Posted on 10/22/2008 2:34:35 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
One blogging group in particular is the PUMAs.
What would happen if a power-hungry President were to play tricks with the draft? Could he use the draft as an excuse to:
1. Use draftees for slave labor [in the name of 'civil service']?
2. Put adults from age 18 to 41 into reeducation camps?
These are the kinds of things that PUMAs and other bloggers fear.
What first fueled this concern was Michelle Obama in a California speech:
"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zone . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - uninvolved, uninformed."
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2008/05/25/michelle_obama_is_fair_game/
This is going to be our new First Lady? She's eager for her husband to force us to work [his way] and to be informed [his way]. It certainly sounds like slave labor and reeducation. What, pray tell, did her husband tell her? What other mechanism would a president Obama have than the draft itself? It sounds far fetched, but since Obama is hiding the details, what are we left to conjecture?
The clincher was Joe Biden's ominous warning:
1. A manufactured crisis within six months
2. Solutions that will cause Obama's poll ratings to plummet.
"Watch, we’re gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy.”
Here's a little more of what Biden said:
“There are gonna be a lot of you who want to go, ‘Whoa, wait a minute, yo, whoa, whoa, I don’t know about that decision’,” Biden continued. “Because if you think the decision is sound when they’re made, which I believe you will when they’re made, they’re not likely to be as popular as they are sound. Because if they’re popular, they’re probably not sound.”
That was the last straw for some PUMAs. They smell a rat. I can't blame them. Guess who said this?
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis..." -- David Rockefeller.
PUMAs are beginning to to take notice of a Obama comment on military service at Columbia: “If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.” They also noticed that Obama wants females included in the draft.
Then there was this: "I will call on a new generation of Americans to join our military.... I will expand AmeriCorps to 250,000 slots, and make that increased service a vehicle to meet national goals like providing health care and education, saving our planet and restoring our standing in the world, so that citizens see their efforts connected to a common purpose."
Here is a list of blogs trying to make sense of it all:
http://blog.hillary-clintons-voice.com/is-a-military-draft-in-obamas-future-plans-2095 http://charts.technorati.com/posts/Uv1yJsfGAG3NVKDXqZ1VRzqxd7ENSSLIEBCbsWNRip0%3D http://lgstarr.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-plans-national-draft-for-all.html http://www.rense.com/general83/obm.htm http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2008/9/15/3885185.html http://www.victoriousopposition.com/index.php/site/comments/obama-would-draft-women-send-them-into-combat/ http://prorev.com/2008/09/obama-hints-return-of-draft.html
They fear Obama having the power of the draft. Should we?
Another website has put a lot of thought in this concern: http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/1-service.htm
And guess what name pops up? Bill Ayers. Ayers shifted from terrorism to radical indoctrination of youth through education. [That's professor material in many of today's universities.]
Bill Ayers has been practicing how to radicalize students for a long time now. It's clearly a passion of his.
Maybe these dots don't connect, but more people all the time are beginning to think they do.
It depends on the crisis that triggers it. Conservatives are legendary for supporting a war effort. FDR had all kinds of socialist programs after Pearl, and conservatives endured it for the war.
Obama believes women should register for draft
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/?pageId=77875
He is pushing volunteering efforts that will offer young adults money for college tuition. All they would have to do is volunteer in a new volunteer corp that would be set up and run by Obama minded people.
So it isn't enough that out higher education system is an indoctrination system. But now students will be putting physical sweet equity into programs that will help them with there education funding...
This will shurley create a strong attachment to the liberal ideals that will be taught and preached and forced down these students throats as they are trying to help themselves...
What obama never mentions in any of his plans for voluntary service rewards is that volunteer ism is alive and well in all communities all over this country. These volunteer's encompass firefighter, EMT, sheriff, school, PTA etc.
These programs are extremely successfully in there own right. They are administered by the people who know what is best for there our own community's Why wouldn't obama want to use the existing network that is controlled and administered by the localities they serve...
The potential tragic effect of consolidating this nations volunteers can only be compared to like private organizations that are currently controlled by the left. A perfect example is ACORN and the rot that lays within our federal system.
Our volunteers who volunteer for many different reasons but now with federal oversight will surely be organized and used as a weapon. This would prove the most devastating to this country's very fabric for one very simple reason. There are volunteers in every single community, village, town, city etc. This means the agendas set forth on the national level will be administered into the local community's..... These are areas where Marxism has had a difficult time penetrating into for the obvious reasons.
Remember folks if obama god forbid he wins try’s to implement this program must be fought with every tooth and nail. It wont be easy. There will promises of bigger budget, better facility's etc as do all social Marxist programs. But as many of us know these programs are not ment to help but only to expand the agenda of the people pushing these programs. If you are a volunteer please try to articulate this to all your brethren in your volunteering community... people must be educated of the detrimental effects of these programs obama wants to anchor into our community's
Right. And what the heck did he tell Michelle Obama?
“You’ll be required to work ...” Required?
Yes, and it’s what he said at the Service Nation Forum at Columbia, part of his quote:
OBAMA QUOTE:
“I want to restore that.
But it’s also important that a president speaks to military service as an obligation not just of some, but of many. You know, I traveled, obviously, a lot over the last 19 months. And if you go to small towns, throughout the Midwest or the Southwest or the South, every town has tons of young people who are serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. That’s not always the case in other parts of the country, in more urban centers. And I think it’s important for the president to say, this is an important obligation. If we are going into war, then all of us go, not just some.” unquote.
It’s marxism...and it smells of the militants SDS Ayers/Dohrn and the followers of Karl Marx and Hitler.
Obama said even Senior Citizens would have to work and volunteer, if able.
The school districts would lose Federal Funding if they don’t make the jr high and high schools 10-19 serve 50 hrs per year...it’s so they can do mass brainwashing..
Here is the best link about this, and if you use the blue links inside this you will find massive research someone already has done, and CALIFORNIA is already using this SERVICE EDUCATION TO BRAIN WASH their students...
http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/08/1-service.htm
BIDEN COMMENT IS ALL TELLLING because OBAMA DEMS ARE GOING TO CREATE A CRISI TO MAKE THESE THINGS HAPPEN, and here is someone else quoting Rockefellar:
We are on the verge of a global transformation,” said David Rockefeller. “All we need is the right major crisis...”[12]
[Note: To understand the history and practical details of “Service Learning,” please read Serving a Greater Whole]
He didn’t say he would draft people into civil service corps. This is ridiculous. Do you honestly think that if Obama is elected he is going to institute slavery in this country, and/or lock people up in “re-education camps”, or any of the other silly stuff said around here? It may not be good for the country if he’s elected, but some of these theories are just plain loony.
I volunteer with Habitat for Humanity and we get a lot of kids through AmeriCorps. They are really good kids (or young adults, technically) and they are dedicated, responsible and want to take time in their lives to help others less fortunate. They volunteer for up to two years and are paid right around the poverty level for the area to which they are sent. Is there something wrong with expanding AmeriCorps? Are we supposed to think it is some evil organization?
In OBAMA’S HANDS it would become a propaganda teaching marxism machine..have you not seen the UTUBE VIDEOS OF THE BLACK TEENS MARCHING CHANTING ‘alpha omega Obama’??
This is NOT ABOUT VOLUNTEERING...it is about control and CHANGE FROM FREEDOM TO COMMUNISM...
ALL THESE BLOGS ARE WORRIED TOO:
http://blog.hillary-clintons-voice.com/is-a-military-draft-in-obamas-future-plans-2095
http://charts.technorati.com/posts/Uv1yJsfGAG3NVKDXqZ1VRzqxd7ENSSLIEBCbsWNRip0%3D
http://lgstarr.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-plans-national-draft-for-all.html
http://www.rense.com/general83/obm.htm
http://www.radicalleft.net/blog/_archives/2008/9/15/3885185.html
http://prorev.com/2008/09/obama-hints-return-of-draft.html
Socialism is the least of our worries, and “spreading the wealth” is only the beginning. Obama has said time and again what he is going to do...read some of it.
I haven’t heard him propose anything that would consolidate volunteers in general or give volunteers federal oversight.
Each president comes out with some type of volunteer program — remember “FreedomCorps”? They certainly don’t encompass private volunteers, and if you want to volunteer at your local animal shelter, food bank, fire department, etc., this has nothing to do with that.
It is not inconceivable. Obama idolizes Fidel and Che. The first thing Fidel did after the revolution succeeded was to draft all boys FOURTEEN YEARS OLD and up. Then send them to indoctrination camps.
Ask some of the older Miami Cubans who escaped just in time.
A very good friend of mine was at the airport with her sons, aged 13, 10, and 8, ready to board a plane for America. Her sister was there with her sons, age 14 and 10. Both mothers looked on helplessly as the fourteen-year-old was dragged away by soldiers to be taken to camp.
My friend and her boys were allowed to board the plane. They escaped. Her sister refused to leave without her older son, so she and both boys stayed behind. She never had another opportunity to escape.
Even in her 80’s, my friend grieved for the loss of her sister and nephews.
Do we want that sort of thing here?
Man, restore the draft and watch the “followers” turn on this guy.
My grandson was seriously involved with a really nice, pretty, and funny young lady who joined Americorps to get the money for college. She was sent to Arizona for two years. She came back radicalized, and a LESBIAN!
Don’t tell me that Americorps does not indoctrinate.
You are some kind of troll.
More Gov expansion.
“Applying for Federal Positions”
If you serve in AmeriCorps*VISTA, your experience can help you get hired by the federal government. When you satisfactorily complete one full year of AmeriCorps*VISTA service, you earn non-competitive eligibility for federal government jobs. This means that a federal government hiring official may hire you without having to compete with the general public provided that you meet the minimum qualifications for the job.
While 0bama worries me a lot, I don’t think this is possible. For him to force labor on the people or institute a politically motivated “draft” would result in open revolt.
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