go into a story about my WASP red-neck deer hunting bitter clinger in-laws here in central Georgia but trust me, Obama’s TOAST in Georgia.
Condi had a fatal heart attack???
North or south jersey, rural or city?
I’m about 45 minutes east of Atlanta where it’s almost all red, but I work in and around Atlanta...buckhead, Decatur...almost all blue with some real whack jobs...
you can tell...with bumper stickers like ‘Bush lied people died’ almost everywhere.
Going home from work is like leaving East Berlin.
I wouldn’t worry about one strange in law. Conservatives are not voting for Obama. Barry will not get the Republican, Reagan Democrat or Independent voters.
ooops my bad, I just noticed you said central. It’s the first time I’ve heard of such. It’s just that usually I hear north jersey and south Jersey are like two different states.
Here in California all I’ve seen is NoObama bumper stickers. I’m sure it’s different in say San Francisco but really nice to see here. No Obama signs but some McCain/Palin yard signs sprung up this weekend.
none of the Jews I know in Mass or ny have shed any of their liberal indoctrination...I’m the only one...which is why I love this forum.
Even if Mc could get more jewish vote in NY it won’t matter; same california, ma. It only matters in Florida which is so close..and maybe if Lieberman gets down their it will help w/the retirees.
Palin is too much of a “shiksa” to help.
The older Jewish may remember WWII or the holocaust, or have some allegiance to Israel
I’m sorry, but most of my co-religionists under 50 are a bunch of moonbats. They feel guilty for slavery and white racisim even though their grandparents themselves were in slave-like conditions in Europe.
Go figure?
The Jewish community is turning on Obama. We don’t need them all to make a difference in some of the states. With all the Democrats that are defecting this should be one of the most interesting elections. McCain is only down 2 in Washington and Wisconsin. Only down 4 in Oregon. Every little bit helps.
California may surprise you when the numbers come in. I’m not suggesting that McCain will win this state but there is NO enthusiasm for Obama here. Every Democrat I have spoken has said they will not vote for Obama.
Republicans are used to being called racist. That card has been played for so long we no longer care. For example; My husband works at a cable company. A black customer was disconnected for nonpayment. He cried racism, my husband laughed and said, "yeah, you're right" and then hung up. We're no longer taking part in their little paranoid charade. By the way he paid the bill the next day.
That's funny. I haven't heard that take in over 40 years. We lived in a very Jewish/Ethnic Catholic neighborhood growing up, and my mother was a Unitarian (extremely conservative though -- figure that one out.) Anyhow, when the Orthodox Rabbi who lived next door heard she was a Unitarian he asked: "Are you a Jewnitarian?" she didn't quite know how to respond to that. When she told him she'd grown up Presbyterian he explained how fashionable it was for the reformed Jews in the neighborhood to try Unitarianism for a while. They got along well; the Rabbi always kidded my mother about really being a Jew.
That's another fellow I can't figure out. Orthodox and very rightwing (perhaps Kahanist) on Israel. Yet a Hillary Democrat?
Why?
I do not want to be combative but I want to see if you understand that what your friend said is not related to the BE and should stand alone as a good talking point.
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I certainly understand what the BE was and is all about.
And no your not being combative by a long shot.
My Jewish SIL says he can not vote for Obama, not because he is black but because 0bama dissed his candidate Hillary.
Personally it does not matter what reason anyone gives for not voting Zero, just as long as they follow through with that attitude till election day.
Telling them Zero bama does not get my vote because he is incompetent does not cut it for his mind numbed supporters.
I could very well be racists in their eyes but who the heck cares as long as he is defeated.
Mark
Wish I could say the same about my state (Crazifornia)! Lots of new Obama yard/window signs up in my neighborhood. However, there are also a lot of 24/7/365 vehicle stickers that let me know my neighborhood is full of a lot of military/vet/family-of-military folks, and I’m hoping & praying a silent majority in California rises UP and votes strong for conservatism. But I’m surrounded at work & in other settings with people who’ve been unleashing the Palin-bashing, even in this short time since she’s been introduced. It’s depressing to hear the verbatim bashing-points being echoed by so many otherwise respected people (i.e. the IT dudes at my firm).
Rock On, FReeper FRiend.
Hmmmm.... Verrrrrrry Interesting.
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Condi had a fatal heart attack???
Condi's term of service will end in a few months. Her position on this issue does not reflect the consensus of Republicans.
Your sampling I’d trust more than any from the MSM.
Very interesting. Good call on the .380. :)
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