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Thoughts on the Ryder Cup
9/21/2008 | Doc Savage

Posted on 09/21/2008 7:10:07 PM PDT by Doc Savage

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1 posted on 09/21/2008 7:10:07 PM PDT by Doc Savage
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To: Doc Savage

I blame Happy Gilmore...was he playing this weekend?


2 posted on 09/21/2008 7:14:28 PM PDT by Skip Ripley
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To: Doc Savage

if it is in new york then that’s what they do.......


3 posted on 09/21/2008 7:17:12 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Mr. Smith is coming back to Washington in the name of Sarah Palin.)
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To: Doc Savage; saltnlemons
I agree with you 100%. Thank you for your contributions to a great game.

Dear salty, this will interest you :)

4 posted on 09/21/2008 7:27:16 PM PDT by tajgirvan (Sarah Palin , ................. Christian Conservatives Answer to Prayer!)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Golf Ping


5 posted on 09/21/2008 7:31:28 PM PDT by Yo-Yo
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To: Doc Savage

“some fat mentally-challenged golfer “

Sir,

The man’s name is Boo Weekly. For you to refer to his as anything other than that would indicate the you are intimately familiar with him or you are engaging in the same behavior as the people that you are criticizing.

Your points are well taken; however, the only concern that you should have is your behavior.


6 posted on 09/21/2008 7:31:47 PM PDT by burroak
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To: Doc Savage

“My grandfather taught me the game of golf. I learned the rules and etiquette of golf at an early age and have always tried to uphold the traditions and proper code of behavior I learned as a young man.”

I learned golf on my own and I believe it to be a sport intended for gentlemen and that does not mean one is rich.

Golf is a thinking man’s sport that challenges the mind and body and it has ironies like life.

One can do every thing right on a hole and still take a double bogey.

It’s a sign of the times...

The days of the great Ben Hogan, Sam Snead, Byron Nelson, Arnold Palmer, Billy Casper andi the Great Jack Nicklaus are gone.

Tiger Woods I love and he is great for the game.

I only wish he would put more emphasis on the style and grace of the game.

I Like your article and I always go for it if I get a chance.

You only live once.

““When a defining moment comes along, either you define the moment or the moment defines you.”

Tin Cup


7 posted on 09/21/2008 7:32:32 PM PDT by Lonely Are The Brave
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To: Doc Savage

I am also disgusted with the way golf audience members are behaving.
Only watched the last hour of the Ryder Cup and was amazed at the boisterous activity amongst the American team of golfers. I have watched the Ryders for year’s and I don’t remember so much hoopla from the team. I like Paul Azinger a lot but to take a victory lap was over the top.
Congrats to the USA team, they did a fine job.


8 posted on 09/21/2008 7:36:11 PM PDT by mojo114 (Tell the media to back off Sarah)
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To: Doc Savage

I hope you don’t drown in the next rainstorm since your nose is so far up in the air!


9 posted on 09/21/2008 7:38:39 PM PDT by sandpit
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To: Doc Savage
It was great Ryder Cup,I enjoyed it.

Fans never behaved like this in 1913,when Frances Ouimet won the U.S. Open,or in 1930, when Bobby Jones won the Grand Slam;)

10 posted on 09/21/2008 7:39:55 PM PDT by mdittmar ((May God watch over those who serve,and have served,to keep us free))
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To: Doc Savage

“Placing poorly educated, grossly overweight country bumpkins on the American team contrasts quite well to a superbly fit European squad.”

Absolutely. 16 1/2 to 11 1/2.


11 posted on 09/21/2008 7:39:58 PM PDT by John W (Lord Barry heal the bitter ones)
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To: Doc Savage
Have you ever attended a football [soccer] game in the UK or in Europe for that matter? The behavior of our fans pales by comparison. In Europe anything goes including racial slurs.

I watched the entire Ryder Cup and found it exciting and compelling. The fans added to [not detracted from] the event. It is time for these elitist sports like tennis and golf to become part of the real world. I have no problem with the display of nationalism. It is, after all, the American team we are rooting for.

12 posted on 09/21/2008 7:47:10 PM PDT by kabar (.)
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As you chastise the US fans, I don't recall any similar comments about the Europeans at the K-Club in 2006. I was there and their comments on our lousy performance were something to behold. Polite was not part of the experience.

Boo Weakly is a character. There are people close to the US team who think that aside from the points that he won, his greatest contribution was the fact his off beat sense of humor kept the team loose. If that helped us to a win, I am all for it.

Regarding physical fitness, I would point out that few tour players took fitness seriously until Tiger came along. I would remind you that the American with the most Ryder Cup points in history is Billy Casper and he was also never accused of being fit. I also recall another somewhat over weight young pro came on the tour in the 60’s who did quite well. Matter of fact his body shape was very similar to Boo Weakly. Do you remember a young Jack Nicklaus?

Is it Boo’s antics that bother you or his poor old Alabama country boy act that gets on your nerves? The one thing I know for sure is that he’ got game!

13 posted on 09/21/2008 8:10:51 PM PDT by JonH
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To: Doc Savage

I never understood why golfers need absolute silence to hit a ball that is standing still, while a baseball player has 50,000 fans scrwaming at him while he tries to hit a ball moving at 90+ mph.


14 posted on 09/21/2008 8:39:38 PM PDT by Raster Man
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What is this all about? Who is this guy Ryder? This is week 3 of the NFL season, people. And the whiner who wrote the article spells like a foreigner. Who cares what he thinks?


15 posted on 09/21/2008 9:38:20 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: Yo-Yo; onedoug; cincinnati65; PISANO; IonImplantGuru; Rummyfan; Aussie Dasher; 4woodenboats; ...
There are only 34 Rules Of Golf.

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16 posted on 09/22/2008 6:26:03 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: Doc Savage
riding his driver like a horse off the first tee and slapping his bulbous ass screaming 'Wahoo!"

In the words of Herm Edwards, "you play to win the game." Lee Westwood, who was Weekley's playing partner, had already indicated that he was troubled by Weekley's behavior and, in fact, seemed to be affected during Friday's play. Weekley was playing the moment to his advantage.

In John McEnroe's book, he indicated that lots of his tantrums and shouting matches on the court were staged as a way to disrupt his opponent and get them outside their comfort zone. Weekley's behavior was more of the same.

17 posted on 09/22/2008 7:12:23 AM PDT by Publius Valerius
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What's the matter, Doc? You don't like it when fans scream "in the hole!!!" right after players tee off on a 500+ yard par fives? lol...well, neither do I. These folks enjoy advertising their ignorance, it appears. Notice how you never see/hear those fools at Augusta National -- they'd be booted off the course in short order. Hecklers too, obviously.

But you're way off base on the weight/shape issue. As JonH alluded to, Nicklaus wasn't nicknamed "Fat Jack" in his early years for nothing. And Billy Casper was even fatter than Jack. Would you have kept those guys off the Ryder Cup teams in the '60s? I'd imagine not. Yet both of these legends were fatter than any "grossly overweight" (your inaccurate words) player on our '08 RC Team.

And it case it's passed your notice, the Euros have had their fair share of fat players in recent history as well. ...most notably, (RC legend) Colin Montgomerie and Darren Clarke. So don't pretend out-of-shape pro golfers are purely an American phenomenon.

I watched the European press conference and to a man they were gracious in defeat and complimented the play of the America team.

Yeah, so? American RC players were similarly gracious and respectful in defeat in '06, '04, and '02. Again, you appear to be suggesting that these qualities are possessed only by the Euros. Strange.

As for Weekly's on-course behavior, well, he's a character all right. But is Boo's riding his club down the fairway (which he only did once, incidentally) really that much different than Chi Chi Rodriquez wielding his putter like a sword after making a long putt? And Chi Chi was doing that bit in the '60s. Point is there have always been characters on the PGA tour.

....just as there have always been Stuffed Shirts.

18 posted on 09/22/2008 7:39:53 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Doc, do you remember when Sergio had that horrific outburst after making his putt on Saturday? Yelling (and I mean YELLING) "Come on, come on". I have never seen a golfer in such an "in your face" moment.

Sergio got hammered by Anthony Kim on Sunday. Kim was having so much fun thrashing the little price that Anthony did not realize he had won the match. He was on his way to the next tee to continue the thrashing. I was hoping some of the American fans would have picked up on the European chant. Something like "No way, no wayyyyyy. No way this south in Dixie."

19 posted on 09/22/2008 8:44:27 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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Yep, Sergio was screaming at the top of his lungs and the Euro fans in the crowd were singing and carrying on as if they were at a soccer match. But that of course flies in the face of the popular conception (apparently shared by Doc Savage) that European golfers and their fans are as a rule cultured, polite, and respectful. ....compared to those “drunk, boorish, boisterous, poorly educated, country bumpkin” Americans, at least.

Watching A. Kim thoroughly kick Sergio’s posterior yesterday was the highlight of the tourney for me. ....along with watching that wanker Faldo stammer, stutter, and attempt to hold back tears of grief and embarrassment in his post-tourney interview.


20 posted on 09/22/2008 12:17:34 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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