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1 posted on 09/26/2008 5:15:44 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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2 posted on 09/26/2008 5:16:28 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Yes, Pavlovian conditioning can work. It works even on human beings, proving ....... did you say it means there is no such thing as "mind"?

Well, that must be what it is.

3 posted on 09/26/2008 5:18:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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Well then, that isn’t what makes dogs and wolves different, is it?
Hey maybe it’s that dogs LOVE us!!!


4 posted on 09/26/2008 5:21:14 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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So what. Cats have trained humans. I quiver with fear every time mine gives me that evil look demanding treats NOW!


6 posted on 09/26/2008 5:27:58 PM PDT by itsthejourney (Sarah-cuda IS the right reason)
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"I think what's going on here is straightforward conditioning," he says. "Have they forgotten about Pavlov?"

Well, it has more to do with Skinner than Pavlov, but the point is made. Have they forgotten about "Clever Hans", the equine sensation who could do math problems, as long as his trainer was the one asking the questions?

7 posted on 09/26/2008 5:31:08 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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“Any idiot can tame a dog...”

Must be all smart people with the unruly dogs.


8 posted on 09/26/2008 5:31:31 PM PDT by decimon
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I’d say that 15,000 years of domestication has just dumbed down dogs. But I’ll be needing a tenured university position and a large grant to be able to prove this, ya’ know.


9 posted on 09/26/2008 5:40:49 PM PDT by elli1
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The question is, what is the relationship between dogs and wolves. There is a great deal of evidence that dogs are more closely related to the fox than to wolves. If you breed foxes in captivity they become more like dogs over time than wolves bred in captivity. Wolves don’t seem to lose their wilder instincts.


12 posted on 09/26/2008 8:00:38 PM PDT by yazoo
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14 posted on 09/27/2008 6:09:42 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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