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Have House Republicans stepped into a Democrat trap?

Posted on 09/29/2008 7:39:35 PM PDT by robert david

It is my belief that Republicans in the House have committed a major blunder by voting against today's bailout plan. They have given the Democrats a very large club to batter them with over the next six weeks before the election as the stock market crashes and the economy goes into a tailspin. It is my fear that this will lead to a Democrat landslide in the House and Senate and may even cost John McCain the presidency as Democrats and their big media cohorts blame the Republicans for the crisis.

Republican Representatives should have heeded the words of their leadership under President George Bush and Senator John McCain instead of caving to pressure from their constituents on a subject they do not fully comprehend.Today is a perfect example why the Founders of this country instituted a representative democracy instead of a direct democracy.

The failure of Congress to pass this emergency plan will also be used by the Democrats to paint a picture of Senator McCain and the President as men who are incapable of providing the leadership required to pass even the most important of legislation.

There may not be any way to save the skin of Republicans in the House who are up for reelection, but if we act now and urge our Congressman to support comprehensive economic reform, we may be able to insure the election of John McCain. Anything less, and we could very well be witnessing an Obama presidency, something our country may never recover from.


God, save our country.


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1 posted on 09/29/2008 7:39:37 PM PDT by robert david
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To: robert david

NO.

Republicans who voted for this farce will come out the winners.
DemocRATS are on tape as to their deceptions.

The market will right itself. LET IT ALONE!

NO BAILOUTS!


2 posted on 09/29/2008 7:42:14 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: robert david
How can this bill failing, and “R”’s voting against it, possibly go in favor of the O? 90% of the public opposed it!
3 posted on 09/29/2008 7:42:42 PM PDT by gidget7 (Duncan Hunter-Valley Forge Republican!)
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To: robert david

Do you even know how the voting went along party lines?


4 posted on 09/29/2008 7:42:49 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: TribalPrincess2U

scratch that last post.

NO.

Republicans who voted for NO on this farce will come out the winners.
DemocRATS are on tape as to their deceptions.

The market will right itself. LET IT ALONE!

NO BAILOUTS!


5 posted on 09/29/2008 7:43:09 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: robert david

You the same guy who called Tancredo an extremist? LOL


6 posted on 09/29/2008 7:43:25 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
"Republicans who voted for this farce will come out the winners."

Typo?

7 posted on 09/29/2008 7:43:41 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: robert david

Sorry, but the disgust I see at congress is pretty even-handed.


8 posted on 09/29/2008 7:43:48 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: robert david

“caving to pressure from their constituents on a subject they do not fully comprehend.”

Are you serious? Leave it to the “experts?”
Try again.


9 posted on 09/29/2008 7:43:48 PM PDT by aroostook war
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To: gidget7

You sure about that, latest numbers I’ve seen says about 1/3 favor it, 1/3 oppose it and 1/3 ambivalent.


10 posted on 09/29/2008 7:43:50 PM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: robert david

Will Batman face his final symphony at the hands of Shandel?


11 posted on 09/29/2008 7:44:05 PM PDT by rabidralph (Unleash your inner Palin.)
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To: Kirkwood

it’s posted on this site.


12 posted on 09/29/2008 7:44:10 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: robert david

I would say current economic events and the vote not passing today may very well lead to huge gains in the House and Senate for Democrats and an Obama landslide. I pray I am wrong but I feel this 2006 redux all over again but 10 times worse.


13 posted on 09/29/2008 7:44:15 PM PDT by jrooney (Obama's mentor says God Da*n America. That explains Obama's refusal to put his hand over his heart.)
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To: robert david
I do not agree. This bailout was opposed by the American public 2:1. The Lib philosophy has always been that the people are stupid and must be sustained by the ruling elite.

Do you buy that?

14 posted on 09/29/2008 7:44:27 PM PDT by outofstyle (There's a rake at the gates of Hell tonight)
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To: robert david

95 Dims in the House voted against this bill. Whither those Congresscritters?


15 posted on 09/29/2008 7:44:28 PM PDT by GOP_Raider (If I wanted a Chicago politician as my President, I'd vote for Richard Daley)
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To: robert david
Welcome to Free Republic.

I would add to you post, "I have been a Republican all my life, but because of the vote in the House on the Bailout Bill, I will vote for Obama and any Socialist....errr, Democrat here and ever after.."

16 posted on 09/29/2008 7:44:57 PM PDT by Tench_Coxe
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To: gorush

Yes typo, see next post.

Damn it! I hate when I get in a hurry.


17 posted on 09/29/2008 7:45:09 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (McCAIN/PALIN...THE CHANGE AMERICANS REALLY WANT—OBAMA..THE CHANGE THE WORLD'S TERRORISTS WANT)
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To: robert david

You signed on this summer and already doing a vanity the sky is falling.

Give us a break — we need a new rule — NO vanities unless you have been here for five years or more and especially no vanities in News Activism.


18 posted on 09/29/2008 7:45:25 PM PDT by PhiKapMom ( BOOMER SOONER -- VOTE FOR McCAIN/PALIN2008! LetsGetThisRight.com)
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To: robert david

Nonsense! Even Shelia Jackson Lee (D-TX) of Houston voted against it!


19 posted on 09/29/2008 7:45:39 PM PDT by avacado
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To: robert david

Many Dims voted against this for very different reasons . If the Republicans play this right , they could very well recapture the house . McCain will have to put aside the Bi-Partisan B.S. and lead the party onto victory .

If there ever was a mess tailor made for McCain , this is it . Why is he not beating this with a bat ? Newt’s idea should be applied heavily to this mess .


20 posted on 09/29/2008 7:45:39 PM PDT by Neu Pragmatist ( Register Likeminded Voters while there is still time and Donate to the NRA-PVF - Let's GOTV !)
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To: robert david
Then we must continually remind the 'Rats of the 40% of their congressional members who also voted against this big banking bailout.

Is that really so difficult?

21 posted on 09/29/2008 7:45:56 PM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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I don't think so. Everyone that if the Dems really wanted this to pass they could do it without a single Repub vote. THAT would have killed the Repubs.

Repubs are in a superior position now but only if they offer a better counter plan. Their plan could be the same except without including foreign banks, bonus limits on execs who choose to take the dough, and omitting the union pension bailout. Would probably be enough to put it over the top

22 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:05 PM PDT by Damifino (The true measure of a man is found in what he would do if he knew no one would ever find out.)
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To: robert david
I think we may be looking at the end of the Republican Party and of our country as we know it. Not just for this election cycle. Forever.

I am expecting the people to fully embrace Socialist solutions to the pending collapse of the economy -- which will of course make a terrible situation even worse.

I pray I am wrong and by some miracle our nation will reject Socialism, but it sure looks to me like we are racing down that path full speed ahead.

23 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:15 PM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: TribalPrincess2U

np, saw it after my post...glad we’re clear.


24 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:16 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: robert david

This bill needed to lose. Now we need to push a good alternative. Stop being a chicken little.


25 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:27 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Palin in 08)
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To: robert david

Are you crazy! Frank, Pelosi, Reid and all the Dem ilk were for this bill...

The Republicans just saved America today from the speedy race to Socialism!


26 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:35 PM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: gidget7

more like 60 percent opposed, but true.


27 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:39 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("Carve your name on hearts, not marble." - C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: robert david
over the next six weeks before the election as the stock market crashes and the economy goes into a tailspin.

BZZZT! False premises invalidate your posting. Thanks for playing though, and next time try to get a grip on reality first. The market will not "crash" and the economy will not "tailspin." This is a faux crisis. repeat "Faux"(that means "false" for you all in Rio Linda).

28 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:39 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: robert david

I guess you missed the part where most Americans are against this bailout and wanted the bill to fail. Having the dems painting the republicans as the cause of the failure will only help, not hinder, the republicans in the elections. McCain should get a clue and start standing with the republicans who voted against this monstrosity of a bill.


29 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:44 PM PDT by calex59
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To: robert david

You havent been listening to ordimnary common people calling into the radio etc...they see the GOP as heros and have NOT lost faith in the ability of our themselves and outr ocuntry to get through this and persevere.

At least until Thursday when I fear Grammy Stretch Pelosi will pop some valium (or be forcibly gagged) make everyone cookies and milk and change their votes...


30 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:54 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: robert david

I don’t think you could be more wrong if you tried.


31 posted on 09/29/2008 7:46:58 PM PDT by Rudder
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but if we act now and urge our Congressman to support comprehensive economic reform

um, I think that's why they voted against this legislation..... this legislation is not "comprehensive reform". So passing this legislation instead fighting for "comprehensive reform" would have sealed their fate in November, with a scathing loss......

32 posted on 09/29/2008 7:47:08 PM PDT by Fox_Mulder77
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To: robert david; All
NO, the Conservatives in the House AVOIDED a poorly laid trap by Pelosi.

See here:

Rove Hammers Pelosi on the Bailout Bill

The debacle is all hers, and this pic is worth a thousand words.


33 posted on 09/29/2008 7:47:19 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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To: robert david

We the people know the democraps caused this whole mess. dems made this rope. Let dems hang on it alone.

The republicans did the right thing. They voted down a mess that would have broken our backs.


34 posted on 09/29/2008 7:47:19 PM PDT by GloriaJane (http://www.download.com/gloriajane)
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To: pissant; robert david

Tancredo, who voted “Yes”?


35 posted on 09/29/2008 7:47:33 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: robert david
Even if the R's had voted for this bill, the DEMS with trash-talk them - i.e., Pelosi's rant that couldn't even wait until AFTER the vote.

It matters not that the libs will try to frame and defame conservatives. It only matters that conservatives FRAME THE STORY to the American people. So far, McCain hasn't done a good job of that. And, Obama is out there writing the script.

36 posted on 09/29/2008 7:47:36 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: robert david

Hell, Queen Nancy couldn’t even get all her little RAT buddies to vote for this travesty of a bill. Remember she can pass this WITHOUT any Republican votes.


37 posted on 09/29/2008 7:47:50 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Yep, the $700 billion doesn’t even exist, it’s a promise they can’t keep, bloating a National debt that’s already been a vacuum to a non-existent Social Security fund


38 posted on 09/29/2008 7:47:53 PM PDT by Son House (Palin, Has The Left Press Wailing! [MSNBC, ABC, CBS, CNN, New York Times,...])
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To: robert david
They should have voted for socialism and a massive tax increase upon the American people to save RINO McCain's worthless hide? I don't how nationalizing our financial markets is worth winning an election. There's such a thing as keeping one's soul. As Thomas More retorted in Robert Bolt's play, A Man For All Seasons.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

39 posted on 09/29/2008 7:48:08 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: avacado

Shelia voted NO? She must be holding out for the return of the ACORN giveaway clause.


40 posted on 09/29/2008 7:48:08 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: robert david

Maybe. I would prefer them to go on an all out offensive. Find a camera stand in front of it and say that Pelosi, Osbama, and Reid will ruin this country with out of control liberalism. Cite example after example of how the DEMOCRATS are truly responsible for this bad economy. Everyday, every hour, every CAMERA. Start dominating the airways.


41 posted on 09/29/2008 7:48:37 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: TribalPrincess2U

I know what it is, but the vanity poster is totally clueless. Tell him.


42 posted on 09/29/2008 7:48:56 PM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Gondring

I know. He also supported Mitt Romney when he dropped out, that darn extremist.


43 posted on 09/29/2008 7:49:12 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: robert david

on the contrary


44 posted on 09/29/2008 7:49:12 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: robert david
I think that due to this crisis and todays failed resuce, that people are beginning to "get it". I use MSNBC (yea, I know they are as blue as it gets) to see how the other side it seeing things. If you choose to join the "discussion" on their news sites, you are taken to the Newsvine website. People discussing the failed bailout are trashing the dems. Check it out: http://www.newsvine.com/_news/2008/09/29/1931003-bailout-failure-throws-banks-into-disarray
45 posted on 09/29/2008 7:49:18 PM PDT by DataDink
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To: robert david

They’ve blown it.


46 posted on 09/29/2008 7:49:30 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: robert david
urge our Congressman to support comprehensive economic reform,

Is that anything like "comprehensive immigration reform?"

get lost.

47 posted on 09/29/2008 7:49:54 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: robert david

I think it is too early to call. The market was expecting one action, even though, before the vote the market was saying that it didn’t like it but were willing to live with it. After the vote, the market will have to change directions, that, will require a little readjustment, maybe alot.


48 posted on 09/29/2008 7:50:06 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (Bolshecrat, the corrupt party of what if and whine.)
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To: robert david

Another 15 minutes, another passing thought, another vanity thread!


49 posted on 09/29/2008 7:50:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: robert david
Politicians who vote on principle may not win today, tomorrow or even in 4 years but will eventually win.
50 posted on 09/29/2008 7:50:39 PM PDT by tobyhill (fraud -noun;(1)deceit, trickery, sharp practice, or breach of confidence, (2) Obama)
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